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dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
How much did you make last year?
Dun Indecent Meetinghouse Coldplay Fan
  05/29/12
A little more than $200 K. However, some of that was doing ...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
does it bother you that you profit from misery?
Electric Honey-headed Keepsake Machete Community Account
  05/29/12
Yes. Hypothetically speaking, imagine if you had an adult...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
cot damn how do you not even killself at all?
Electric Honey-headed Keepsake Machete Community Account
  05/29/12
I recently had a client commit suicide too.
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
christ
Electric Honey-headed Keepsake Machete Community Account
  05/29/12
wow. so happy I do biglaw when I think of this misery. Do yo...
Fragrant green kitty reading party
  05/29/12
Poli Sci
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
So it's a win-win (TMF)
avocado becky hominid
  05/30/12
Least significant possession you witnessed a couple fight ov...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
There was a tacky mug set (couldn't have been more than $10 ...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
lol mugs.
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
Strangest reason for a divorce? Worst story of infidelity? ...
Coral goyim
  05/29/12
1. They're actually pretty common, but I find emotional neg...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
How strongly do you feel about divorce yourself? If you were...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
I would not get married. Most of the benefits can be found ...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
I think this is fair. While I think it's not a terrible i...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
I don't plan to have children, but as a man, I'd take zero c...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
Would an unmarried couple just seek mediation in the event o...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
If the couple had children, sure. You'd probably want some ...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
Have you ever had a case that was so amicable it creeped you...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
Not really. It's usually a relief when people can be civil ...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
In cases where there is domestic violence, does that definit...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
No. There's a high probability, but there can be exceptions...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
What percent of cases you've worked on have involved private...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
Maybe 5%. I know some firms use these tactics more aggressi...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
Did you like the movie Intolerable Cruelty?
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
Never watched it.
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
George Clooney = smarmy divorce attorney with epic, patented...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
lol I might have to see that.
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
Are your friends allowed to retain your business or is that ...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/29/12
It depends. In most cases, I'd advise against it, especiall...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
I feel differently from my divorce. I feel there is no prote...
thriller chad tank
  05/30/12
Right, I'm sure many people feel better after a divorce, for...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
Are you comfortable dating/long-term relationshipping with a...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/30/12
I don't have a problem with very liberal women and have date...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
That's comforting. Some dudes are total douches about stuff ...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/30/12
Oh, I agree with you about the mutual accountability, but my...
thriller chad tank
  05/30/12
how much did you fuck your ex husband over for?
Fragrant green kitty reading party
  05/30/12
How's the money?
Trip Gaped Shrine
  05/29/12
Very good. No complaints on that front.
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
How many years in? Can you give us a sense for income range...
Trip Gaped Shrine
  05/29/12
About 8 years. I make a little over $200 K, but that's not ...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
What is the likelihood I will win a motion for modification ...
khaki aphrodisiac menage newt
  05/29/12
I can't say. You'd need to consult your own attorney for th...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
lol, fucked up.
Bateful stage scourge upon the earth
  12/26/12
What's the retainer on a very simple divorce (amicable and w...
irradiated twinkling forum
  05/29/12
I know you're going to hate this answer, but it depends. Fo...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
how'd you get started doing divorces? how big is your firm?
irradiated twinkling forum
  05/29/12
Couldn't hack it in biglaw. I met up with the lawyer who or...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
homeraiser bitches with no money get alpha divorce lawyers p...
Concupiscible persian circlehead
