but it obviously doesn't matter. james bond is badass/smooth/sauve/a lady's man, but there is absolutely nothing about his whiteness that matters to his character

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973372)

i guess shitlibs get angrier about getting race wrong like white actors playing hispanic characters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973495)

If the newest 007 films weren't emphasizing realism I'd agree with you.

They specifically casted a plain looking Scottish dude of average height/looks because that's what Bond was intended to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973397)

But everyone admits the Brosnan 007 films were unrealistic pieces of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973411)

most people think brosnan was a very good bond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973413)

The last movie was batman & Robin level bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973417)

tell me more about how realistic Dr. No was lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973422)

I said that the recent Craig films put an emphasis on realism the same way the Nolan Batman films did.

The latest film made a habit of mocking the campier aspects of the series- the joke about exploding pens, equipping bond with only a gun and a 50's era radio, having the villain be a hacker, the main showdown being in a Scottish castle, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973431)

- bond films are realistic

- actors who play bond are plain-looking

both of those are so fucking clearly false that it's impossible for anyone else to even imagine what sort of shit is going through your head right now. are your synapses just firing cum at each other instead of electrical charges? get ur fucking shinebox brother. cya.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973439)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973440)

underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973646)

But....

Bond is important in that he is one of the tiny number of characters who embodies western imperialism and is still a good guy. Bond is important because he's one of the few examples of white, western men keeping the world safe and slaying international pussy in the name of noblesse oblige.

Making bond black does not hurt bond. But it does signal the death of a great character archetype, and for that reason I think people have some credible reservations.

I don't think anyone would be upset if Idris played Jason Borne, for example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973402)

Look at Zeus for instance. He's been portrayed with that lightning bolt so many times that he's kind of not Zeus anymore without it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973418)

As for the lightning bolt, how is Zeus objectively shittier without it? Maybe a god that doesn't have a lightning bolt is better because he's just as powerful without needing to rely on a prop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973528)

I wonder how many of them would be the same people who are now complaining about black Bond.

"As for the lightning bolt, how is Zeus objectively shittier without it? Maybe a god that doesn't have a lightning bolt is better because he's just as powerful without needing to rely on a prop."

LOL at denying the existence of lightning privilege

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973535)

Casting James Bond as black is not black culture appropriating James Bond. It's multiculti/globalist/shitlib culture appropriating white/British culture.

The only reason that you would think that this is somehow less important than white culture appropriating black culture is if you are racist against white people, and don't see the destruction of ethnic white nations as a problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973450)

fixed that up for ya.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26993161)

Hey let's turn on them and go for the Shitlib audience!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973441)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973452)

Explain what you mean by this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973523)

In this particular case, I am not against Idris Elba as James Bond, but I do think that it's is problematic that the international media is poised to incrementally erase what little remains of white culture. And this isn't ja black/white issue. This is a shitlib/normal person issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973566)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26973539)

And anyway, everyone thought making the president black in every movie would be good for America and diversity but it got us Obama and his deranged racist wife

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26974180)

The James Bond of the past is an English, scotch-drinking, smooth-talking, brilliant, educated, tough-minded, cool-headed secret agent who can pass through the corridors of power and the elite criminal underground undetected and unstirred.

Maybe a few such white men exist. That's what makes James Bond such a special character. We can see him being the greater perfection of every adolescent fantasy that white boys have about being awesome.

No such black man exists, at all. Not only does he not exist, he's literally unthinkable. I mean you can Carlton Banks the fuck out of this, but he will never have the kind of access, the ease of travel between and amongst different cultures a white James Bond has.

It's fine, whatever. Make the movie, it'll probably be fine. Elba, as about the biggest ho-ho in the world, will make the best possible black Bond.

But it is no longer James Bond. It's James Brown, the try-hard success story from the ghetto who tries to use his native smarts from the mean streets of Baltimore that he charmed his Harvard classmates with with a Chinese mafia boss at the Hotel de Paris, and when it inevitably fails he pulls a "sheeit" and starts pistol-whippin' niggas. That's the new Bond. Entirely up to the public whether or not they want that, but that's the new Bond. Writing him white would be preposterous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26974413)

you da old bond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26974498)

http://www.eonline.com/news/609262/rush-limbaugh-says-idris-elba-can-t-play-james-bond-because-he-s-black-and-then-admits-he-s-racist

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Rush Limbaugh Says Idris Elba Can't Play James Bond Because He's Black and Then Admits He's Racist

by Lily Harrison Today 11:35 AM PST

Idris Elba, Rush Limbaugh Jon Kopaloff/FilmMagic; Justin Lubin/NBCU Photo Bank

Daniel Craig may still be our James Bond, for now, but it looks like there are already a lot of opinions swirling over who should play the character next.

After emails were leaked between Sony execs eyeing Idris Elba for the film franchise, Rush Limbaugh offered his two (offensive) cents on the matter.

During his news program, the controversial commentator expressed his concern over the Avengers: Age of Ultron star stepping into the Bond role.

"James Bond is a total concept put together by Ian Fleming. He was white and Scottish. Period. That is who James Bond is," Limbaugh said.

"But now [they are] suggesting that the next James Bond should be Idris Elba, a black Briton, rather than a white from Scotland. But that's not who James Bond is."

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And as if that wasn't bad enough…Limbaugh finished up his rant with an alarmingly self-aware thought.

"I know it's racist to probably point this out."

Elba's spoken out about the rumors that he's on the short list to play Bond in the past.

