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Cravath yield at Yale: 16 offers, 1 acceptance
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:16 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205148) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:19 AM Author: aqua garrison Cravath is a very good firm. It is not a mistake to go there.
Where did you transfer from/numbers? |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:26 AM Author: khaki unhinged affirmative action sneaky criminal You dont know shit buddy. Dont go dispensing advice on law firms, when you havent even had a law school class yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205422) |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 6:58 PM Author: arousing cuckold base You're obviously really fucking stupid. Have you heard of Vault, big guy? I didn't know 174 had to be in law school to know that Cravath is a good firm. I also didn't know that you have to be in law school to take an interest in firms/law school. Shut up next time, thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#3005043) |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 7:00 PM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown "Have you heard of Vault, big guy?"
Oh, my. |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 9:06 PM Author: arousing cuckold base pwned~! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#3006155) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:20 AM Author: Spruce vivacious theater dysfunction You'll work hard, but it'll make you a better lawyer in whatever specialty you wind up in. I bet you have a pretty good idea what you want to focus on, and that it's something that lends itself to a biglaw practice more than most of your classmates.
And don't worry--if it turns out to not be a great fit, you'd have obscene options if you reinterviewed.
Also, paging GTO? He suggests that poor representation of Yale and Stanford at firms like Cravath implied poorer placement in NYC than Harvard. And, in Stanford's case, Northwestern as well. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:04 AM Author: Smoky National "Also, paging GTO? He suggests that poor representation of Yale and Stanford at firms like Cravath implied poorer placement in NYC than Harvard. And, in Stanford's case, Northwestern as well."
I wasn't pointing to poor placement at Cravath, I was pointing to poor placement at *all* Vault/AmLaw firms in the aggregate. The quality modifier in the rankings didn't have much of an impact at all, except at the extreme margins (ie. statistical ties) the quality/depth rankings ended up being the same as the depth rankings.
In other words, tons of Yalies turning down Cravath for Cleary makes absolutely no difference... A self selection problem only exists if tons of Yalies are turning down Cravath for Jacoby & Meyers or the Personal Injury Hotline.
And fyi, the poorer placement isn't due to their reputations -- the regression analysis on the national employment data makes it *very* clear what's going on here. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:12 AM Author: Spruce vivacious theater dysfunction Okay, I apologize for being down on the study before I've seen it (and I am looking forward to reading it). But what is your conclusion, if it's not reputational? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205386) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:31 AM Author: Smoky National Going to leave that as a surprise for now. However, think about some of the things that differentiate the HYSCCN schools and you'll probably come up with at least one of the variables. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205429) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:32 AM Author: Spruce vivacious theater dysfunction The only obvious thing is geography. But I'm skeptical that it's that big a deal, in terms of options (though not in terms of outcomes). Okay, well I'll wait anxiously.
EDIT: I could also see alumni network. There might be a little more to that. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:37 AM Author: Smoky National I adjusted for region, as well as sectoral preferences.
The significant variables aren't related to student preferences, they're related to the schools themselves. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 11:27 AM Author: Dead Exciting Stage Seems to me that one thing that differentiates the HYSCCN crowd is that they have academic and clerking options not available to the the 7-200 crowd below them. Is that a reason why Yalies are turning down top firms? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206158) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 12:51 PM Author: Smoky National That's sectoral preferences and it's accounted for. Keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of clerks -- even Yale clerks -- go into private practice after their clerkship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206602) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:12 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage GTO--I just glanced at your paper. The bluebooking sucks and will be an obvious hinderance to getting any sort of placement (Epstein and Tribe can get away with bad bluebooking; law students can't). Clean that shit up. Or if you don't know how to, pay someone to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205388) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:29 AM Author: Smoky National I didn't bluebook it yet, the current cites are just placeholders for when I do bluebook it. I'm looking for comments on the substance, not the stylstic form (unless you think sections of text should be converted to footnotes, or new sections added, or something like that). Sorry if I wasn't explicit about this in the email. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205424) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:31 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Ok, I just wanted to make sure you know that a law student piece w/ imperfect bluebooking = autoding.