  05/29/12
We can refer him somewhere else if the retainer's too much.
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
how did you get into divorce law? Is it "sexy"? H...
brass codepig
  05/29/12
1. I knew one of the lawyers very well. 2. No. It can be...
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
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citrine aromatic box office gunner
  05/29/12
It does happen, but not very often.
dashing electric furnace
  05/29/12
What state do you practice in? How. Many partners in your pr...
cordovan thirsty rehab
  05/29/12
"I like family/divorce law...." lol law student...
multi-colored center cuckoldry
  05/29/12
cr
demanding deer antler background story
  05/29/12
Not a law student, actually. I really am just that fucking w...
cordovan thirsty rehab
  05/29/12
nobody who has practiced or knows shit about 'family law' pr...
multi-colored center cuckoldry
  05/29/12
Well I like it. I think it could get real old fast, but I th...
cordovan thirsty rehab
  05/29/12
yfwgi
Chrome Submissive Stead Puppy
  05/29/12
Nope
cordovan thirsty rehab
  05/30/12
1. Midwest 2. Three partners, four associates 3. No ...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
will most judges toss even consideration of a prenup if kids...
Fragrant green kitty reading party
  05/29/12
can't waive child support in prenup
learning disabled angry market
  05/29/12
worst child support payment you've seen ordered with respect...
Fragrant green kitty reading party
  05/30/12
Client who lost his job and was jailed for failure to suppor...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
How the fuck is he supposed to provide support if he is unem...
Fragrant green kitty reading party
  05/30/12
How much do you have to owe before you're jailed? Is that de...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/30/12
Judge's discretion. It can sometimes be a few hundred dolla...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
I once worked with a woman whose ex owed her child support b...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/30/12
Can't say without seeing the support order (sometimes paymen...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
It really confuses me that dudes go around making babies lik...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/30/12
Some men don't anticipate a divorce. Some think with the wr...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
What do you mean by "consideration" of the prenup?...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
so they actually still honor them to the extent possible? I'...
Fragrant green kitty reading party
  05/30/12
It depends on the judge. Some will take a substantially fai...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
Thoughts on "covenant marriage"?
Ebony Cracking Crackhouse
  05/29/12
I'm cynical about this. Seems like using Scotch tape to rep...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
What's best way to get clients? Is it easy to get clients as...
learning disabled angry market
  05/29/12
not op but the law is basically reasonableness.
Swashbuckling Spot Ratface
  05/29/12
1. We generally get ours through referrals from other lawyer...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
how do you obtain service when 1 party disappears?
Swashbuckling Spot Ratface
  05/29/12
Call the sheriff or obtain an order to serve by publication.
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
A judge that I clerked for primarily did family law. I co...
Chrome Submissive Stead Puppy
  05/29/12
Cr family law grinds on you. I really think it I damn near i...
Olive kitchen
  05/30/12
...
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  05/30/12
please please please post your strategy and execution once y...
Fragrant green kitty reading party
  05/30/12
...
demanding deer antler background story
  05/30/12
I know quite a few divorce lawyers who enjoy being rude, hor...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
Good luck on the disbarment. Unless you can show she stole m...
Chrome Submissive Stead Puppy
  05/30/12
Damn you for creating one of those rare XO threads that actu...
adulterous site
  05/30/12
do u think if a 10/10 russian mail order bride decides to di...
Histrionic Bossy Rigor Corner
  05/30/12
He can try.
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
hopefully he will get his rating up to national master level...
avocado becky hominid
  05/30/12
Are you in a major metro area?
Ruby passionate organic girlfriend church
  05/30/12
Large city, yeah.
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
What's the standard for Pendente Lite support?
flatulent mahogany national security agency
  05/30/12
It depends (new favorite phrase), but most come down to main...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
Do you go out to lunch every day?
pink pontificating parlour
  05/30/12
Most of the time I eat at the office.
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
Do you have lunch delivered/catered in? I feel like lawyers ...
pink pontificating parlour
  05/30/12
Sometimes. I eat a lot of Chinese takeout when stressed.
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12
Chinese food = brain-eater.
pink pontificating parlour
  05/30/12
Thoughts on wgwag?
transparent boltzmann
  05/30/12
I had the WG in a WGWAG seeking divorce once. First thought...
dashing electric furnace
  05/30/12


