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told female friend tonight how much i wanted to eat her out...
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 1:38 AM Author: ivory water buffalo and got very politely ( but definitively) rejected.
She was actually real cool about it and ten minutes later we where talking normally like the good friends we are .
on the whole the experience was pretty pleasant. I wish all women where this good at rejecting guys |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 1:39 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace Ewwwwww! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544450) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 2:57 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace Dude, you are a disgusting piece of shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544722) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 2:58 AM Author: ivory water buffalo what the fuck are you babling about??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544732) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:00 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace I can see asking a female friend out or something, even suggesting a quick hump in the cupboard - but to balls-out ask to munch her box, is weird, dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544742) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:03 AM Author: ivory water buffalo she LOVES to get eaten out , the thing came out in the middle of a conversation in which she was complaining about an asshole she is dating who hates to eat her out. we were already out alone, having dinner.
a quick hump in the cupboards would have been more extreme. see my post below in the thread where i describe what happened in detail. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:08 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace I read it. You were totally creepy. No girl is EVER going to say yes to that.
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:19 AM Author: ivory water buffalo well i am a virgin, so almost certainly whatver i do isn't working.
but this is the only way to learn. any ways my main point in this thread was to state how impressed i am at how well she handled the situation. my unfortunate experience is that most girls would have stomped out on a hiffy fit, outraged that i was interested in engagin in the activity that is most natural among living creatures.
Oh and for the record i have never hit on a girl before in ANYTHING REMOTELY NEAR this level of explicitness. I only did it with her because i know she has slutty/horny personality, loves oral sex, and was confidin in me on who she isn't getting any oral sex. If all these factors had not come together i would not have done what i did. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:22 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace I hope you are a flame... how old are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544825) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:23 AM Author: ivory water buffalo nope not flame. 23 I seriously lacked a sex drive the first three years of college. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544827) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:25 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace I probably wouldn't talk to this girl or anyone in her social circle ever again, if I were you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544830) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:26 AM Author: ivory water buffalo but your not me. and thankfully she and i don't run in the same social circle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544833) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:29 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace You initiate physical contact with a person by making physical contact... if they don't reciprocate, it means they don't want to go further.
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:33 AM Author: ivory water buffalo but we have hugged and kissed in the past. i have known this girl for a year and a half. we have bumped and grinded on the dance floor on numerous occasions. once , while drunk , she even gave me a lap dance.
of course I believe all of the above are simply due to cockteasing, a behavior that does fit her show off attention getting personailty.
my point is, i * have* initiated physical contact in the past with her and it * has* been reciprocated.
Tonight, of course I crossed the line. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:38 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace No, you're her safe, contained little buddy. If the most she's done is a lap-dance... look at the parameters around a lap dance - legally required not to touch her - find yourself an equally nerdy young girl. Hell, use Facebook or something. Whatever the kids are up to these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544862) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:41 AM Author: ivory water buffalo "No, you're her safe, contained little buddy.""
and im OK with that. the whole point is that she IS NOT the type to take it seriously anf freak out about this. she just treats it like a game. i have fucked up with women many times before and i can instantly sense the " mood" change after the fuckup.
no such mood change tonight.
again, i am already aware that my chances of getting in her pants are 0% |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:44 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace Dude, if you have any shame at all you will never speak to this woman again.
If even if you hadn't committed this disgrace, she's treating you like shit. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:47 AM Author: ivory water buffalo shame is what has kept me a virgin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544882) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:47 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace Restraint is what has kept you out of prison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544885) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:49 AM Author: ivory water buffalo agreed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544888) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 7:26 AM Author: drunken school cafeteria really tough guy "outraged that i was interested in engagin in the activity that is most natural among living creatures"
that would be intercourse, not cunnilingus |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 7:29 AM Author: Greedy space *stomps out on a hiffy fit* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545008) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 7:37 AM Author: drunken school cafeteria really tough guy Nothing wrong with cunnilingus, but I wouldn't call it the most natural human activity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545010) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 1:38 PM Author: startled bbw The fact that you were offering to service her without being reciprocated is what made the difference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545816) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 1:40 AM Author: Concupiscible Idea He Suggested rape her? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544454) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 7:38 AM Author: drunken school cafeteria really tough guy Sounds like he's inches away from doing just that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545015) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 1:45 AM Author: vigorous gaping lay how did you bring it up? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544471) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 2:55 AM Author: ivory water buffalo though i certainly intended to flirt with her, i had not seriously considered telling her that i fantasized about eating her out ( which i do) it just came up.
