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3L, just discovered the beauty of UNCURVED SEMINARS

I screwed up 2L year. I took only classes that were curved a...
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/07/10
pansy.
twinkling stimulating puppy
  09/07/10
fair enough
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/08/10
What kind of grades did you get? They must not have been tha...
painfully honest cerebral rehab mother
  09/08/10
2L grades were pretty bad man. But they don't really matter....
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/08/10
What is pretty bad?
painfully honest cerebral rehab mother
  09/08/10
Maybe around bottom 20-30%
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/08/10
WTF? Did you study at all? Sounds more like you just didn't ...
painfully honest cerebral rehab mother
  09/08/10
Yeah I didn't study much. But I didn't blow it off either. ...
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/08/10
Sounds like you are making excuses.
Slate motley spot
  09/09/10
Sure, I guess. The point is I should have taken seminars.
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/09/10
Be careful! Not all seminars are easy As. I went to a T10, ...
Fuchsia regret mad cow disease
  09/09/10
Were your 2L grades significantly worse than your 1L grades?
Greedy parlour
  09/07/10
yes
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/08/10
So there was this guy in my lawschool class. He disappeared...
Aphrodisiac lemon striped hyena bawdyhouse
  09/08/10
you've posted this before
twinkling stimulating puppy
  09/08/10
it bears repeating
excitant slap-happy dingle berry giraffe
  09/08/10
...
Sapphire windowlicker useless brakes
  09/08/10
Watchout for seminars taught by new profs or lecturers, who ...
Rusted irate whorehouse
  09/08/10
cr try to take seminars with olds who don't care anymore. t...
mint at-the-ready masturbator
  09/08/10
good point. my profs seem to be very cool with different vie...
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/08/10
damn my school :(
purple hell persian
  09/08/10
except they're not worth that many credits. i'd prefer to ta...
Razzle-dazzle Hall
  09/08/10
you have to do a balance. 2 2 credit classes per semester i...
diverse address
  09/08/10
old profs don't give a fuck about attendance faggot
excitant slap-happy dingle berry giraffe
  09/08/10
Even that's a lot. Too much reading, especially since you'r...
Razzle-dazzle Hall
  09/08/10
oh come now. you guys really can't figure out how to game it...
Sepia disturbing indirect expression
  09/08/10
So far it seems like many seminars have light reading, and y...
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/08/10
Also true.
Sepia disturbing indirect expression
  09/08/10
After 1L classes, there's no set grade distribution at my sc...
painfully honest cerebral rehab mother
  09/08/10
This is not how it works at my school.
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/08/10
1L: under median 3L: Stone Yeah, seminars are the way to...
Sepia disturbing indirect expression
  09/08/10
Yeah, I wish I had discovered seminars, too. I am always a s...
Chartreuse spectacular community account site
  09/08/10
i fucking HATE seminars.... having to actually participate i...
Bat shit crazy national security agency
  09/08/10
I tried this strategy out and ended up in a tightly curved c...
Greedy parlour
  09/08/10
Seminars aren't curved generally. What school do you attend?
painfully honest cerebral rehab mother
  09/08/10
It wasn't a mandatory curve. The prof. was just hardcore abo...
Greedy parlour
  09/08/10
What grade did you get?
painfully honest cerebral rehab mother
  09/08/10
B+
Greedy parlour
  09/08/10
LOL, yea bro, that's just terrible!
painfully honest cerebral rehab mother
  09/08/10
For a non-core upper level class, it really is. That's the s...
Greedy parlour
  09/08/10
Reality!
orchid indian lodge
  09/08/10
You're right. Getting median grades during 2L/3L is back bre...
Greedy parlour
  09/08/10
hahaha youre so full of yourself
mind-boggling water buffalo queen of the night
  09/09/10
My post was hyperbolic, obviously, but it's not much of an e...
Greedy parlour
  09/09/10
Not ITE man.
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/09/10
Slacking is probably a function of placement ITE. My school ...
Greedy parlour
  09/09/10
at our school (at T25), the upper-class seminars are curved ...
wonderful aqua cruise ship
  09/09/10
So a bunch of unemployed people with shitlaw 1L grades who c...
adulterous locus half-breed
  09/09/10
to a certain extent evidence is a far easier class than thos...
wonderful aqua cruise ship
  09/09/10
fair but i'm mocking op's shit
adulterous locus half-breed
  09/09/10
Taking classes to prep for the bar is decidedly NOT prestigi...
Greedy parlour
  09/09/10
If you have shit 1L grades, you've gotta fucking hussle. And...
adulterous locus half-breed
  09/09/10
OP here, I HAVE a job. 1L grades were decent. I just sort of...
Bearded dysfunction heaven
  09/09/10
there's a seminar at our school. it was fully registered. th...
wonderful aqua cruise ship
  09/09/10