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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786160)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:48 PM
Author: Dun Indecent Meetinghouse Coldplay Fan

How much did you make last year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790032)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:03 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

A little more than $200 K. However, some of that was doing estate planning as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791976)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:42 AM
Author: Electric Honey-headed Keepsake Machete Community Account

does it bother you that you profit from misery?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786182)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:47 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Yes.

Hypothetically speaking, imagine if you had an adulterous client who accused her ex of child abuse. You, of course, run the ex through the wringer. He protests innocence, but the judge sides with you and denies visitation.

A few years later, you find out through a colleague in the public defender's office that your client's boyfriend has been sexually abusing the children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786227)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:48 AM
Author: Electric Honey-headed Keepsake Machete Community Account

cot damn

how do you not even killself at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786232)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:51 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

I recently had a client commit suicide too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786263)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:56 AM
Author: Electric Honey-headed Keepsake Machete Community Account

christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786297)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Fragrant green kitty reading party

wow. so happy I do biglaw when I think of this misery. Do you have a degree in psych as well?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789796)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Poli Sci

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792246)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:37 AM
Author: avocado becky hominid

So it's a win-win (TMF)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792124)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:42 AM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

Least significant possession you witnessed a couple fight over?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786188)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

There was a tacky mug set (couldn't have been more than $10 total). Wife wanted the complete set, the husband would only give her one of the six.

There was also a fight over a broken Walkman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786256)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:54 AM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

lol mugs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786282)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: Coral goyim

Strangest reason for a divorce?

Worst story of infidelity?

Any completely amicable divorces where spouses remained friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786257)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:02 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

1. They're actually pretty common, but I find emotional neglect and emotional battery complaints baffling. I can still do a pretty good job on these, but typically I get a colleague to look over my stuff first because it's hard for me to sympathize. If you're just asking about outright weirdness, we might have had a client who was getting gaslighted by her spouse. He would hide shit around the house and tell her she was going crazy. She caught him doing it on camera.

2. I mentioned one already: adulterous woman accused her husband of child abuse, left him for a pedophile. Another case involved the judge having an affair with one of the parties (did not come out until after the divorce settlement).

3. Sometimes, though usually they don't retain lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786330)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:04 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

How strongly do you feel about divorce yourself? If you were to divorce, are there certain things you'd be sure you tried first to ensure it was the best decision?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786347)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:16 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

I would not get married. Most of the benefits can be found in a long-term relationship and marriage affords very few legal protections, especially for men (it's no picnic for women either). You're very much at the whim of the system. A lot of clients don't seem to understand how no-fault or pre-nups work.

That said, I'd be sure to initiate. Frankly, by the time either side is even threatening divorce, the marriage has deteriorated beyond repair. In my experience, judges don't really seem to reward good-faith efforts by one spouse to "fix" the marriage. It's best to make a clean break, but keep it amicable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786448)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:25 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

I think this is fair.

While I think it's not a terrible idea to "work through things," I do agree that once divorce is on the table, either party has checked out.

I also don't think people should feel pressure to marry unless they plan to have children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786496)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:28 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

I don't plan to have children, but as a man, I'd take zero comfort in the protections marriage affords with regard to children.

Child custody disputes are the nastiest by far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786510)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:32 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

Would an unmarried couple just seek mediation in the event of a "break-up"? What would be the proceedings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786528)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:39 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

If the couple had children, sure. You'd probably want some formal agreement for visitation and child support.

The mediator usually offers general legal advice and tries to give both sides an understanding of what their options are. The goal is to work to an equitable outcome and avoid conflicts. You can still retain independent counsel (in fact, it's recommended).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786568)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:44 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

Have you ever had a case that was so amicable it creeped you out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786607)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:51 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Not really. It's usually a relief when people can be civil to each other.