During a Reddit AMA, when asked if he would take the role, he shared, "Yes, if it was offered to me, absolutely."

And in an interview with NPR, Elba opened up about the casting rumors and his concerns over how he'd be perceived.

"I just don't want to be called the first black James Bond. Do you understand what I'm saying? Sean Connery wasn't the Scottish James Bond and Daniel Craig wasn't the blue-eyed James Bond. So if I played him, I don't want to be called the black James Bond."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26993127)

limbaugh has a dumb argument because roger moore was extremely english and not scottish. as the other guy said only sean connery was scottish

of course when he says 'i know it's racist' he doesn't really mean that. he means he knows he's going to be called racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#26993147)

Pierce Brosnan, who played spy in four films, gives his opinion as speculation grows about Elba taking over role when Daniel Craig eventually bows out

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Idris Elba has repeatedly dismissed rumours that he will be the next James Bond. Photograph: Gisela Schober/Getty Images for Jaguar

Hannah Ellis-Petersen and Jacob Montgomery

Monday 16 February 2015 19.01 EST Last modified on Monday 16 February 2015 19.05 EST

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He is the favoured choice by everyone from Jamie Foxx to Kanye West to step into the debonair shoes of 007. But Idris Elba may have got his most weighty endorsement so far – from a former Bond no less.

In an interview with the Radio Times, Pierce Brosnan, who played the fictional M16 spy in four films between 1994 and 2002, was asked whether he thought Elba would make a good Bond. Responding succinctly, Brosnan said: “Yeah, he would actually.”

Elba has been a championed contender to take over the role when Daniel Craig, 46, eventually steps aside.

But the 42-year-old actor, best known for television roles in The Wire and Luther, and for his portrayal of Nelson Mandela, originally dismissed the speculation, telling ITV’s Lorraine show earlier last year that it was “a rumour that’s gotten out of control, basically, but that’s all it is. There’s no truth in it whatsoever”.

However, the rumour mill was reignited last September when the London-born actor responded to a fan’s question on Reddit about whether he would be willing to take the role, writing: “Yes, if it was offered to me, absolutely.”

In November, the large cache of hacked Sony Pictures’ emails also revealed that the film studios saw Elba as an ideal successor to Craig, with then co-chair Amy Pascal reportedly sending an email that read: “Idris should be the next Bond.” However, Sony have since refused to confirm any future casting for Bond.

Elba initially remained quiet on the subject but later tweeted a picture of himself with the caption “Isn’t 007 supposed to [be] handsome? Glad you think I’ve got a shot!”

The actor, who also moonlights as a DJ and musician, is now establishing himself as firm favourite to take over from Craig, who is only committed to one more Bond film after he finishes filming the next outing of the franchise, Spectre. In an interview with Rolling Stone magazine before the release of the previous film, Skyfall, Craig made it clear he is keen to be released from the shackles of Bond.

“I’ve been trying to get out of this from the very moment I got into it,” he said. “But they won’t let me go, and I’ve agreed to do a couple more, but let’s see how this one does.”

A YouGov poll, conducted in December, revealed that Elba was the frontrunner for the Bond job among the US public. Even West has given his support for the actor to take on the role, telling the Sun: “James Bond is a role made for British actors and you won’t find a British actor who has the talent of Idris … A black Bond would be visionary no doubt.”

But Elba has repeatedly said he would not want his decision to take on the role to be defined by race.

“I’ve always detested the phrase ‘black Bond’, I just don’t understand it,” he said in his 2014 interview on Lorraine. “We don’t say ‘white Bond’, we just say ‘Bond’ so it suddenly becomes a black man and he’s a ‘black Bond’ so I hate that phrase.”

In an interview with US broadcaster NPR in 2011, he said: “Sean Connery wasn’t the Scottish James Bond and Daniel Craig wasn’t the blue-eyed James Bond, so if I played him, I don’t want to be called the black James Bond.”

Some have argued that casting a black actor would conflict with the fictional ancestry written by Ian Fleming, Bond’s creator. But Fleming is believed to have added the detail about the spy’s mother being born in Switzerland and his father being from Scotland after Sean Connery’s performance in the first film, Dr No.

In December, Rush Limbaugh dismissed Elba as a potential successor to Chester-born Craig because Bond is supposed to be “white and Scottish”.

That view prompted a sharp response from the daughter of Harry Saltzman, producer of the films. “That would be a fair argument if there were no black Scots,” she recently told Wilson Media. “They do exist and have become an important, if not intractable, part of Scottish history.”

“James Bond is fiction. There are far more important realities about the treatment of ethnic minorities … that would show some progress if we spent half the time discussing them as we have a black 007.”

In the interview with the Radio Times, Brosnan also re-emphasised his support for another black actor, Colin Salmon, who he first gave his backing to be the next Bond in 2013. Salmon has previously starred in the Bond films as Charles Robinson, M’s chief of staff, but has yet to state his willingness to take on the lead role.

“May the best man get the job and may Daniel bring home the bacon for as long as he wants,” Brosnan told the Radio Times.

Spectre, which is cbeing shot across London, Rome, Mexico City, Morocco and the Alps, will see Craig joined by a cast including Monica Bellucci, Lea Seydoux and Christoph Waltz, with Ben Wishaw and Naomie Harris reprising their roles as Q and Moneypenny respectively. The film is scheduled for release on 6 November.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/feb/17/idris-elba-good-james-bond-007-pierce-brosnan-film-daniel-craig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#27346311)

lol, jfc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2762820&forum_id=2#27346386)