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Date: December 22nd, 2020 8:44 AM
Author: Pearly stage

The Joys of Frivolous Sex

The pandemic has brought out a nasty puritanism.

By Megan Nolan

Ms. Nolan is a writer and critic. She is a columnist for New Statesman, where she writes about culture and politics, and the author of the forthcoming novel “Acts of Desperation.”

Dec. 22, 2020, 5:00 a.m. ET

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Credit...Amber Vittoria

LONDON — In early lockdown, I spent most evenings in the front room of my mother’s house, drunk, staring at a computer, reeling at the prospect of my body being deprived indefinitely of touch. In those days, there was a sense that all the things that make up life really might be permanently destroyed. My father, who is a playwright, speculated with sanguine acceptance that he might never see or work on another theater production. Leaving Ireland, where I grew up and where my parents live, seemed like a remote possibility, even just to return to Britain, where I am a resident.

Only weeks earlier, I was in New York for an extended visit, recently single and pleasantly crazy with the desire to date far and wide. My romantic and sexual value seemed higher then and there than it had ever been anywhere else. I thought it would suffer by comparison to all the extra special and extra beautiful people, but it turned out that mildly manic exuberance and a complete lack of interest in anything resembling commitment made up for my physical shortcomings, and I imagine my Irish accent didn’t hurt either.

I felt almost nauseated by the overwhelming knowledge of how many attractive people were out there. Even when my dates were with guys I would never see again, I usually found something in them or the evening that I would remember happily, like the one who looked fondly down at me in a hotel room and inexplicably exclaimed, “I love New York!” at the sight of my body.

And then in March came the shutdown. Because there was no way to tell if my newfound isolation was going to last five weeks or five years, I was urgently trying to recast the concept of pleasure as something that could occur without other people. I failed completely, and was even somewhat glad of this failure, the better to confirm my long-held conviction that the point of life is simply to be with other people as abundantly as possible.

I made the mistake in this period of suggesting in a Facebook post that single people, especially those living alone, could not be expected to go an unlimited amount of time without socializing or close contact. Some people reacted to this as though I had proposed an orgy on every street corner, pandemic be damned, but that wasn’t what I meant. What I meant was that human beings can’t be expected to endure the sudden and total loss of social comfort. For some people, that social comfort comes from dating or from having sex with strangers.

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But these countries seem to be exceptional. Mostly, the government here in Britain — as in many other places — pretended that sex doesn’t take place except between cohabiting couples. When public health advocates have brought themselves to allude to the existence of sex, the advice is usually unrealistic and inadequate, instructing couples who don’t live together to meet up outside and not touch. News releases from sex toy companies began filling my email inbox, advertising remote-controlled vibrators, as though the loss of physical connection was purely about missing an orgasm.

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There has been no serious effort to confront the particular challenges of what it is to be single — to be alone — in 2020. There have been no major harm-reduction initiatives, just the deluded implication that all of us who failed to partner up by March 2020 should live without meaningful connection until there is a vaccine.

The coronavirus pandemic has brought out a nasty puritanism in some people, who luxuriate in the ability to police the way others live. One doesn’t even need to actually break a rule to earn their disgust, only to express dismay over things they consider unimportant or, worse, hedonistic. To even complain about what it feels like to live alone and not be able to date right now is regarded as unseemly, dismissed as trivial. After all, some haven’t been able to visit vulnerable elderly relatives all year. Couples have it hard too, with many working from home in cramped quarters — not to mention those living with small children.

The complaints of a single person don’t begrudge or contradict the pain of the harangued parent or the anguished daughter missing her sick father. Our struggles are not undermined if society also concedes that there are people who once got substantial meaning from interacting in ways that are now impossible — through dating or casual sex. We are also going through something painful, without even the socially approved validity of the nuclear unit to back us up.

Most of society does not really believe that casual, nonmonogamous encounters can actually hold meaning, rather than simply serve as crude ways to blow off steam. I know that they can. Living as a purposefully single and promiscuous person was one way to know others, one way to find joy in the world, and it’s gone for now. Single people have lost something important, and should be allowed to bemoan it. I don’t have to want children to sympathize with families; you don’t have to share my priority to accept its validity in my life. There are not a finite number of ways to have felt pain this year.