There was one case when I was just starting out, but I wouldn't really count it as amicable. We had a conference where our client was going along with everything her ex said, including things she had clearly established earlier were "non-negotiable." I cut the meeting short, did a little digging, and found a domestic violence record (she had not mentioned it, but it was still carelessness on my part). Filed a restraining order and negotiated directly with his attorney from then on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786647)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:05 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

In cases where there is domestic violence, does that definitely mean 100% custody for the non-abusive party?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786698)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:09 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

No. There's a high probability, but there can be exceptions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786722)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:10 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

What percent of cases you've worked on have involved private investigation from one of the parties to bust the other?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786734)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:15 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Maybe 5%. I know some firms use these tactics more aggressively. Ours doesn't. People overestimate how much family court judges want to hear about infidelity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786752)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:15 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

Did you like the movie Intolerable Cruelty?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786757)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:17 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Never watched it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786761)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:17 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

George Clooney = smarmy divorce attorney with epic, patented prenup who gets pwned by his own prenup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786764)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:20 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

lol I might have to see that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786774)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:21 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

Are your friends allowed to retain your business or is that a conflict of interest?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786776)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:24 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

It depends. In most cases, I'd advise against it, especially since it's likely I know the spouse as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786789)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:50 AM
Author: thriller chad tank

I feel differently from my divorce. I feel there is no protection in marriage but there is in divorce. Meaning, there are rules & laws & accountability, and someone's finally looking at one's behavior & actions. If it wasn't for my lawyer, the mediators, the judge, even his lawyer, there'd be no stopping his craziness. There's no accountability in marriage, and even less in a living-together non-marriage. I felt vulnerable in my first marriage, but I felt protected and chaperoned in my divorce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791928)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Right, I'm sure many people feel better after a divorce, for the reasons you stated. It seems like you had very capable lawyers to guide you through the process. I do think the system is tilted towards women. My view on relationships also differs; I prefer a partnership where we're mutually accountable to each other. If not, I'll walk (much easier in a relationship vs. a marriage).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791999)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:12 AM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

Are you comfortable dating/long-term relationshipping with a woman who also believes in the concept of abandoning marriage?

This will typically be a very liberal woman who likely has other behaviors that most men find unappealing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792004)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:20 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

I don't have a problem with very liberal women and have dated a few. I'm not fond of women who approach relationships as a political exercise, whether or not I agree with their politics.

At the moment, I'm dating a nice girl who accepts my views on matrimony, but doesn't exactly agree with them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792048)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:23 AM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

That's comforting. Some dudes are total douches about stuff like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792060)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 8:57 PM
Author: thriller chad tank

Oh, I agree with you about the mutual accountability, but my first husband would disagree. Second marriage is divine, however... sometimes things work out!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20795534)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:11 AM
Author: Fragrant green kitty reading party

how much did you fuck your ex husband over for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792003)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:27 PM
Author: Trip Gaped Shrine

How's the money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786506)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:31 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Very good. No complaints on that front.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786527)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:10 PM
Author: Trip Gaped Shrine

How many years in? Can you give us a sense for income range?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786729)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:16 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

About 8 years. I make a little over $200 K, but that's not entirely on divorce cases/family law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786760)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:33 PM
Author: khaki aphrodisiac menage newt

What is the likelihood I will win a motion for modification of spousal support if I lose my biglaw job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786535)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:40 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

I can't say. You'd need to consult your own attorney for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786575)



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Date: December 26th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: Bateful stage scourge upon the earth

lol, fucked up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#22317090)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:34 PM
Author: irradiated twinkling forum

What's the retainer on a very simple divorce (amicable and without substantial assets to divy up)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786542)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:42 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

I know you're going to hate this answer, but it depends. For us, a typical fee on a typical amicable divorce might be around $600-700. But "typical" almost never happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786595)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:49 PM
Author: irradiated twinkling forum

how'd you get started doing divorces? how big is your firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786635)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:02 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Couldn't hack it in biglaw. I met up with the lawyer who originally encouraged me to go to law school.

