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Nvidia ASHAMED of its current GPU lineup, cancels all reviews

https://youtu.be/4n_J7jclifM?si=Ndp-VEWuRXlOJIe_
cracking factory reset button
  05/11/25
the days of NVIDIA caring about the consumer gaming market a...
self-centered meetinghouse laser beams
  05/12/25
Google is doing fine without Nvidiashit. Apple too. I wonder...
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
Google is running NVIDIA GB200 NVL72s champ.
self-centered meetinghouse laser beams
  05/12/25
I got things mixed up. Apple did it without Nvidia, using Go...
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
Apple is behind in "AI" and Google only sells proc...
self-centered meetinghouse laser beams
  05/12/25
Apple doesn't seem "behind" in any meaningful way....
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
Apple Intelligence is a Joke https://cybernews.com/tech/ipho...
self-centered meetinghouse laser beams
  05/12/25
Oh wow an AI gives inaccurate responses? Shoulda used Nvidia...
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
It seems that TPUs provide most of their training and infere...
Buff Box Office
  05/12/25
?
self-centered meetinghouse laser beams
  05/12/25
Their nvidia GPUs are primarily for their cloud services. Ma...
Buff Box Office
  05/12/25
cr, their edge was never in hardware but in developer suppor...
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
Right. The advances in AI coding will also cause this to hap...
Buff Box Office
  05/12/25
now is the time for Intel to really flood the GPU market if ...
self-centered meetinghouse laser beams
  05/12/25
They are working on dedicated AI chips and aren't pushing GP...
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
are you talking about NPUs? they already have those in their...
self-centered meetinghouse laser beams
  05/12/25
Yeah they are going that way. No one thinks Intel chips will...
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
Yes, and that’s still using traditional models where a...
Buff Box Office
  05/12/25
tyft
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
I am blown away by even current local LLMs. Gemma 3 is great...
Buff Box Office
  05/12/25
Gemma is the only one I mess with anymore. I might do some c...
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
The two people I know who work in the biz (one at Meta) run ...
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
explainw hy it needs 64 gig ram wtf? there are only 1 billio...
Ungodly metal lodge prole
  05/12/25
You don't, 32 is fine. However some people think it's nbd to...
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
I just ordered a Core Ultra 9 285K and a 5070ti. Rate me.
self-centered meetinghouse laser beams
  05/12/25
If you got a z890 chipset you won the gen.
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25
I did but it's one of the mid-range ones, not the crazy ASUS...
self-centered meetinghouse laser beams
  05/12/25
That looks fine.
cracking factory reset button
  05/12/25


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Date: May 11th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

https://youtu.be/4n_J7jclifM?si=Ndp-VEWuRXlOJIe_

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48921540)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse laser beams

the days of NVIDIA caring about the consumer gaming market are over. it's all about AI Data Center for them now, anything else is scraps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924790)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

Google is doing fine without Nvidiashit. Apple too. I wonder how long it will take others to notice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924793)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse laser beams

Google is running NVIDIA GB200 NVL72s champ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924796)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

I got things mixed up. Apple did it without Nvidia, using Google chips:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-says-it-uses-no-nvidia-gpus-train-its-ai-models-2024-07-29/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924801)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:43 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse laser beams

Apple is behind in "AI" and Google only sells processing units through their GCP cloud platform. Not remarkable - Apple is a hardware company first and foremost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924808)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

Apple doesn't seem "behind" in any meaningful way. What opportunities do you think they're missing here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924813)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse laser beams

Apple Intelligence is a Joke https://cybernews.com/tech/iphone-users-disable-apple-intelligence/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924815)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:51 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

Oh wow an AI gives inaccurate responses? Shoulda used Nvidia I guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924835)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Buff Box Office

It seems that TPUs provide most of their training and inference capacity and that will only become more true as time goes on. Companies like Microsoft going in a similar direction is not a positive thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924818)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:48 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse laser beams

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924820)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Buff Box Office

Their nvidia GPUs are primarily for their cloud services. Major AI companies using their own chips cuts Nvidia out of the market as time goes on. They will not retain the market share they have now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924832)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

cr, their edge was never in hardware but in developer support. They could dump more money into developer support than anyone else, but it was always only a matter of time until developers started doing their own thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924836)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Buff Box Office

Right. The advances in AI coding will also cause this to happen sooner than it would otherwise. Even some of the local LLm market will likely migrate to AMD or Intel GPUs as the software improves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924854)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse laser beams

now is the time for Intel to really flood the GPU market if they want to escape Ignominy, I don't know much about their ARC shit but I hear it's ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924866)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

They are working on dedicated AI chips and aren't pushing GPUs for that purpose, although they let you run local LLMs on them now using their own proprietary software. It's not bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924877)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse laser beams

are you talking about NPUs? they already have those in their latest chips afaik.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924880)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

Yeah they are going that way. No one thinks Intel chips will be used to train models, but running local inference should be easy. I think the cloudshit is going to become less relevant as performance of local LLMs improves. You can already get models that are <1gb that run great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924885)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: Buff Box Office

Yes, and that’s still using traditional models where all the weights are in the GPU. For many specialized tasks, the model likely only needs a small amount of additional information in order to predict a particular token well. The neural networks that play particular games, for example, are quite small and could be quickly transferred from an NVME solid state drive into GPU memory if it was necessary for predicting the next token. I can imagine mixture of expert type models that retrieve from a database of thousands of expert modules based on the current context. No need for hardware with tons of memory next to the tensor cores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925085)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 6:46 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925095)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 6:51 PM
Author: Buff Box Office

I am blown away by even current local LLMs. Gemma 3 is great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925110)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

Gemma is the only one I mess with anymore. I might do some coding at some point but I have no urge to use LLMs for that rn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925113)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

The two people I know who work in the biz (one at Meta) run local LLMs on Macbooks with unified RAM. There's nothing you can buy for $5k that gives you better performance than a M4 ultra, or even the M2 ultra with 64-128gb unified RAM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48924868)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Ungodly metal lodge prole

explainw hy it needs 64 gig ram wtf? there are only 1 billion parameters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925119)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

You don't, 32 is fine. However some people think it's nbd to drop $5k on a Macbook, and the models with high capacity are in short supply so people grab them as they become available. Mac Minis are really the best value right now if you want to run M4 Max or M2 Ultra. You need at least the Max to run LLMs, and if you're getting more than 32gb you really want the Ultra

EDIT oh shit there's a M3 Ultra now. 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925124)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse laser beams

I just ordered a Core Ultra 9 285K and a 5070ti. Rate me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925151)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 7:06 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

If you got a z890 chipset you won the gen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925155)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 7:07 PM
Author: self-centered meetinghouse laser beams

I did but it's one of the mid-range ones, not the crazy ASUS "gamerz" one or whatever

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xPtLrH/msi-mpg-z890-carbon-wifi-atx-lga1851-motherboard-mpg-z890-carbon-wifi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925159)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 7:10 PM
Author: cracking factory reset button

That looks fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723631&forum_id=2#48925167)