A friend asked me a few months ago whether I didn’t perhaps regret having ended a long-term relationship in early 2020, at such a particularly bad time in history to choose to be alone. I won’t pretend it didn’t cross my mind that life would have most likely been far more pleasant if I had been with my ex during the worst of lockdown. Not only would it have been good to have company in general, but I also missed him, specifically. I loved him; I still love him, which does not mean that it made me happy to be in our relationship.

I left because I identified that my desires and needs were not being best served by monogamy. This would have been impossible in my earlier life, when I was crippled by need, leaking out of me onto every passing man who looked like he could fill a boyfriend-shaped gap in my life. Back then, I could no more have turned down the offer of companionship and love than I could water and air.

Now, I need differently. I need very little from individuals, but I am greedy for the world. And why not? Why shouldn’t I be? It’s a reasonable and good-natured greed, one fueled not by desperation but by a tremendous love of the world and the people in it. How could I be ashamed of that? That this impulse was thwarted in 2020 does not make it a malign one.

Some single people are not living in constant wait for the relief of a marriage to put them out of their misery. The restrictions of this year happened to suit couples and families best, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us were getting life wrong.

As we move into 2021, I know now more than ever that I was right to do what was best for me. I won’t be pretending that I want things that I don’t for the sake of temporary comfort. I’ll be waiting until the life I do want — trashy, frivolous and shallow as it might seem to some — is possible again.

Megan Nolan (@mmegannnolan) is a writer and critic. She is a columnist for New Statesman, where she writes about culture and politics, and the author of the forthcoming novel “Acts of Desperation.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/opinion/sex-relationships-covid.html

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:58 AM
Author: territorial lay

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:01 AM
Author: Poppy hall

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:09 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:05 AM
Author: gaped excitant son of senegal set

Damn lockdowns done a number on Michel Houellebecq

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:46 AM
Author: sticky theatre becky

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:44 PM
Author: hyperventilating box office

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:17 PM
Author: impressive multi-colored cumskin home

She looks very healthy. I wonder how the lockdowns have affected her diet and exercise regimen.

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:44 PM
Author: hyperventilating box office

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 8:51 AM
Author: Sable stirring messiness national

Now, I need differently. I need very little from individuals, but I am greedy for the world. And why not? Why shouldn’t I be? It’s a reasonable and good-natured greed, one fueled not by desperation but by a tremendous love of the world and the people in it. How could I be ashamed of that? That this impulse was thwarted in 2020 does not make it a malign one.

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 8:56 AM
Author: Orange aggressive cuckold

I especially loved the part where she says she still loves her ex but not the relationship they had. Legit schizo world view -- just do dump the people you love because the relationship takes work. If only her mother had thought like that we'd be one filicide better off as a society. But really the whole article is a perfect example of why women shouldnt run anything -- they are batshit illogical.

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 8:56 AM
Author: autistic pearl meetinghouse

I think this is what happens when you have no discernible religion

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 8:57 AM
Author: Orange aggressive cuckold

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:53 PM
Author: Henna self-centered love of her life



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:04 AM
Author: Pearly stage

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Mass

3h ago

Thank you for giving voice to my desires regarding sex and relationships. I’m tired of feeling the need to profess an interest in the same things other people do for the sake of...what? Moral propriety? The solidarity of shared values? Other people’s comfort? If I found someone I wanted to be exclusive with, great. But that’s not an item on my to do list or emptiness in my life. I love men and I love having sex with them and I miss it so much right now, but, for me, those don’t need to lead to commitment and exclusivity.

I also want to comment how gorgeously written this is, content aside. Brava.

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Alan R Brock commented 2 hours ago

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Alan R Brock

Richmond VA

2h ago

''Some people are not living in constant wait for the relief of a marriage to put them out of their misery.''

This point is essential and too often missed. There are more than a few of us out there who prefer to remain unwedded.

Also, I see so many couples who, in my unspoken opinion, ''settled'' for the best deal they could find at the point they determined that they just had to get married. I don't envy them. Not at all.