see she was talking to me about this loserfuck ( she actually did call him a loser) she is obsessed with for reasons she herself does not understand. he is some low level officer in the navy while she is off to the peace corps in february. she is obsessed with him but according to her he doesn't give a crap about her, just using her as a convenient booty call. she told me the guy was so vapid and beneath her and low class and emotionally cold and yada yada but that she couldn't stop thinking about him and obsessing over him etc.
she asks me what she should do and i just tell her not to get too emotional or romantic about him, since the peace corps will end all chance for a relationship and probably change the very things she finds attractive in a man.
Now at this point in time i am thinking my friend's attachment to this douche is physical. she is VERY sexual, the relationship she describes sounds like a fuck buddy relationship gone complicated, and in my head i am imagining a buff navy jock. so i add....." if the fucking is good just use him as a living dildo ..." but the fucking ISN'T good" she exclaims . what to do you mean i ask " he doesn't care about me , even in bed he is a very selfish lover"
Now i am a virgin, but i am pretty aware of what this phrase means. not only that, but i am aware my friend loves to get eaten out, how do i know this? because she has a guide to eating out pussy on her fucking myspace. its literally the first thing you see, and its been there for at least a year.
"so he doesn''t go down on you " i tell her. she looks slightly shocked." well i know you like to get eaten out since you have a guide for it on your myspace" she starts laughing, but after a bit she looks at me and she sya " i do love it" she says , and blushes. " he never doesit " she complains. well why would he, if he knows he can just fuck you ?
" yeah he doesn't even have to ask we just get alone and im on him,but it sucks every time!"
now this entire conversation i have had my left arm over her shoulders, this conversation has taken place in the form of conspiratorial whispers in each others ears. at this point in time i lean in. " you know that time we went dancing at passion and you had that black skirt on" " yeah" only then did i notice you have great legs ( she laughs) ever since then i have wanted to eat you out,( oh ho! she says) you don't have to do anything ( Noo she says and starts slowlly but firmly pushing me away with both hands) " you don't have to do anything just lie there and enjoy and of course tell me what yu want ( she keeps pushing me slowly away) " i won't even take off my clothes, ill put a cell phone in your hand so you can call the cops if i dosomething you don't want" ( at this point she says my name and says no firmly.)
I look at her for twenty or so seconds and then say " allright" I scoot away so there is a good 30 inches of space separating us. the next couple of minutes are somewhat awkward. but Ten minutes later we are talking like NOTHING happened.
we then continued a series of raucus and interesting conversations, even returning to the navy guy, but also discussing the peace corps the imminent start for law school for me , the craziness of central african nations. we talked for another THREE AND A HALF hours after my very explicit comeon and there was no akwardness or sign of damage to our friendhsip.
we are hanging out again on saturday.
oh and the setting was a small bar/restaurant with these little nooks and such.
and for those who are going to tell me that i came on as desperate and that i am FRIENDZONEPWNED be aware i am already aware of this . i am resigned to my fate. she was never long term girlfriend material and icertainly have no romantic feelings towards her.
she is just a funny supercool latina CGWBT. if all i can be with her is friends ill gladly take the friendship.
why can't more girls be like this? THIS is how you turn down a pass, you don't have to go ahead and make the guy asahmed that he has a cock betweeen his legs. my friend was very firm, but she did not make me feel bad or guilty or anything. learn from this girls.
