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Couldn't you fire "dummy missiles" alongside real ones to overwhelm defenses?

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in the...
slate church
  06/18/25
Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the co...
Exhilarant Avocado Piazza National Security Agency
  06/18/25
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sooty theater pervert
  06/18/25
Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet...
slate church
  06/18/25
What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does...
Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry
  06/18/25
They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket...
Irate alpha
  06/18/25
You can answer the question now
Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry
  06/18/25
So this is actually an idea which people have used. The ide...
Exhilarant Avocado Piazza National Security Agency
  06/18/25
Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.
Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry
  06/18/25
What if they use lawnmower drones?
Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry
  06/18/25
Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then sh...
black nowag
  06/18/25
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slate church
  06/18/25
Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?
vermilion center giraffe
  06/18/25
Yes
Exhilarant Avocado Piazza National Security Agency
  06/19/25
just trebuchet hot boulders
sienna rebellious market boiling water
  06/18/25
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cheese-eating space
  06/18/25
(Bobby Birdshit)
ocher psychic
  06/18/25
Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release ...
fuchsia property pocket flask
  06/18/25
No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and...
Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry
  06/18/25
Man think disabled people have it hard enough
slate church
  06/18/25
This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.
blue background story
  06/19/25


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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: slate church

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in them along with some that do, AA doesn't know the difference. Am I some insanely smart war strategist or what? Why doesn't Iran do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029366)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Exhilarant Avocado Piazza National Security Agency

Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the cost of the rocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029376)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: sooty theater pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029382)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: slate church

Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029414)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry

What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does it still require engineering you can barely fathom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029418)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Irate alpha

They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket. You could just fill the explosives chamber with rocks or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029430)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry

You can answer the question now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029456)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Exhilarant Avocado Piazza National Security Agency

So this is actually an idea which people have used. The idea is to overwhelm the defenses by sending a lot of dumber, low cost munitions, but sending a dummy makes no sense economically. At some point there are not enough anti-missile weapons to stop them all. This is why drones can be effective; send thousands to the same place you can’t shoot them all down (in theory — shoot drones is pretty easy with a gun based defense, but there are range issues).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029477)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry

Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030279)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry

What if they use lawnmower drones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029458)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: black nowag

Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then shoot them out of the real one once it gets close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029498)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: slate church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029596)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: vermilion center giraffe

Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030056)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Exhilarant Avocado Piazza National Security Agency

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49031438)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: sienna rebellious market boiling water

just trebuchet hot boulders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030054)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: cheese-eating space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030068)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: ocher psychic

(Bobby Birdshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029422)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: fuchsia property pocket flask

Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release as they fly over high ADA regions. Supposedly some of the early Russian missile strikes in 2022 included completely inert iskander missiles whose explosive payloads were substituted entirely by decoys. This allowed them to fire volleys and have significantly more decoys to overwhelm air defenses, exactly as you suggested.

https://en.topcor.ru/24483-nyt-uznal-o-zapuskaemyh-rossiej-lozhnyh-celjah-vmeste-s-raketami-iskander-m.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030052)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: Charcoal low-t potus dingle berry

No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and 48 hours later poasters are saying it costs nothing to add a warhead. Guess Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030286)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: slate church

Man think disabled people have it hard enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030291)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: blue background story

This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49031415)