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Ontario, Canada

3h ago

The term "nasty puritanism" is absolutely brilliant! There's a lot of SNL-style "Church Ladies" (and men) out there, desperately in need of some introspection as to the source of their own unhappiness, which they are all too quick to share- in the form of judgement. Best wishes and thanks to the author.

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:07 AM
Author: Pearly stage

SeñorWenceslaus

Chicago

2h ago

Next year is my 50-year celebration of being single. It's been a joy remaining uncoupled. There were compromises, sure, and it's not for the weak-willed or dependent types.

The only real problem is that society treats us rather shabbily and gives unfair economic breaks to heteronormative couples on the breeding program.

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Buoy Duncan commented 3 hours ago

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Dunedin, Florida

3h ago

It is as good a time now as any, to stop pretending that being single is a dimension of marital status we every one of us long to escape from. Not so. Being in a long term relationship right now carries the danger of actually compounding the loneliness of this moment, not for all but certainly for some!

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John commented 2 hours ago

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Lancaster PA

2h ago

The author expresses beautifully, but indirectly, a plea for the end of the social pressure to establish long term monogamous relationships. She quite rightly recognizes that monogamy is not ideal for many people. Queer people, particularly men, who were legally excluded from socially sanctioned monogamous relationships (marriage) until quite recently, have long known this and many have built happy long-term relationships without any expectation of sexual fidelity. Sex can have many meanings, but sometimes sex is just sex. What makes this column unusual is that it is a frank admission of this by a heterosexual woman, for whom social pressure to buy in to the marriage-monogamy=happiness equation remains the greatest.

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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:20 PM
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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:16 AM
Author: big-titted quadroon

Tl;dr. The thing about these "columnists" at august mags and ezines nobody has heard of and even fewer people read is that the couple hundred or thousand extremely online libs are the same group who read all of them. So you see these opinions poasted in nyt from some lady you've never heard of from a fancy sounding blog, and you think she must be on the cutting edge of social theory or whatever. But it's all just the lib echo chamber.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41595784)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:54 AM
Author: territorial lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41595991)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:14 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596865)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 1:27 PM
Author: Useless Sandwich

(Guy assuring us in 2012 critical race theory would never jump from college campuses to broader society)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41597390)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:16 AM
Author: Tan parlor cuck

NYT shifting to its Christmas tone I see

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41595785)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 11:12 AM
Author: passionate free-loading partner range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596500)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:30 AM
Author: Spruce Party Of The First Part

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFEuUVunzJu/

Indeed, who could resist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41595839)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:31 AM
Author: aromatic private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41595849)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:36 AM
Author: anal big locus

They literally always look like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41595884)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:11 AM
Author: Soul-stirring crawly space legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596117)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:42 AM
Author: Poppy hall

I thought this was going to be some high-T tall skinny bitch.

LOL

O

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41595904)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:55 AM
Author: Curious insane generalized bond library

lol terrible read imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596399)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:17 AM
Author: Heady Effete Pocket Flask Temple

Now imagine the guy who, hooking up with her, looked at her body, and said "I love New York!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596161)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:21 AM
Author: Frozen bronze genital piercing

it's like she intentionally dresses awful. she could be a binary 1 if she dressed normally:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_atoAXHecO/

https://www.instagram.com/p/B71WOkhHBZm/

the problem is her playing frumpy hipster schtick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596191)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:25 AM
Author: aphrodisiac onyx house boltzmann

"I LOVE NEW YORK" bellowed the sr associate, as he unclothed the 4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596212)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:56 AM
Author: Curious insane generalized bond library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596401)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:58 AM
Author: Slippery Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596422)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:59 AM
Author: Rusted bearded sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596432)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 11:46 AM
Author: Spruce Party Of The First Part

"I deserve this - I'm a Harlan Fiske Stone scholar."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596692)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:12 PM
Author: Rebellious stain immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596855)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:14 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596869)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:15 PM
Author: Bull headed canary indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596876)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:15 PM
Author: anal big locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596883)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 1:28 PM
Author: Useless Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41597392)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:43 PM
Author: hyperventilating box office

was the guy blind?