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:14 AM Author: smoky casino juggernaut lol @ your life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544794) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 7:37 AM Author: saffron brethren den lulz. i know i won't ever get depressed with my life after hearing this story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545012) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 2:42 PM Author: fragrant chapel lol @ his life is TCR. What a pathetic creep. No wonder he is a 23 year old virgin. I bet something comes up so she can avoid you sat./for the rest of her life. Who thinks it is ok to say stuff like that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8546013) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 12:23 AM Author: talking comical karate this is the credited response of all credited responess
JEBUS CHRIST YOU FAGGOT -- YOU'RE A VIRGIN.
go kiss a girl before you offer to eat out a girl who is FRIENDS WITH YOU.
read that again: she didnt friendzone you TONIGHT. youve been friedzoned since a billion years ago you dumbfuck. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:16 AM Author: exhilarant school affirmative action i'll give you some advice. you wrote this:
"you don't have to do anything ( Noo she says and starts slowlly but firmly pushing me away with both hands) " you don't have to do anything just lie there and enjoy and of course tell me what yu want ( she keeps pushing me slowly away) " i won't even take off my clothes, ill put a cell phone in your hand so you can call the cops if i dosomething you don't want" ( at this point she says my name and says no firmly.)"
this is your problem. you acted like she was doing you a favor. you should have made it clear that you would be doing HER a favor to lick her pussy with your gifted tongue. you would give her the best oral of her life. don't brag or boast, just state it. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:22 AM Author: purple french chef lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545228) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 11:19 AM Author: multi-colored gay field pozpig This sounds exceptionally creepy.
She probably acted like nothing happened because she wanted to excise the memory. |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 12:23 AM Author: talking comical karate titcp
the psychologist set calls it "suppressing" -- a defense mechanism. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:34 PM Author: violent address jap 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8546230) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 12:29 AM Author: rusted beady-eyed legal warrant disappointing. i was expecting to see the fresh prince lyrics at the end. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9080528) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 2:17 AM Author: Cocky coffee pot LOL, a true 180. One of the best posts I've ever read. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9080792) |
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Date: July 27th, 2008 5:43 PM Author: Amethyst Foreskin " i won't even take off my clothes, ill put a cell phone in your hand so you can call the cops if i dosomething you don't want" ( at this point she says my name and says no firmly.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10015278) |
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Date: July 27th, 2008 5:53 PM Author: pearl shaky milk house This is the best post in XOXO history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10015289) |
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Date: July 27th, 2008 6:13 PM Author: Sickened Emerald Filthpig Antidepressant Drug the genius of it is he drew it out so much as to seem earnest about it. the cell phone in the hand bit shatters the highest echelon of flamecraft, superseding even sears-tpt at his best (which is certainly no easy task). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10015334) |
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Date: July 27th, 2008 6:18 PM Author: pearl shaky milk house I thought the best part was there was a moral to the story. It wasn't the obvious one either – don't say impulsive, creepy things to girls. It was that "THIS is how you turn down a pass!"
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Date: July 27th, 2008 6:24 PM Author: Sickened Emerald Filthpig Antidepressant Drug i can appreciate a well-crafted big picture, but as an amateur flamecrafter, i am eminently aware of the immense talent that lies behind singular, ingenious details. when you can twist RL half-truths and fleeting, random thoughts into inflammatory absurdities like this OP, you are truly a flame master. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10015353) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 1:46 AM Author: curious senate haha you still are speaking to her? what a fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544475) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 2:58 AM Author: ivory water buffalo why am i a fag? do girls only exist in your world as potential sex toys, and ocne this is denied you , they are worthless??
I understand she is not sexually attracted to me. i won't hit on her again. why should i punish her and banish her form my life?
anyways come february she will be off for three years of peace corps duty.
sorry to hear your relationships with humans suck so much |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 5:10 PM Author: curious senate she basically told you that you are too repugnant to screw. Being OK with that and continuing to "be friends" is what makes you a fag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8546656) |
Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:11 AM Author: orchid meetinghouse rigor i know you posted this to share what you consider a nice experience, but it really reveals what a sad little douche you are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544786) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:15 AM Author: Opaque french theater titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544798) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:16 AM Author: azure background story theater stage eh, probably just more flame bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544801) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:17 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace Can you imagine what the girl was thinking as he said this?