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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:54 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

I screwed up 2L year. I took only classes that were curved and more difficult, thinking:

these classes are more useful and interesting

don't care to listen to dipshits opine on broad policy matters

hate writing papers

will just work hard and get good grades anyway

Got bad grades 2L. Still got a job so it's ok, but now as a 3L I'm taking seminars and they are like a fucking dream compared to real classes. These are going to be much easier, many profs give all As, and I don't actually mind all the share-your-thoughts stuff after all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15991974)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:55 PM
Author: twinkling stimulating puppy

pansy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15991987)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:12 AM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

fair enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992166)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 7:02 AM
Author: painfully honest cerebral rehab mother

What kind of grades did you get? They must not have been that bad if you still landed a job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993710)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:18 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

2L grades were pretty bad man. But they don't really matter. 1L and then your summer work is what matters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994836)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:19 PM
Author: painfully honest cerebral rehab mother

What is pretty bad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994849)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:23 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

Maybe around bottom 20-30%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994880)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:24 PM
Author: painfully honest cerebral rehab mother

WTF? Did you study at all? Sounds more like you just didn't give a fuck than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994892)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:29 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

Yeah I didn't study much. But I didn't blow it off either.

The problem was that all my classes were difficult and curved, and the other people in them were all taking only 1 or 2 serious classes, allowing them to pwn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994940)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:03 PM
Author: Slate motley spot

Sounds like you are making excuses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003053)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:04 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

Sure, I guess. The point is I should have taken seminars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003063)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:49 PM
Author: Fuchsia regret mad cow disease

Be careful! Not all seminars are easy As. I went to a T10, and some of the seminar profs did not give easy As (although the majority did).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003328)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:58 PM
Author: Greedy parlour

Were your 2L grades significantly worse than your 1L grades?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992029)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:11 AM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992161)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:00 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac lemon striped hyena bawdyhouse

So there was this guy in my lawschool class. He disappeared after 1l year. Ran into him as a 3l. Asked him what happened. He said his grades sucked first year so he took nothing but seminars for the next two years and was pretty much making straight As

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992073)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:02 AM
Author: twinkling stimulating puppy

you've posted this before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992106)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 5:12 AM
Author: excitant slap-happy dingle berry giraffe

it bears repeating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993673)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:31 AM
Author: Sapphire windowlicker useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992289)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:31 AM
Author: Rusted irate whorehouse

Watchout for seminars taught by new profs or lecturers, who might be looking to reward true believers. Old profs who just teach seminars because they don't give a shit are awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992290)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:18 AM
Author: mint at-the-ready masturbator

cr try to take seminars with olds who don't care anymore. the fkn young profs actually make u work for the A

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992560)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:20 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

good point. my profs seem to be very cool with different viewpoints and more interested in just having a nice discussion than imparting any serious rigor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994853)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:31 AM
Author: purple hell persian

damn my school :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992297)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:23 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Hall

except they're not worth that many credits. i'd prefer to take one 4 credit lecture class instead of two 2 credit seminars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992589)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 5:06 AM
Author: diverse address

you have to do a balance. 2 2 credit classes per semester is probably the right amount. Otherwise you'd need to take like 6 or 7 classes which isn't good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993671)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 5:14 AM
Author: excitant slap-happy dingle berry giraffe

old profs don't give a fuck about attendance faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993674)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:25 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Hall

Even that's a lot. Too much reading, especially since you're usually expected to talk in a small seminar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994903)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:30 PM
Author: Sepia disturbing indirect expression

oh come now. you guys really can't figure out how to game it?

Just read a few pages of the reading and be sure to jump in with that info during class... then go back to web surf mode. Mission accomplished.

Last semester I took 4 seminars. 4 papers was rough at the end, but so much easier than 4 exams. Got ridiculously good grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994946)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:31 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

So far it seems like many seminars have light reading, and you don't even need to do the reading to contribute to the discussion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994959)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:32 PM
Author: Sepia disturbing indirect expression

Also true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994977)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 7:00 AM
Author: painfully honest cerebral rehab mother

After 1L classes, there's no set grade distribution at my school.

