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I think Portugal golden visa is the best value in europe
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 10:34 PM Author: Self-centered mental disorder They cancelled real estate option, but you can just put 500k into any etf or bond. It's not as good as investing in real estate a few years ago, but right now u wouldn't make any money in real estate anyway. I'd do it right now if I were ready to move, instead I think it will need to wait a few years. https://blog.atlanticbridge.com.br/en/golden-visa-portugal-faq
Also their nhr 2 program, once you decide to become a tax resident they don't tax foreign capital gains/dividends for 10 years. And they tax local income at flat 20% for 10yrs. I.e. if I continued to work as a doctor parttime I wouldn't get double taxed since my American tax is higher than 20% anyway. |
Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:29 PM Author: charcoal kitty crackhouse so €300,000 down the drain ("At least 60% of the investment must be allocated to commercial companies based in Portugal.") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151864) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:32 PM Author: Self-centered mental disorder No it means you can just buy a stock index fund, i.e. their version of spy.
The other alternative is D7 visa: no investment requirement but must move there and become a tax resident. In that case you would initiate NHR regime that lasts 10yrars. After 5yrs you become a permanent resident and no longer need to renew any visas or stay a tax resident. https://globalresidenceindex.com/portugal-d7-visa/ |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:38 PM Author: charcoal kitty crackhouse oh good, in that case you lose the entire 500k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151877) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:53 PM Author: Self-centered mental disorder Yeah I think right now Portugal stock market is booming. If we actually have a recession like 2008 it would be a good time to invest on Portugal because they'll be cheap then.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151894) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:55 PM Author: Self-centered mental disorder If you put 500k in 1 year ago when thr usd was equal 1euro and the index was 30% cheaper you would have doubled your investment just by buying the citizenship.. I am such an idiot for buying an apt in jew York. I'll be selling it after my visit this fall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151902) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 12:02 AM Author: cracking pisswyrm Portugal is actually doing alright atm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151913) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:30 PM Author: Nighttime laughsome locus dog poop isnt op a jew? why didnt he get jew citizenship to portugal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151865) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:34 PM Author: Self-centered mental disorder I find more interesting why didn't Abramovich just buy the golden visa, why did he go through the much more strenuous jew pathway? Or 14day stay every 2 years was too much for him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151871) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:40 PM Author: Nighttime laughsome locus dog poop visas can be retracted. citizenship cant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151880) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:36 PM Author: cracking pisswyrm they've been cracking down on that in the last decade or so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151875) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:39 PM Author: Nighttime laughsome locus dog poop they pulled the plug on it, but it was available for many years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151879) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:35 PM Author: Orchid Digit Ratio Piazza but it just gets u perm residency there, or also a passport? if just residency who cares, need passport (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151873) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Self-centered mental disorder Golden visa gets you citizenship after 5years(i.e. apply for it and get it at 6yr point). All this time you do not need to be a tax resident of Portugal. Now if you decide to move to Portugal you benefit from 10yrs nhr tax, that's a real benefit if you're Canadian, because u could cash out your lifelong dividends tax free. USA on the other hand might have higher capital tax rate in 10 years than eu.. so potentially once you're a citizen u might give up usa citizenship(but you will probably get exit tax raped).
The other visa d7 without investment, only gives pr after 5years. You lose pr if you stay out of the country for 2 years or forget to renew pr card every 5 years. And once NHR is exhausted you'll be subject to regular portuguese tax which is about 10% higher than usa. So the goal is to use nhr for 10yrs and then give up tax residency or edtablish tax residency in a low tax country. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 12:03 AM Author: Orchid Digit Ratio Piazza just buy st kitts passport for like 200k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151914) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 12:41 AM Author: Self-centered mental disorder If I were smart I would've just bought qqq a long time ago, no dividends. Then get portugal citizenship, exit usa and collect capital gains tax free. Once you get dividend stocks and networth of 2mln impossible to exit us citizenship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5757550&forum_id=2#49151942) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 1:19 AM Author: Self-centered mental disorder Ha and the program is cancelled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ_s4MmbT1w&pp=ygUaUG9ydHVnYWwgZ29sZGVuIHZpc2Egbm9tYWQ%3D
Basically everyone who invest 500k for 5 years is now told citizenship is actually 10 years with application times actually 12years. So now that 500k must stay in Portugal for 12years instead of 5. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 3:12 PM Author: Self-centered mental disorder Golden visa is worthless since they changed the citizenship requirement to 10yrs and u actually need to learn portuguese. That's way too much if you're going to invest 500k for 10yrs in their ttt economy. D7 visa doesn't require any investment, just requires you to live in Portugal. That can be useful once you are ready to move to Europe. I.e. get NHR for 10yrs, once you get PR card after 5 years, no need to stay in Portugal. They cannot take away PR card just because you stop being a tax resident. |