Picturing the scene: this sweaty, badly-dressed Indian kid with a gut , who kinda smells; but she tolerates because she feels she can tell him anything, suddenly blurting out: "Can I eat you out?" in this Apu accent. His arm was around her neck, mind you.
Afterwards, "But logically, you have posted an oral sex guide on your MySpace account, I have tongue, why you not wanna lick?" While she's backing away... |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:18 AM Author: smoky casino juggernaut don't even worry! i won't even take off my clothes, ill put a cell phone in your hand so you can call the cops if i dosomething you don't want! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544815) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:20 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace All the while he's snouting closer and closer towards her asshole... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544821) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 9:39 AM Author: territorial ebony center messiness I am fucking dying right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9081237) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:21 AM Author: ivory water buffalo we are both latins. the name and sig are a reference to the scene in th departed where DiCaprio beats down the guineas from Providence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544822) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:24 AM Author: Opaque french theater no wonder. Latinas are notorious for seeking out complete losers who treat them like shit, it's engrained in their culture. i've met some beautiful hispanic women who dated the ugliest motherfuckers you can imagine, simply because the guy treated her like complete shit and somehow she got off on it. |
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Date: July 27th, 2008 6:26 PM Author: Soul-stirring rose gunner titmcr
You just described my sister there. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:18 AM Author: smoky casino juggernaut correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544809) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:18 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace It's too pathetic to be fake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544814) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:22 AM Author: ivory water buffalo TITCR at least i am glad no one is calling me out as flame. i seriously thought no one would believe me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544824) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:23 AM Author: Concupiscible Idea He Suggested you didn't handle it very smoothly. to say THE LEAST. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544826) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 3:43 AM Author: Free-loading Trip Patrolman Athletic Conference Much like yourself, old-man-cockeater. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9080962) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:32 AM Author: orchid meetinghouse rigor "we are hanging out again on saturday.
why can't more girls be like this? THIS is how you turn down a pass, you don't have to go ahead and make the guy asahmed that he has a cock betweeen his legs. my friend was very firm, but she did not make me feel bad or guilty or anything. learn from this girls."
1) you are definitely not hanging out with her again on saturday
2) She thinks you're creepy as fuck
3) the only reason she acted normally after what you did is because she was afraid if she pissed you off you'd rape her.
4) I know you think this is a great experience because you "were a man" by asking to eat her box and she politely declined and there were no repercussions. But it's not. You weren't a man; you were a creepy fucking faggot. You definitely crossed the line from being a man to being a creepy fag. SHe politely declined and acted normal because she had to; she was fucking scared. You will never see her again, ever. YOur relationship won't be the same because you no longer have a relationship.
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 9:19 AM Author: splenetic rehab dysfunction points 1-4 are a mathematical certainty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545080) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 11:53 AM Author: Buff Piazza Seriously, after the "call the cops" line, the first thing she'll be thinking of is rape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545517) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:32 AM Author: vigorous gaping lay OP needs to stop getting his pickup lines from Dateline's "To Catch a Predator". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544845) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:34 AM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace Even that was online. Written. Partially anonymous. Not blurted out to her, out of the blue, by her non-threatening brown friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544850) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 4:00 AM Author: 180 Salmon Tanning Salon Lettuce "see she was talking to me about this loserfuck"
this is obvious pensive flame. nobody else calls anybody a loserfuck or loserfucker. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 7:42 AM Author: Blathering fuchsia library gaming laptop This is flame. If there was such a sudden switch in behavior, there'd be a lot more discussion of how nervous you were at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545017) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:27 AM Author: Alcoholic Bateful Public Bath Clown I actually did something vaguely familiar back in the day. I was at a party and there was this girl that I knew fairly well (but we weren't "friends" and we didnt "hang out" because I am not interested in playing the role of being some sort of creature for a woman to practice her cockteasing on). I walked up to her and said "I'd really like to eat you out. right now. " She said ok. I did so, and we ended up fucking. It was sweet. She then asked that I not tell my girlfriend, who was her friend, because she didn't want her to get mad. I agreed.
