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Western game developers are retarded and suck at making games atm

Like Jap developers kind of went through the same thing with...
Electric Idiot Kitty
  05/12/24
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Looking back at my Game History I made some foolish choices....
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what about Balder's Gate 3
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I mentioned Larian in OP, you philistine. They embody the PC...
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I skimmed the post and forgot that Larian is BG3 developer. ...
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Afaik it is. I read an article in PC World about Larian some...
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their earlier games, divine divinity series, were a yuge hit...
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Todd is like the quintessential Gen Xer. His rightful destin...
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Tyranny was amazing. I'm still steamed that they never made ...
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agreed, it was an unexpected 180. setting really did seem cr...
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Morrowind Credits: 2:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyuA...
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haha 180
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What about Baldur's Gate
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Kingdom Come 2 is going to be amazing
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This is just the result of the push to make the industry &qu...
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what are some games that are basically modern remakes of War...
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Please stop saying game. We say Title here
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i meant no offense number 1
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Excellent post.
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We can just use Gaming/Consoles/The Gaming Business as a spr...
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Date: May 12th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Like Jap developers kind of went through the same thing with PS3 and couldn't really figure it out because the Engineering involved was too intense.

Imo the Xbox Scum Renaissance of 2005-2012 was enabled by bringing a lot of PC games to consoles. PC devs typically had TONS of Engineering cred. But at some point being brought into the Console-verse caused them to lose their soul and become retarded. Bethesda in 2000 was probably like 20 serious af Engineers, a few artists, and Todd. Now it's probably 300 retards just doing whatever and Todd can't keep them in line because he's like 5'4.

Imo PC Devs, especially around the turn of the century, are/were just a different animal. They're just groups of Engineers, passionate about Engineering, and video gaming is how they express that passion. Larian still embodies this imo. But the Corporate Culture is totally different at Western Console Devs which are largely retarded, just like their customers. It's less about Engineering and more about being retarded, taking a long time to do shit, and wasting large amounts of money. Spider Man 2 should not have cost $300,000,000k ffs. And then the big scary "publisher" with its suit men gets involved and gets maf, I mean ffs they created the mess to begin with. Yeah sure, "publishers" and "capitalism" and "publicly traded companies" are soooooo strict with their deadlines (or so redditors say), when really they get like 7 years to make Games and the deadlines aren't tight at all. But yeah they get pissed when they pay westerners to Do Nothing when they're supposed to be WFH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47655666)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 1:17 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47655735)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 1:24 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Theatre



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Date: May 12th, 2024 1:28 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Looking back at my Game History I made some foolish choices. A lot of western games got tons of marketing during the 6th-7th gen. I rented some here and there and was just like "holy shit this sucks." Like playing something like Red Faction or Black for PS2 just felt like "I'm like the retarded step child of a PC gamer."

7th gen was worse, Japanese Titles like FF13 got review bombed and like everything prominent was Western. It was a dark age. It really took Fromsoft to bring us out of it, combined with Zelda BOTW and its Identical Little Brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47655780)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 1:27 PM
Author: Greedy Old Irish Cottage

what about Balder's Gate 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47655777)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

I mentioned Larian in OP, you philistine. They embody the PC ethos.

Xbox took PC developers and warped them into retard bastard versions of themselves. I bet the Starfield End Credits are like 5x longer than Morrowind's. Morrowind was made exclusively by white male Engineers probably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47655786)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 6:15 PM
Author: Greedy Old Irish Cottage

I skimmed the post and forgot that Larian is BG3 developer. I thought it was some crowdfunded project with a consortium of elite Engineers and that’s why it doesn’t Suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47656444)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 6:26 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Afaik it is. I read an article in PC World about Larian some years ago. Larian was started by a Cadre of Elite Gen X Engineers in Belgium, far from the influence of American "game publishers." The founder of the Firm has a passion first and foremost for Engineering, and only branched off into games when he saw the Business potential. His height, you ask? 6`6``. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3540642/

Todd Howard is like 5'4 imho. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get Nerds to do what you tell them unless you have either Nerd cred or Jock/Tall Guy cred. Todd majored in Business and tells made-up stories about writing Games for his graphing calculator.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47656469)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 6:29 PM
Author: Greedy Old Irish Cottage



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Date: May 12th, 2024 6:36 PM
Author: floppy liquid oxygen

their earlier games, divine divinity series, were a yuge hit among PC nerds. there have been some smaller indie kickstarter rpgs in the last few years you could class in the same broad genre as BLG3 like tyranny and the pathfinder games, but they never maed it for whatever reason. probably jews. and/or todd howard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47656492)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 6:59 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Todd is like the quintessential Gen Xer. His rightful destiny is to be like 3 levels below some Boomer. He's only in charge because he's in a field that was a Joke until recent years, and boomers don't know how to use computers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47656530)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:45 AM
Author: duck-like glittery step-uncle's house