I just noticed it when I opened the file to make sure it worked. I'll read the substance this weekend. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:33 AM Author: Smoky National Thanks, I really appreciate it. Plan is to get comments, make all the necessary revisions to the substance, then go and do all the bluebooking then. Considering how many citations I've added/removed/altered, I figure spending hours perfectly bluebooking a draft is a waste, better to just do it all at once on the final version. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205437) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:35 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage You can post it here when you've bluebooked it. But before you send it to the journals, I'd seriously have someone check your work (since you're a 1L who probably will make some mistakes). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205439) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:39 AM Author: Smoky National Yeah I definitely will, thanks.
I just hope a journal would find the topic interesting... My big obstacle is that lower ranked schools might not be too interested in this, but without an offer from one of them it'll be extremely hard to be seriously considered by the high ranked schools, who would likely be very interested in this. Ugh. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:39 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Would secondary journals at top schools care? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205451) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:41 AM Author: Smoky National I think there are only one or two secondary journals dealing with education. There are a few labor and employment law journals, but I don't think they'd handle something like this since they seem to just focus on the NLRA and that kind of shit (though I guess if they take email submissions it can't hurt to send it in anyway, since the cost would be $0). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205458) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:42 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage What about generic secondary journals? Do they exist? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205463) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:46 AM Author: Smoky National Doesn't look like any exist:
Seems like all the "general journals" are flagship law reviews, no secondary general journal. All the secondary ones seem to focus on specific topics. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:49 AM Author: Smoky National Speaking of secondary journals, this is the only on-point one that I'd be able to submit to:
The other education journals either require exclusive publication rights (South Carolina) or are peer reviewed and do not allow submissions to other journals (Journal of Legal Education at GULC). |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:54 AM Author: Smoky National Ugh, and it looks like my article might be too long even after all the edits I did:
http://www.law.upenn.edu/labor/new%20website/submissions.html
So far I'm more than double over their word limit. I guess if I gutted the rankings themselves and just focused on what influences employment placement, I might be able to get it to work. Then again, I probably should just not bother since it's probably too much of a tangent for them. Ugh. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:22 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage 120.
A real xfer would never say something like this:
And, I'm a transfer, which means that ZERO members of the actual class of 2006 at Yale accepted offers from Cravath. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:24 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205194) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:27 AM Author: Electric Area Generalized Bond What were your grades at Chicago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205209) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:27 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205215) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:53 PM Author: Galvanic swollen feces why did you leave? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2207299) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:02 PM Author: Lime Digit Ratio Honors=181. Gangsta=184. Not sure what the cut off is for Gangster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2207728) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:29 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Transfers everywhere don't get "introduced" to the class. So you don't talk to any of the 2L/3L folk in class with you besides the transfers? Do you talk to the 3L transfers? What are you going to tell me next--that there are separate transfer classes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205222) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:30 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205226) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:31 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205230) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:32 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Ok, I'm inclined to believe you (unless someone is impostering). FYI, I'd take that down ASAP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205233) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:33 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown yeah, :D must be lurking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205237) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:36 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Also, FYI, I'd change your moniker to something more anonymous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205254) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:38 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown "Ownership Society" is pretty vague. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205267) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:39 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205275) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:41 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Do you want your post sent to every single partner at CSM? People here have done far meaner shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205282) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:44 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205300) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:46 AM Author: grizzly station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205304) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:47 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage What would have been your second choice had you not landed CSM? Why'd you xfer -- do you want to clerk/academe (which UC is great for)?
Yea, but having your name there lessens the possibility of it being a fake. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:57 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205339) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:01 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Look at my moniker and email -- am I someone who has always wanted to be around Bruce and Akhil? Staying at the top is a valid concern, but you'd always be on the review. I assume you can't make YLJ?
Are you from TX, or just thing Susman is cool?
