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Male Sexlessness is Rising But Not for the Reasons Incels Claim

https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-no...
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Female obesity Epidemic
Carnelian meetinghouse
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Haha weird how the chart shows a large percentage of married...
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odd case
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very interesting
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Seems very peculiar
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here is this guy and his wifebeast: https://missionofchri...
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They're equally ugly, what's your point.
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She not dat bad
infuriating bateful point antidepressant drug
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She’s pretty bad—he’s basically an incel h...
Provocative principal's office ratface
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DAT not so subtle redefining of "incel" as "g...
idiotic messiness
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He's severely bald and she's got a yuuge nose. They match.
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she also has a weird chin and there are hints she may be fat...
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everyone of either sex believing they deserve an 8 is exactl...
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Strong chin, but you're right
talking nubile senate
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yup. they both look fine. LOL @ the overly critical azns scr...
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Lol at his exposed green v neck undershirt. What a cretin.
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as proof that women just whore it up with chad, i'll provide...
idiotic messiness
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"Many incels quote a rule of thumb that 20% of men have...
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Lol, he really showed them the actual data
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That'll shut them up.
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"the sex"
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was about the post this. hilarious. what a schmuck. "...
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so basically the sexual economy is better for incels than th...
idiotic messiness
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Cordovan Tanning Salon
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anyone know what the stat looks like for women? how slutty a...
Cordovan Tanning Salon
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"The rise of young male sexlessness isn’t about C...
Grizzly office gay wizard
  07/29/19
men would have more/better jobs if women weren't taking them
Stimulating copper striped hyena
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This is one of GC's greatest achievements
Umber circlehead
  07/29/19
what jobs that women are doing today do men want to have?
talking nubile senate
  07/29/19
low iq schtick? there are 2x as many ppl in the work force s...
Umber circlehead
  07/29/19
still plenty of jobs with gender roles like receptionist, HR...
talking nubile senate
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flame? tons of men working absolute shitjobs would be elate...
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Umber circlehead
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/04/upshot/why-men-dont-want-...
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a middle-aged man who busted his body in a tough field doesn...
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ty for the tip, will flame harder next time
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yep, (((they))) say there's nothing to see here
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Risk at megacorp is dominated by women
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"It’s mostly about people spending more years in ...
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I haven't seen a real live vag since 97
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What's working at a morgue like
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...
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Me neither (I was born in 97)
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What's wrong with being sexy?
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I want to know how many poasters got this incredible referen...
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Burst out laughing
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The big unstated assumption here is that the cohort of exces...
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To be fair, men have access on demand as well. It's called a...
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which is better/cheaper than shrew in most cases mgtow
Vermilion cerebral psychic temple
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Well, it depends on what one ultimately wants. If a guy is j...
Impressive vengeful shitlib
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unless you're severely deformed and have no social skills, y...
idiotic messiness
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the "incels only want a 9" meme is such absurd fla...
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Link to a 4. Trying to figure out if anyone would want one.
Ebony judgmental incel
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Yeah it’s crazy how much the boomer establishment mind...
180 smoky kitchen
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no, in previous generations that's the portion of the popula...
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None of this makes sense. If a guy needs to get laid, just g...
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(guy who doesn’t get it)
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If we're solely talking about getting sex and nothing else, ...
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"validated, organic, intimacy" let's here more ...
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http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4301174&mc=39&am...
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TC married a match.com bride
Passionate doctorate
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Purchasing a hooker has no effect on involuntary celibacy
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If you get a hooker, you get laid. This means you're having ...
Impressive vengeful shitlib
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Glad we agree the incel remains an incel despite purchasing ...
Misanthropic Box Office
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The problem with the term is that sex shouldn't be the main ...
Impressive vengeful shitlib
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Hookers aren’t people. Having sex requires another per...
beady-eyed useless halford
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No. If your dick is in someones pussy, ass, or mouth and the...
Impressive vengeful shitlib
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?
beady-eyed useless halford
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I edited.
Impressive vengeful shitlib
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Orthogonal and nonresponsive to my statement
beady-eyed useless halford
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Your conclusion that hookers are not people is false.
Impressive vengeful shitlib
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You’re wrong
beady-eyed useless halford
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What is with all these “studies” with their stup...
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Many incels quote a rule of thumb that 20% of men have 80% o...
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now what happens if you remove the men in relationships
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Lol they need to measure the top 4% of men and observe that ...
180 smoky kitchen
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So true, being a a 6’3 230lb roid head with an educati...
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ok if we're going to treat "beta provider" as appl...
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The whole point of this thread is that hypergamy means that ...
180 smoky kitchen
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I've done two a days many times. When I was taking it easy.
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this article was way more ridiculously bad than i thought it...
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Lyman Stone has truly truly awful opinions on everything.
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U forgot Female Obesity Epidemic u dumb fuck
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"why does this guy think that 20% of men having 60% of ...
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My brother is an 8.5. Even he struggles on Tinder with the w...
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Not a chance your brother is damn near a 9 and has shit resu...
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CR. I'm an 7 and I've fucked half a dozen women this year ...
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Yeah, you’re slaying 5s.
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Ooff
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You're a fraud, FATCEP.
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(dude who is attracted to his own brother)
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"my brother can't get pussy on a cell phone app so it m...
idiotic messiness
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you're a faggot. hth.
Talented elastic band
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The guy makes some dumb conclusions. But these studies show...
Painfully Honest Selfie State
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What this plus the ok Cupid et. al. studies show pretty defi...
180 smoky kitchen
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Hehehe
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I fucked my wyfe 4 times today - not flame
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Do you feel satisfied? How big of a chore was it?
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Date: July 29th, 2019 7:50 AM
Author: infuriating bateful point antidepressant drug

https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604547)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:14 PM
Author: Carnelian meetinghouse