Note the vast differences between my story and yours. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:28 AM Author: Pink Rebellious Stage Idiot 141. u r a tool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545247) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 5:03 PM Author: crimson principal's office mood lolol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8546638) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:28 AM Author: fantasy-prone spot laser beams I sincerely hope you are flame. I have read worse on teh internetz though... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545248) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:28 AM Author: talking comical karate The Duty to Warn
University of California (Berkley) campus building In the late 1960s, Prosenjit Poddar, a native of India, attended the University of California at Berkeley and met Tatiana Tarasoff at a dance. He developed a strong romantic interest in her. When they shared a quick New Year's Eve kiss, he believed it was a sign that they were engaged. Yet Tatiana's disinterest confused Poddar, so he persisted in believing that she in fact had feelings for him. He soon suffered an emotional breakdown and attempted to end all contact, but she called him to tell him how much she missed him. His obsessions returned and he believed he would have to kill Tatiana to end them.
Poddar sought outpatient psychiatric services at a hospital in Berkeley. The treating psychiatrist prescribed anti-psychotic medication, and then referred Poddar to a psychologist, Dr. Lawrence Moore, for counseling. Despite their sessions, Poddar persisted in his delusion that Tatiana would eventually love him. To prove his love, he purchased a handgun to orchestrate a life-threatening situation from which he could rescue her. Dr. Moore said that he might have to take steps to restrain Poddar, which sent Poddar angrily from his office.
Dr. Moore discussed this with colleagues and mentioned to the campus police that Poddar was threatening to kill a girl. Officers found him and thought he appeared rational, but eventually Poddar's delusions reached a breaking point. He went to Tatiana's house, armed with a knife and a pellet gun. She ran from him and he shot her and then stabbed her 14 times, killing her. Then he turned himself in. He was convicted of second-degree murder and was released after serving five years.
Yet this case had an impact on the relationship of psychiatry to stalking and violent obsessions. Where once what was said between doctor and patient was privileged, that was about to change.
The Tarasoffs instigated a civil case of negligence against the Regents of the University of California. In 1974, the California Supreme Court found that, despite confidentiality, a duty to warn exists when the therapist determines that a warning is essential to avert a danger rising from the patient's condition.
The mental health profession quickly responded that they have no inherent ability to predict violence and that such a ruling violated their "special" relationship. It would also hinder patients from trusting them, as well as generate false positive predictions as a means of diverting liability. Overall, this would be a detriment.
The court then issued a second opinion. They still found that therapists have a duty to potential victims, but they need only use "reasonable care" to protect the person. That is, the therapist may have to civilly commit or voluntarily hospitalize the patient to avoid the potential for harm, rather than actively warn a potential victim.
Most jurisdictions now recognize a Tarasoff-type duty, but some limit it to situations in which the patient communicates a serious threat of physical violence against an identifiable victim. Standards vary from state to state. However, there is no automatic duty to warn a potential victim, and in fact, issuing a warning has proven ineffective, because more violence has been shown to result after a warning than if no warning is issued. In any event, there are alternatives.
Yet with the advent of the Internet, a new type of anonymous stalking is creating many new dangers that are difficult, if not impossible, to prevent.
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Date: December 28th, 2007 12:24 AM Author: talking comical karate 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9080508) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:31 AM Author: carnelian excitant theatre goal in life This cannot be real. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545261) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:33 AM Author: startling orchestra pit multi-billionaire Date: August 22nd, 2007 2:55 AM Author: Pissed off Desi Shopkeeper (You keep calling me Babu. It's Singh, mother fucker.)
though i certainly intended to flirt with her, i had not seriously considered telling her that i fantasized about eating her out ( which i do) it just came up.
see she was talking to me about this loserfuck ( she actually did call him a loser) she is obsessed with for reasons she herself does not understand. he is some low level officer in the navy while she is off to the peace corps in february. she is obsessed with him but according to her he doesn't give a crap about her, just using her as a convenient booty call. she told me the guy was so vapid and beneath her and low class and emotionally cold and yada yada but that she couldn't stop thinking about him and obsessing over him etc.
she asks me what she should do and i just tell her not to get too emotional or romantic about him, since the peace corps will end all chance for a relationship and probably change the very things she finds attractive in a man.