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Date: February 25th, 2005 11:44 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206231) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:24 AM Author: Spruce vivacious theater dysfunction Wow, I drool over Susman. Congrats, sounds like you did really well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205418) |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 7:03 PM Author: Adventurous set roast beef you drool over billing 2500 hours a year?
nice fucking life. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:34 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Maybe this is a problem unique to YLS transfers. What you've experienced as a transfer is clearly not the case at a lot of other top schools. Do you think YLS students are asshole snobs and scorn transfers, or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205242) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:37 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205265) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:40 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Ok, I'm probably blowing your statement out of proportion, then. I guess your experience is as such because YLS is so small. If you go to a huge school like HLS/CLS/NYU you will still not know a ton of people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205277) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:07 AM Author: Spruce vivacious theater dysfunction I transfered undergrad and it took a long time before I felt like I was part of the class. I'd say the transfers here at Stanford would feel similarly to mwallens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205377) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:10 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage SLS is similar to YLS in class size and accepting a relatively few # of xfers.
NYU/CLS would be totally different. There are 400 people per class and like 50 transfers. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:13 AM Author: Spruce vivacious theater dysfunction I think we should take more transfers. A lot more, actually. Transfers are a real loyal bunch. You feel like you've gotten to the promised land and become a really loyal alum. Or at least that was my undergrad experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205394) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:16 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage SLS is too small to do that, though. CLS/NYU expand the class by like 10%. Stanford's class would expand by 30% if they did it similarly.
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:25 AM Author: Jet gay wizard Ten are going to Cleary, not six. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205198) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:27 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205211) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:27 AM Author: Jet gay wizard It is ten. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205216) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:37 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage Why Cleary? Cleary is infested with faggots and ultra-commies. People who wouldn't fit in at a white shoe firm go there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205261) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:03 PM Author: Lime Digit Ratio When I had my Cravath callback, one of my interviews was with an alum of my school, which also historically has had trouble recruiting there. We talked a bit about it and I think agreed that part of the reason was that Cravath had more of a sweatshop reputation than other comparable NYC firms...a reputation this person felt was undeserved, because, according to them, they work no more hours than DPW etc...
The person also mentioned that if you wanted a US attorney job, Cravath was not the feeder, but other firms were, so don't come to Cravath if that is your grand plan. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:47 PM Author: dull pervert international law enforcement agency You're definitely not crazy for going to Cravath. I'm also a YLS 2L, and I've noticed that people here make choices about firms that are quite strange and faddish. Wilmer is this year's big winner; in addition to its NYC crew, it also has another 8 or so YLS folks in DC. It's honestly pretty bizarre that people here prefer Cleary, Debevoise, and Paul Weiss over Cravath and S&C (in NYC); and Wilmer, O'Melveny, and Jenner over W&C, Covington, and Mayer (in DC). The only explanations for the madness are 3Ls' stories about working at their firms, and firms' efforts to raise their YLS profile. Wilmer and OMM, for example, are really really visible--Dellinger gave a talk here in the fall, and Wilmer organized a YLS reception during the ACS convention last summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2208033) |
Date: February 25th, 2005 3:19 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit Well, thank God. The more smart kids, like Yalies, that stay the hell out of my way the better. I hope they all pursue appellate glory arguing about whether men can buttpeck each other and whether I can wipe my arse with the flag.
Cravath money is pretty good and the exit options are supposed to be amazing, assuming you dont make partner. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:23 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown they have only 4 tax partners...
and what do you mean by "amazing exit options"? |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:27 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit Well I didnt say making partner was easy, obviously.
I always hear the Cravath name on a resume opens a ton of doors in many areas. In-house legal work, other law firms, starting your own law firm, going to consulting or banking or other business things, etc. etc. etc. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:28 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown arguments like "cravath provides great exit options" usually sound like arguments of the form "Harvard Law School provides great exit options-- you can transfer down to any school so easily!"
ya dig? |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:34 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit so what? the reality is that not many people will be making partner at cravath. but "transferring down" from there will probably still give a better result than if one had gone to another firm.