Tyranny was amazing. I'm still steamed that they never made a sequel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47657107)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 10:15 PM
Author: floppy liquid oxygen

agreed, it was an unexpected 180. setting really did seem creative enough to be an old 90's CRPG. ah well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47659465)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 1:32 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Morrowind Credits: 2:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyuAbbERYks

Starfield credits: 44:33k minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-w-fdmF0aU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47655799)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:58 PM
Author: Greedy Old Irish Cottage

haha 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47662503)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 3:49 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty



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Date: May 12th, 2024 7:02 PM
Author: Charismatic indian lodge rigor

What about Baldur's Gate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47656533)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 7:08 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&mc=14&forum_id=2#47655786

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47656537)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 8:35 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47656706)



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Date: May 12th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: walnut tanning salon

Kingdom Come 2 is going to be amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47656720)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 10:12 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47659459)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:51 PM
Author: walnut tanning salon

hopefully there will be a chance to crack shifty kikes over the head with a mace in this sequel. every time i do it, i'll think of you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47662492)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:15 AM
Author: motley patrolman

This is just the result of the push to make the industry "inclusive." You are comparing the results of teams heavily constituted from zoomer women and minorities with the output of white and azn gen X nerds.

https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=318-chronicling-the-inability-of-gamedevs-to-make-video-games

by gerey » March 10th, 2023, 21:50

I've said it a few times - if you ever wonder why modern games suck, just take a look at a picture of the development team.

Gotham Knights is a perfect example of this. It somehow manages to look and play worse than Arkham Knight, a game that came out 8 years ago, and the development team looks just like you'd expect them to.

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It's no coincidence that modern games take 5+ years to make, require development teams numbering in the hundreds, and still somehow manage to release half-finished, buggy and lacking in the complexity and ambition of games from 30 years ago - and this despite a wealth of institutional experience to fall back on, mature engines and development tools, middleware and plenty of examples of what works and what doesn't. Making a game today is easier than ever, and yet less good games are being released nowadays than at any previous point in history.

Developers in the 90s had none of those advantages - they were largely required to code their own engines and tools from scratch, while simultaneously developing the game itself.

Just look at Ubisoft or 343. Perfect microcosm of the modern gamedev - massively bloated companies stuffed to the brim with women, dangerhairs, faggots, troons and minorities - needing development teams numbering 200+ employees and budgets rivaling Hollywood blockbusters, and still being unable to release a finished product after half a decade of development.

343, same demographic breakdown, same issues. They were handed over one of the biggest gaming franchises to have ever existed and have proceeded to so thoroughly fuck it up that Halo is basically dead. Infinite is such a shitshow that almost two years after release they still haven't fixed game-breaking bugs, and likely never will.

Same issues crop up with EA, Activision, Blizzard - basically every AAA developer/publisher is seemingly incapable of making a functional product.

I'm old enough to remember EA games from the mid-00s. None of those games were particularly inspiring, but the EA brand at least stood for a competent product that would run and play well (at least on consoles).

We can see a similar trend all across the industry. Fedora Master put it best when he said that modern game developers have forgotten how to build the pyramids. And it's not just games, it's everything. From movies, to books, comics, cars, airplanes, even critical infrastructure. The less (non-liberal) white men are included in a project, the shitter it will be - this is an objective truth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47657090)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 7:33 AM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

This guy seems to know a thing or two about the State of Gaming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47657201)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 10:33 PM
Author: Hairraiser Dull Property French Chef



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Date: May 13th, 2024 9:33 AM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Btw Eastern Firms can still churn out huge titles like it’s nbd. These conversations are always focused on the West

It’s interesting though how we have such rigid stratifications and Cliques and ALL of them suck at white collar work except Nerds and Losers (the latter only for non-technical work). Whereas in Japan you just put some guys in suits and give him a computer and you have a Game in 21 months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47657339)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 9:46 AM
Author: walnut tanning salon



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Date: May 13th, 2024 1:12 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:31 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty



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Date: May 15th, 2024 7:15 AM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty



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Date: May 13th, 2024 9:41 AM
Author: chartreuse ungodly ticket booth selfie

what are some games that are basically modern remakes of Warcraft 2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47657362)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 11:08 AM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Please stop saying game. We say Title here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47657595)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: chartreuse ungodly ticket booth selfie

i meant no offense number 1



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47657599)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 12:07 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

Excellent post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47657708)



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Date: May 13th, 2024 6:36 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty

We can just use Gaming/Consoles/The Gaming Business as a springboard to talk about basically anything imo

Engineering

liberal arts

Business

Woke-ness/Women Ruining the world

Cliques

Gens (Console and human demographics)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5527813&forum_id=2#47658952)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:55 PM
Author: Electric Idiot Kitty



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Date: May 13th, 2024 10:21 PM
Author: magenta medicated deer antler pistol



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