Now at this point in time i am thinking my friend's attachment to this douche is physical. she is VERY sexual, the relationship she describes sounds like a fuck buddy relationship gone complicated, and in my head i am imagining a buff navy jock.
so i add....." if the fucking is good just use him as a living dildo ..." but the fucking ISN'T good" she exclaims . what to do you mean i ask " he doesn't care about me , even in bed he is a very selfish lover"
Now i am a virgin, but i am pretty aware of what this phrase means. not only that, but i am aware my friend loves to get eaten out, how do i know this? because she has a guide to eating out pussy on her fucking myspace. its literally the first thing you see, and its been there for at least a year.
"so he doesn''t go down on you " i tell her. she looks slightly shocked." well i know you like to get eaten out since you have a guide for it on your myspace"
she starts laughing, but after a bit she looks at me and she sya " i do love it" she says , and blushes. " he never doesit " she complains. well why would he, if he knows he can just fuck you ?
" yeah he doesn't even have to ask we just get alone and im on him,but it sucks every time!"
now this entire conversation i have had my left arm over her shoulders, this conversation has taken place in the form of conspiratorial whispers in each others ears. at this point in time i lean in. " you know that time we went dancing at passion and you had that black skirt on" " yeah" only then did i notice you have great legs ( she laughs) ever since then i have wanted to eat you out,( oh ho! she says) you don't have to do anything ( Noo she says and starts slowlly but firmly pushing me away with both hands) " you don't have to do anything just lie there and enjoy and of course tell me what yu want ( she keeps pushing me slowly away) " i won't even take off my clothes, ill put a cell phone in your hand so you can call the cops if i dosomething you don't want" ( at this point she says my name and says no firmly.)
I look at her for twenty or so seconds and then say " allright" I scoot away so there is a good 30 inches of space separating us. the next couple of minutes are somewhat awkward. but Ten minutes later we are talking like NOTHING happened.
we then continued a series of raucus and interesting conversations, even returning to the navy guy, but also discussing the peace corps the imminent start for law school for me , the craziness of central african nations. we talked for another THREE AND A HALF hours after my very explicit comeon and there was no akwardness or sign of damage to our friendhsip.
we are hanging out again on saturday.
oh and the setting was a small bar/restaurant with these little nooks and such.
and for those who are going to tell me that i came on as desperate and that i am FRIENDZONEPWNED be aware i am already aware of this . i am resigned to my fate. she was never long term girlfriend material and icertainly have no romantic feelings towards her.
she is just a funny supercool latina CGWBT. if all i can be with her is friends ill gladly take the friendship.
why can't more girls be like this? THIS is how you turn down a pass, you don't have to go ahead and make the guy asahmed that he has a cock betweeen his legs. my friend was very firm, but she did not make me feel bad or guilty or anything. learn from this girls.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8544713) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:36 AM Author: talking comical karate Indians basically shouldn't be allowed in society. This reminds me of Tarasoff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545270) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:39 AM Author: splenetic rehab dysfunction you're not the cut and pasting kind of guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545283) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 10:59 AM Author: floppy disrespectful wagecucks faggot firefighter Scary. If a guy friend ever said this to me, I'd never talk to him again and probably get a restraining order. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545340) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 11:09 AM Author: carnelian excitant theatre goal in life It's not really that big a deal, guys from my high school did it all the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545374) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 11:54 AM Author: well-lubricated cracking business firm Subject: In London we are partial to a bit of Orla - especially if the young lady is on her period. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8545519) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 3:06 PM Author: Grizzly church building whoever you are, keep posting, this is one of the better flame threads ive read in awhile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8546117) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 4:36 PM Author: fluffy adulterous market factory reset button I'd like to make a similar offer to my hot, straight friend the next time we're flirting and joking around. Something along the lines of "A lot of women really don't like sucking cock, but gay men live for it. And we swallow, too."