and for the people who go into banking/business, maybe they'll make even more than if they'd made partner @ cravath. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:37 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown i just think that talkign generally about whether "exit options" from a given biglaw firm exceed the exit optiosn from another biglaw firm is generally stupid. e.g. the vast majority or cravath litigators would be more or less useless to a corporations in house department. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205260) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:42 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit what's stupid about it? most people at any top biglaw firm will not make partner, for one reason or another. so, it makes good sense to focus on what kind of options each biglaw firm will open up later on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205291) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:43 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown oh, i'm just saying it's so specific to your practice area/client contacts taht generalizations as between *firms* is dumb.
e.g. Thacher Proffitt will provide much better exit options into e.g. the securitization divisions of the top i-banks than will wachtell, since wachtell just doesn't do much of that. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:47 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit yeah that's very true, the whole practice groups thing. but cravath is supposedly pretty strong in almost all their groups, if not the very highest firm.
how about credit markets, especially junk bond trading. any idea if any law firms get involved with the legal end of that? that's been kinda catching my interest lately. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:49 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown Latham & Watkins immediately comes to mind with respect to that.
Find out which firms act as counsel to the banks that issue thsoe securities.
Drexel Burnham Lambert was tops in that, but then they split-- mostly to DLJ-LA, and a few to UBS-LA. DLJ LA became CSFB LA. I think Latham does most of their work.
Therefore, if you want to be a big dick doing junk bond issuances, much better to go to the Latham than e.g. Wachtell. I don't think Cravath does too much of this, but i'm not sure-- i know they do tons of M&A. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:52 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit oh yeah drexel burnham lambert, michael milken and all that. his odd-looking face is on my desk top at the moment!
latham, that's actually the first biglaw firm i ever heard of. they have a chicago office too, i wonder if that office gets involved in low grade bond issues and stuff. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:56 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown i doubt that their chicago office does much of that. you can find out more about that during an interview. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205334) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:00 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit interesting, thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205353) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:49 PM Author: Internet-worthy Multi-colored Hall The vast majority of Drexel's work was done by Irell and Manella--not Latham. Milken's little brother was an associate there before he split to join Milken and then establish his own hedge fun. He maintained close ties to Irell after leaving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2207621) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:45 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage I thought you want to go to WLRK or K&E? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205301) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:46 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown i don't think he knows what he wants, nttiawwt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205305) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:48 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit i just mean the top biglaw firms in general, not necessarily cravath in particular.
never having gone to any of the firms it's pretty hard to say which one i'd pick, given the options. k&e is cool cuz i like chicago though. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:48 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205315) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:49 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage That post is for barzini. He's not even in law school yet he knows he wants to go to one of those two firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205319) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:53 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit you were right the first time, about me not knowing. those are just 2 firms i've heard a lot about and that sound kinda good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205327) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:54 AM Author: ultramarine zippy old irish cottage The chances are that both of them will reject you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205329) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 3:56 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit i have no idea what my chances will be at either one, since i'm not in law school yet. considering how hard they're supposed to be though, yeah, not too many people have good shots. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205332) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:06 AM Author: Comical Scourge Upon The Earth Clown "i have no idea what my chances will be at either one, since i'm not in law school yet."
The fact taht you are not in law school bars you from opining on your chances at getting a job at one of these firms, yet the fact that you are not in law school does not bar you from acting as an expert on various other aspects of legal careers?? |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:19 AM Author: Gaped hissy fit i never said i was an expert. in fact i've often said the opposite. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205408) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 9:26 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone bistre coldplay fan why don't you just go to law school already? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205850) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 11:22 PM Author: Gaped hissy fit uh, hello, acceptances are needed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2210664) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 9:32 AM Author: Concupiscible well-lubricated lodge There's someone at CLS who transferred from Chicago Law. He's a gunner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205856) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 10:27 AM Author: odious market Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Wasn't too sad to see him go, in all honesty.