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/c726ee04ec052283dce9e479ab6cfbf01c7ece27/159_586_4492_2695/master/4492.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=e129fa4ed983f1a479d73b257dd2d0a8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600716)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:30 AM
Author: Wonderful amber spot

Your comment makes me think of that flashback scene in Mad Men when the guy who runs the whorehouse sends the moralizing preacher away and says You're just mad 'cause your dick doesn't work any more!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596239)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:59 AM
Author: Rusted bearded sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596429)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 11:15 AM
Author: unhinged university

Holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596525)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:07 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino

in fact, before even reading the article, the first thing I did was search her name in Google images to poast; I see I've been beaten to it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596816)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 8:10 PM
Author: Jet Cracking Famous Landscape Painting Indirect Expression

read this as: "I see I've beaten to it"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41599842)



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Date: December 24th, 2020 4:07 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41611203)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 1:01 PM
Author: impressive multi-colored cumskin home

Not I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41597214)



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Date: December 24th, 2020 11:18 AM
Author: Spruce Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41609570)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:45 AM
Author: tripping fortuitous meteor

Criteria to be published in NYT:

1. Bipolar/manic

2. Woman/indeterminate mud

3. Hate all things pure in the world such as religion/family

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41595927)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: Apoplectic trip pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596635)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 1:23 PM
Author: primrose hunting ground

To be fair, sex sells.

No one wants to read about well-adjusted got families.

Not defending it but their existence is predicated upon publishing smut like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41597363)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:56 AM
Author: Blue skinny woman address

Of course there’s a link why wouldn’t there be a link



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596004)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:57 AM
Author: Milky Electric Furnace

Did GJR write this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596009)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:36 AM
Author: Abnormal sapphire institution

nothing in the article about being anal-only

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596282)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:28 PM
Author: Comical chrome trust fund

you people are disgusting liars— have never done “that” and never will.

this article was pure cringe btw. seems like she was just trying to justify to herself why having random sex in nyc is good for a person when it’s obviously not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596997)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:59 AM
Author: brilliant laser beams feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596024)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:01 AM
Author: territorial lay

no doy, but do I want to read a LONG essay about it? Should anyone want to read a long essay about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596048)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:31 AM
Author: aromatic private investor

this but non-ironically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596245)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:03 AM
Author: Adventurous mediation locale

classic bumble five

there are so many of these

ruthless sodomy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596060)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:20 AM
Author: Orange aggressive cuckold

This is way worse than a Bumble 5.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596179)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:29 AM
Author: Adventurous mediation locale

Maybe a 4.5, as 4 is more defensible than 6.

with respect, however, I disagree

this chick is thoroughly average in every way

I banged a less annoying version of her in a different east coast city for a few weeks

as 5 as the day is long

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596232)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:18 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino

5 is not average or median though; average these days is about a 3.5 or a 4. Attractiveness is an exponential curve that has a high correlation to rarity, made worse by the fact that 60% of the population are obese or just ugly and dygenic.

She's a 3.5.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596906)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:20 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596923)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:31 AM
Author: walnut base boistinker

Not having any experience with Bumble, I would love to see an example of a "bumble one", which is exactly how I would rate this chick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596248)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:33 AM
Author: Adventurous mediation locale

I promise that

(1) you don’t really want to see that

(2) they exist; they are real; they are spectacular

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596257)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:23 AM
Author: Frozen bronze genital piercing

>>My romantic and sexual value seemed higher then and there than it had ever been anywhere else.

this is classic birdbrain female logic. no, your sexual value isn't high if app guys are lining up to pump and dump you. any girl with a vagina can get pumped and dumped every single night of the week with ease.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596201)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 11:49 AM
Author: wine swashbuckling orchestra pit juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596718)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:01 PM
Author: histrionic menage knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596785)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:33 AM
Author: Wonderful amber spot

XO: Lockdowns and frigid shrews suck!