There are seven of us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786688)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:50 PM
Author: Concupiscible persian circlehead

homeraiser bitches with no money get alpha divorce lawyers paid for with their husbands' money...how do you get that initial retainer BEFORE the judge awards temp alimony? you tell the hoe to raid his 401k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786643)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:07 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

We can refer him somewhere else if the retainer's too much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786713)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:05 PM
Author: brass codepig

how did you get into divorce law? Is it "sexy"? How would you recommend someone who is interested in it/and is a sociopath to get there from a typical corporate biglaw job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786701)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:10 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

1. I knew one of the lawyers very well.

2. No. It can be exhausting at times and even the amicable divorces are sad.

3. Send a resume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786736)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:05 PM
Author: citrine aromatic box office gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786704)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:11 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

It does happen, but not very often.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786744)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 9:01 PM
Author: cordovan thirsty rehab

What state do you practice in? How. Many partners in your practice? Are a solo practitioner? Are you happy?

I like family/divorce law....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789240)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 9:51 PM
Author: multi-colored center cuckoldry

"I like family/divorce law...."

lol law student. family law is the most miserable and horrible shit out there. high end divorce stuff is probably the only thing that's remotely tolerable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789543)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 9:52 PM
Author: demanding deer antler background story

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789550)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: cordovan thirsty rehab

Not a law student, actually. I really am just that fucking weird...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789658)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:12 PM
Author: multi-colored center cuckoldry

nobody who has practiced or knows shit about 'family law' proclaims to like it. it is a miserable hellish shitlaw box that some idealists get trapped in and can't escape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789712)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: cordovan thirsty rehab

Well I like it. I think it could get real old fast, but I think it's pretty manageable ... Conceptually easy and, believe it or not, tolerable. I see why so many abhor it, but I really don't mind it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789845)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: Chrome Submissive Stead Puppy

yfwgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790268)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 7:53 AM
Author: cordovan thirsty rehab

Nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791578)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:13 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

1. Midwest

2. Three partners, four associates

3. No

4. Hard to say. In general, I think so. Lately it's been rough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792007)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:26 PM
Author: Fragrant green kitty reading party

will most judges toss even consideration of a prenup if kids are involved?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789864)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:48 PM
Author: learning disabled angry market

can't waive child support in prenup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790029)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:54 AM
Author: Fragrant green kitty reading party

worst child support payment you've seen ordered with respect to a guy's income?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791941)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:24 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Client who lost his job and was jailed for failure to support. This happens pretty often.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792061)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:29 AM
Author: Fragrant green kitty reading party

How the fuck is he supposed to provide support if he is unemployed, let alone jailed?

This is retarded beyond all belief

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792091)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:31 AM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

How much do you have to owe before you're jailed? Is that determined by state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792097)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:44 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Judge's discretion. It can sometimes be a few hundred dollars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792159)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:48 AM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

I once worked with a woman whose ex owed her child support but he also had like four other kids. Because he owes her and her kid is the first of his five, she gets first dibs on his tax returns and wages are garnished until the full amount is paid out.

I've never asked, but once her kid is 18, does that likely end or will she continue to get paid until the amount he owes is zero?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792181)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:54 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Can't say without seeing the support order (sometimes payments continue past 18 if the child goes to college, for example). In most cases, it stops unless she petitions the court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792224)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

It really confuses me that dudes go around making babies like it's NBD. They will be slaves to these children regardless of their role as an active parent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792244)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:59 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Some men don't anticipate a divorce. Some think with the wrong head. Some are just really sentimental.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792261)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:23 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

What do you mean by "consideration" of the prenup? Child support and custody can't be settled by prenup, so there will be substantial modifications made, even if the judge uses it as a starting point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792057)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:29 AM
Author: Fragrant green kitty reading party

so they actually still honor them to the extent possible? I've heard that in some places they completely ignore the prenup if kids are involved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792086)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:46 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

It depends on the judge. Some will take a substantially fair pre-nup in an otherwise amicable divorce as a starting point for deciding what's fair. The terms will always be adjusted if there are kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792171)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:49 PM
Author: Ebony Cracking Crackhouse