But I know the OP, if he is who he says he is, and I'm surprised he'd post in such a way. Prove it: post the initials of one of the people you were supposed to live with this year before you bailed for New Haven. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 11:37 AM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206205) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 12:27 PM Author: Supple Public Bath Voyeur Damn, MW, it's you (or a very good imposter). How you liking things? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206433) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 12:49 PM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206585) |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 8:03 PM Author: Wonderful elite karate god damn, I can't wait! Posts like that make me so excited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#3005663) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 10:31 AM Author: Trip giraffe Hey mwallens, your story reminds of what happened with Columbia and Cravath in the mid-90's. A bunch of the Columbia law review staff working at Cravath one summer had a horrible experience, spread the word about their dissatisfaction, and in the following year Cravath was not able to recruit anyone from Columbia. Obviously, Cravath has repaired its reputation with Columbia since then, but something similar might be happening with Yale. Peer assessments have a strong influence on people's decisionmaking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205964) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 10:32 AM Author: transparent bull headed stage people are dodging sweatshops like Cravath until they start ponying up the dough. Who wants to work 10 more hours a week for the same salary as SF, LA, Chicago, or DC? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205965) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 10:34 AM Author: Razzle resort crotch It seems very possible, if not likely, that people accepting 2L offers from NYC biglaw will be seeing higher base salaries from at least some NYC firms in the next year or two. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205971) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 10:38 AM Author: transparent bull headed stage I don't think anyone wants to count on that until they see some proof. Cravath should have raised base years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2205983) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 11:47 AM Author: sadistic office jewess What the fuck is it with Wilmer?
We sent like 4 or 5 people there this past summer, and everyone who had an offer took it, turning down W&C among others.
What's the deal? |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 11:51 AM Author: transparent bull headed stage three words: unlimited free blowjobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206268) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 11:56 AM Author: Trip giraffe I obviously chose to work at the wrong place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206285) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 11:59 AM Author: transparent bull headed stage yup. it is amazing. you will see Wilmer mentioned in the same breath with Watchtell soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206301) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 12:27 PM Author: french telephone Mwallens -
On the interview circuit, did you meet any Chicago grads who seemed offended (perhaps that's too strong of a word) by your decision to transfer? |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 12:48 PM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2206563) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 1:17 PM Author: cyan boyish home Hey MW,
I'm going to be a 1L at YLS this fall. I'm not really interested in academia or clerking at all, and it seems like that isn't your path either. That said, do you find it a bit suffocating over there, and are you able to have your needs/interests met?
Thanks. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 1:27 PM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch
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Date: February 25th, 2005 1:57 PM Author: Lime Digit Ratio Congrats on Susman, I know someone headed there as well.
What was the Susman yield at YLS? Did many interview there? |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 2:51 PM Author: ruddy soul-stirring brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2207291) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:41 PM Author: salmon mind-boggling location mwallens - where are the other YLS transfers from? I heard there's one from GW and one from Emory. Do you know what their class rank was?
I'm just curious since I applied and was rejected as a transfer. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:55 PM Author: Lime Digit Ratio What was your class rank? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2208098) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 4:56 PM Author: salmon mind-boggling location Numero uno. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2208109) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 5:18 PM Author: Lime Digit Ratio and you got dinged? damn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2208312) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 6:21 PM Author: Supple Public Bath Voyeur Hey, MWallens, same is true at Chicago.... even though the "yield" was higher than one, Cravath had to go pretty deep into the class to get people. No L.Rev'ers at CSM from the U of C.
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Date: February 25th, 2005 10:35 PM Author: Apoplectic nursing home How deep? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2210427) |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 10:49 PM Author: odious market People are pretty tight-lipped about grades here, but I'm pretty sure bottom 50%. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#2210503) |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 7:08 PM Author: Adventurous set roast beef bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#3005146) |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 9:10 PM Author: Shivering School Cafeteria People Who Are Hurt a little slow? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#3006194) |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 9:46 PM Author: frozen abnormal native I believe this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#3006487) |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 9:48 PM Author: spectacular costumed rehab actually i hear the same is true for all of ccn. sorry.
at any rate i cannot see why anyone would want to work there in the first place. |
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Date: February 25th, 2005 11:21 PM Author: Sapphire main people reading party I'm at Fordham right now. Fordham definitely had one kid with the initials "J.C." transfer to Harvard.
Another Fordham Law student transferred to Yale either last summer or the summer before. Do you know that person, M.Wallens? |
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Date: June 13th, 2005 9:11 PM Author: Floppy macaca Congrats, man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&forum_id=2#3006206) |