Also XO: How dare this chick turn the NYT's message even one degree away from Lockdowns Uber Alles and say that she wants sex!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596258)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:39 AM
Author: aromatic private investor

shut up you stupid whore

men are speaking. MANLY men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596314)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:40 AM
Author: territorial lay

I don't want to read about some ugly Irishwoman's love of sex. I agree that she has a point -- the lockdowns really must suck for single people living in big cities. Loneliness, particularly this time of year, must be crushing. I also agree that this loneliness could involve a denial of one's desire for basic human contact. Again, though, there are better ways of communicating that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596318)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:44 AM
Author: histrionic menage knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596348)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:44 AM
Author: Wonderful amber spot

Lol. She's not ugly. That chick, while not a 9 or whatever, is reasonably cute, and every dude ITT would take a shot at her if he saw her drinking alone at a bar. It's deeply unsettling to a lot of guys when a non-disgusting female is open about wanting sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596349)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:46 AM
Author: territorial lay

uh, to the extent it is disturbing it is because it is the cultural norm now, not that it is SO CRAZY. There is absolutely no shortage of single women proclaiming how much they love sex in all sorts of media... but there should be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596357)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:52 AM
Author: Wonderful amber spot

Well at least you're backing off the ugly comment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596384)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:54 AM
Author: territorial lay

I'll give you this, it depends on the pic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596395)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:54 AM
Author: Abnormal sapphire institution

she's beat man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596396)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 11:01 AM
Author: aromatic private investor

she looks really gross and frumpy in some pictures, decent in others. All in probably a binary 1, objective 5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596440)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:23 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino

max I'd go is a 4, and that's in her best pic, not linked yet: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CctPhxjWAAEjJbR.jpg

her worst pic in this thread is a 2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596954)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:22 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino

fuck no, she's not cute and enough of these 3.5s at a bar would immediately be reason to leave

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596944)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:31 PM
Author: Rebellious stain immigrant

cr hegemon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41597023)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:21 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino

how the fuck do you think this criticism is directed at her breaking lockdown, and not just at her being a ho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596935)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:08 PM
Author: Wonderful amber spot

The point of ending the lockdowns is social interaction and, ultimately, sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600207)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:11 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino

(guy who thinks social interaction that doesn't end in sex is meaningless)

have you ever had friends you weren't trying to fuck? (I'd ask about male friends but that may not make my point)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600220)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:11 PM
Author: disturbing razzle internal respiration potus

CR. I honestly thought this piece was insightful. Being single sucks rn and you don't hear about it from establishment sources because they're all married people

EDIT: I mean, I get that it's funny that she's like I want to be free enjoy non-monogamy. Would've been more trad if she just argued like I wish dating could be normal rn. There are a ton of health professionals who say shit like "I wouldn't feel comfortable going on a first date at this time"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600223)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 11:14 AM
Author: passionate free-loading partner range

XO memes colliding

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCk9Y6-HYsW/?igshid=qi6vp07vtnb4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596514)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 11:55 AM
Author: bisexual sickened business firm goal in life

I was hoping to see her peeling potatoes for an Asian man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596750)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 11:41 AM
Author: Umber Goyim Station

This is the inevitable result of liberalism. Not surprising. Sad though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596672)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 12:24 PM
Author: jade disrespectful casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41596963)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:02 PM
Author: disturbing razzle internal respiration potus

Gloria Anders

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Times Pick

It all depends on your attitude. My daughter, age 22, told me she frequently encounters attractive runners when she's out for a run. Often, they duck off-trail and have a quickie. Relieves the stress! Life is too short and youth fades very, very quickly. Live while you're alive!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600172)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:18 PM
Author: maroon contagious philosopher-king

I can't decide what's more disgusting -- banging randos in the bushes or bragging to your mom about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600263)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:19 PM
Author: disturbing razzle internal respiration potus

cr. or the mom taking pride in it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600267)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:18 PM
Author: pontificating fantasy-prone property pozpig

Times Pick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600583)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:19 PM
Author: pontificating fantasy-prone property pozpig

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The homosexualization of heterosexual relationships

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600588)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 9:17 PM
Author: Light Nighttime Incel

Broadly speaking, I don't have much objection to that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600257)



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Date: December 22nd, 2020 10:37 PM
Author: impertinent spectacular organic girlfriend associate

I actually didn't find most of the premises of this article or the way they were presented objectionable, up until the birdbrain logic about her boyfriend at the end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4718267&forum_id=2#41600678)