If he says no, I'll just laugh and pretend I was kidding. If he says yes I get a delicious treat and possibly a new fuckbuddy. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 7:42 PM Author: bistre aphrodisiac resort electric furnace Beastly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8547185) |
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Date: October 11th, 2008 12:17 AM Author: Idiotic heady shitlib august '07 poor evan39... |
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Date: August 22nd, 2007 7:51 PM Author: Ruby swashbuckling ratface sadly this was the thread of the day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#8547222) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 12:19 AM Author: glassy rambunctious scourge upon the earth bump for teh lulz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9080489) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 12:25 AM Author: talking comical karate oh shit. this was an old thread? def. deserves 2007 HOF status. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9080512) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 12:43 AM Author: glassy rambunctious scourge upon the earth agreed. whether flame or not, it brought serious lulz. it may be the single most hilarious/pathetic thing I have ever read. |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 2:22 AM Author: Histrionic wine marketing idea i had something similar said to me by a female friend of mine (who i had believed was a lesbian). my reaction was pretty much the same way. we didn't bring it up again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9080797) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 10:01 AM Author: mewling stock car cruise ship WTF? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9081350) |
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Date: December 28th, 2007 10:04 AM Author: Free-loading Trip Patrolman Athletic Conference Some Indian/Latin guy wanted to eat out his friend, but got shot down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#9081364) |
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Date: July 27th, 2008 7:24 PM Author: jade arousing keepsake machete You're damn lucky that she's tolerant of your social errors.
By the way, the fact that a woman tells you about her sexual problems does not mean you have an opening to hit on her. It means she considers you an honorary female friend. |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 8:38 PM Author: Odious Cream Azn Regret "i won't even take off my clothes, ill put a cell phone in your hand so you can call the cops if i dosomething you don't want" ( at this point she says my name and says no firmly.)" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10247902) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 8:42 PM Author: avocado bearded station nibblets how would YOU have responded to a request like this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10247921) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 10:31 PM Author: racy flushed organic girlfriend double fault Feel nauseous, avoid the guy in the future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248319) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 10:47 PM Author: Slap-happy Fortuitous Meteor TITCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248382) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 8:42 PM Author: Titillating native twinkling uncleanness good bump
you're like a stealth A+ poster |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 10:44 PM Author: Provocative Mental Disorder Possibly the most disturbing thing ever posted on xo. Also, great bump, ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248373) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 10:53 PM Author: laughsome garrison sweet tailpipe OMG. How did I miss this. This is truly artful flame. I am in awe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248404) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 11:03 PM Author: buck-toothed elastic band ticket booth I would puke and then call the cops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248426) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 11:11 PM Author: Slap-happy Fortuitous Meteor I think I would just laugh nervously and inch my way away from him and then make quick excuses to leave immediately, and never see him again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248444) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 11:34 PM Author: vivacious old irish cottage how much less-bad than penetrative rape would forced oral be for you? you receive the oral. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248508) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 11:43 PM Author: Slap-happy Fortuitous Meteor I don't think it would be as bad, but it would still be bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248541) |
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Date: October 11th, 2008 12:11 AM Author: buck-toothed elastic band ticket booth What if the guy gives you a cellphone and you can call the police at anytime? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248625) |
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Date: October 11th, 2008 12:30 AM Author: Slap-happy Fortuitous Meteor Can I hit him in the face with it instead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248724) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 11:23 PM Author: Motley Locus Mother this is great - good bump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10248474) |
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Date: October 11th, 2008 6:16 AM Author: impressive stimulating menage tank Wow, in the history of flame, this is truly a magnum opus. I am awestruck.
Thanks for bumping this. |
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Date: October 11th, 2008 7:03 AM Author: cobalt spectacular church To the OP: I'm sorry you had to go through that. Your friend obviously doesn't deserve your selfless love. She is a dumb cunt. No worthy woman would deny such an offer, especially when you mentioned the cops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=675218&forum_id=2#10249723) |