Btw, even if your school does curve upper class exams, isn't the curve a B+?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993709)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:22 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

This is not how it works at my school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994871)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:15 PM
Author: Sepia disturbing indirect expression

1L: under median

3L: Stone

Yeah, seminars are the way to go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994814)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:18 PM
Author: Chartreuse spectacular community account site

Yeah, I wish I had discovered seminars, too. I am always a sucker for those "real" classes where you supposedly learn something. My grades 2L year sucked anyway, and I didn't get a SA, so I figure at this point I'm not getting a law job anyway, so it doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994838)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:34 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy national security agency

i fucking HATE seminars.... having to actually participate in these terrible bullshit classes is torture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15995007)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:31 PM
Author: Greedy parlour

I tried this strategy out and ended up in a tightly curved class where 40% of the students were on law review. That ended up being my worst grade of 2L. I'm not going to risk that again. I'm sticking to core classes where I know how to pwn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15995930)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:48 PM
Author: painfully honest cerebral rehab mother

Seminars aren't curved generally. What school do you attend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996035)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:50 PM
Author: Greedy parlour

It wasn't a mandatory curve. The prof. was just hardcore about grading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996042)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:51 PM
Author: painfully honest cerebral rehab mother

What grade did you get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996048)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:52 PM
Author: Greedy parlour

B+

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996051)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:53 PM
Author: painfully honest cerebral rehab mother

LOL, yea bro, that's just terrible!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996056)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:55 PM
Author: Greedy parlour

For a non-core upper level class, it really is. That's the sort of grade I'd get if I took a core class, skipped 100% of the classes, and studied for 5 hours the night before the final.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996077)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 4:01 PM
Author: orchid indian lodge

Reality!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996124)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 4:11 PM
Author: Greedy parlour

You're right. Getting median grades during 2L/3L is back breaking work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996193)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 10:59 AM
Author: mind-boggling water buffalo queen of the night

hahaha youre so full of yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002696)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:50 AM
Author: Greedy parlour

My post was hyperbolic, obviously, but it's not much of an exaggeration. As long as you don't seriously fuck something up on an exam, you're pretty much guaranteed at least a B+. This is especially true during 2L/3L when 1/3 or more of the class has checked out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002966)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:12 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

Not ITE man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003114)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:24 PM
Author: Greedy parlour

Slacking is probably a function of placement ITE. My school is doing okay, so there's still a decent number of students who shoot for a gentleman's B. I imagine there's more competition elsewhere, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003154)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 10:51 AM
Author: wonderful aqua cruise ship

at our school (at T25), the upper-class seminars are curved B+/A-. if there are realy very few people in a seminar (like 5), then the curve might be higher.

nevertheless, upper class exam classes also have noticeably higher curves. so a lot of us do not really go for seminars because they involve much more work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002656)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:52 AM
Author: adulterous locus half-breed

So a bunch of unemployed people with shitlaw 1L grades who couldn't get jerbs are now "gaming" the system by taking even more worthless crap classes that will further disable their ability to find employment, and given their grades probably mean they'll fail the bar when they can't figure out evidence or agency?

My how XO has fallen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002982)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:55 AM
Author: wonderful aqua cruise ship

to a certain extent evidence is a far easier class than those worthless 'crap' class. evidence is not hard to figure out by yourself anyway. some poeple just dont like the curve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003000)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:56 AM
Author: adulterous locus half-breed

fair but i'm mocking op's shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003014)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:56 AM
Author: Greedy parlour

Taking classes to prep for the bar is decidedly NOT prestigious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003013)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:57 AM
Author: adulterous locus half-breed

If you have shit 1L grades, you've gotta fucking hussle. And they shouldn't be trolling XO giving advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003019)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:12 PM
Author: Bearded dysfunction heaven

OP here, I HAVE a job. 1L grades were decent. I just sort of wish I hadn't crashed my 2L GPA by taking no seminars at all, unlike everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003108)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:16 PM
Author: wonderful aqua cruise ship

there's a seminar at our school. it was fully registered. then the prof sent out an email saying that we had to turn in a 3 page paper every week based on the readings. half of the class dropped out. a few people remained.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003129)