Thoughts on "covenant marriage"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790034)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:25 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

I'm cynical about this. Seems like using Scotch tape to repair a torpedo hit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792066)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:50 PM
Author: learning disabled angry market

What's best way to get clients? Is it easy to get clients as solo? Is the law easy to learn (relatively)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790041)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Spot Ratface

not op but the law is basically reasonableness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790047)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:36 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

1. We generally get ours through referrals from other lawyers. For example, a lawyer who did estate planning for the couple cannot represent either party in a divorce. We may also get referrals from mediators. Other firms rely on higher volume, so they advertise in the yellow pages. You have a few who have the "battle axe" reputation; most of their business comes via word-of-mouth.

2. I don't know, since I've never practiced solo.

3. The law is pretty basic, but family courts run on equity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792116)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Spot Ratface

how do you obtain service when 1 party disappears?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790043)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Call the sheriff or obtain an order to serve by publication.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792128)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: Chrome Submissive Stead Puppy

A judge that I clerked for primarily did family law.

I could not do your job at all.

Family law has to be the most miserable field out there.

Even with Criminal Law you just show up for a few court appearances and the have the Def. plead to a good deal from the Prosecutor.

But Family Law?

FUCK that, you've gotta deal with dumbasses who are fighting over pots and pans.

I hope you get the retainer UP FRONT before you file anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790278)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 7:57 AM
Author: Olive kitchen

Cr family law grinds on you. I really think it I damn near impossible for a person to practice exclusively family law for their entire career and for it not to have serious psychological effects on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791580)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:17 AM
Author: demanding deer antler background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791847)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:53 AM
Author: Fragrant green kitty reading party

please please please post your strategy and execution once you get this bitch.

This sounds like the worst part of this. Not the human misery, but the horrid toilet lawyers you must have to work with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791940)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 1:00 PM
Author: demanding deer antler background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792582)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 8:44 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

I know quite a few divorce lawyers who enjoy being rude, horrible people. You have a perfect storm of vindictive clients and relatively flexible rules.

But it sounds pretty bad if you're considering reporting her to the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20795472)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 8:56 PM
Author: Chrome Submissive Stead Puppy

Good luck on the disbarment. Unless you can show she stole money from a client, the Star Bar won't do shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20795528)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:43 AM
Author: adulterous site

Damn you for creating one of those rare XO threads that actually adds value to the site. The hope of similar threads will keep me coming back for months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791914)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:50 AM
Author: Histrionic Bossy Rigor Corner

do u think if a 10/10 russian mail order bride decides to divorce her husband and hires u, he will kill u in a driveby or just make u disappear?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791930)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

He can try.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792134)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:52 AM
Author: avocado becky hominid

hopefully he will get his rating up to national master level and then all the local russian thugs will be made aware and refuse to touch him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792215)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:31 AM
Author: Ruby passionate organic girlfriend church

Are you in a major metro area?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792101)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:40 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Large city, yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792139)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:45 AM
Author: flatulent mahogany national security agency

What's the standard for Pendente Lite support?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792168)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: dashing electric furnace

It depends (new favorite phrase), but most come down to maintaining standard of living during divorce proceedings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792203)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:03 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

Do you go out to lunch every day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792278)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:07 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Most of the time I eat at the office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792286)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:10 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

Do you have lunch delivered/catered in? I feel like lawyers don't tend to bring food from home.

Well, unless they're married.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792305)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:13 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

Sometimes. I eat a lot of Chinese takeout when stressed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792330)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: pink pontificating parlour

Chinese food = brain-eater.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792377)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:22 PM
Author: transparent boltzmann

Thoughts on wgwag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792371)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:27 PM
Author: dashing electric furnace

I had the WG in a WGWAG seeking divorce once. First thought was to tell her she couldn't.

Seen a few when we do estate planning and it still makes me laugh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792411)