Female obesity Epidemic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605895)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 7:59 AM
Author: topaz lay

Haha weird how the chart shows a large percentage of married men are in a sexless marriage, but almost no married women claim to be in a sexless marriage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604559)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:01 AM
Author: sadistic market nibblets

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604561)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:54 AM
Author: Wonderful nofapping church



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:35 PM
Author: Vibrant blathering corner faggot firefighter

very interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605993)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:57 PM
Author: Free-loading Balding Coffee Pot

Seems very peculiar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606485)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:16 PM
Author: Lime magical mediation

hmmmmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609026)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 1:37 AM
Author: charcoal electric personal credit line stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609540)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 2:09 AM
Author: Cordovan Tanning Salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609586)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:08 AM
Author: deranged sable set double fault

here is this guy and his wifebeast:

https://missionofchrist.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/images_stones.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604565)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:14 AM
Author: Fragrant den

They're equally ugly, what's your point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604579)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:39 AM
Author: Costumed voyeur



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:21 AM
Author: infuriating bateful point antidepressant drug

She not dat bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604590)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:18 PM
Author: Provocative principal's office ratface

She’s pretty bad—he’s basically an incel himself; who would want to bang her out on the reg?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605918)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:12 PM
Author: idiotic messiness

DAT not so subtle redefining of "incel" as "gets sex just not constantly"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608296)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:45 AM
Author: Angry curious abode dysfunction

He's severely bald and she's got a yuuge nose. They match.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605076)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:52 AM
Author: deranged sable set double fault

she also has a weird chin and there are hints she may be fat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605104)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:42 AM
Author: Passionate doctorate

everyone of either sex believing they deserve an 8 is exactly why there are so many incels

this chick is completely average and non-offensive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605435)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:42 PM
Author: Excitant cream chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606404)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:45 PM
Author: talking nubile senate

Strong chin, but you're right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606423)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:48 PM
Author: Harsh casino

yup. they both look fine. LOL @ the overly critical azns scrutinizing this pic like Shallow Hal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606435)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:01 PM
Author: Thirsty yarmulke theater stage

Lol at his exposed green v neck undershirt. What a cretin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605835)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:12 PM
Author: idiotic messiness

as proof that women just whore it up with chad, i'll provide a link to a properly sorted pairing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608292)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:26 AM
Author: Stimulating copper striped hyena

"Many incels quote a rule of thumb that 20% of men have 80% of the sex. Is this true?"

"It turns out, the answer is no."

"[T]he top 20% of the most sexually active never-married young men have about 50-60% of the sex."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604600)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:39 AM
Author: Transparent exciting heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604627)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:40 AM
Author: Sooty Hairy Legs

Lol, he really showed them the actual data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604631)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:42 AM
Author: Ebony judgmental incel

That'll shut them up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604637)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:53 AM
Author: cobalt arrogant forum private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605491)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:58 PM
Author: Wonderful nofapping church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606494)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:17 PM
Author: Lime magical mediation



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:24 AM
Author: Misanthropic Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604743)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:47 AM
Author: Buck-toothed brunch



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:05 AM
Author: Stimulating copper striped hyena



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:08 AM
Author: Carnelian meetinghouse



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:32 AM
Author: Racy sound barrier garrison

"the sex"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605021)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:42 AM
Author: slap-happy thriller depressive pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605062)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:10 AM
Author: Stimulating copper striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605210)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:43 AM
Author: overrated violent school cafeteria tank

rupinder!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605441)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 3:01 AM
Author: Amethyst parlour



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:45 AM
Author: Angry curious abode dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605078)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 12:58 PM
Author: Provocative principal's office ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605820)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:03 PM
Author: Heady site puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605840)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:14 PM
Author: Chartreuse area

was about the post this. hilarious. what a schmuck.

"Measuring the number of partners instead of sexual frequency, the top 20% most promiscuous men account for about 60% of male sexual partnerings"

way to disprove the incels, Lyman!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605893)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:13 PM
Author: idiotic messiness

so basically the sexual economy is better for incels than the actual economy is for your average xoer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608303)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 2:08 AM
Author: Cordovan Tanning Salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609580)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 2:13 AM
Author: Cordovan Tanning Salon

anyone know what the stat looks like for women? how slutty are the sluttiest 20%?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609599)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:51 AM
Author: Grizzly office gay wizard

"The rise of young male sexlessness isn’t about Chads and Stacies; it isn’t primarily about Tinder or Bumble; it’s not mostly about attitudinal shifts in what women want from relationships; and it’s not mainly about some new war between the sexes. It’s mostly about people spending more years in school and spending more years living at home. But that’s not actually a story about some change in sexual politics; instead, it’s a story about the modern knowledge economy, and to some extent exorbitant housing costs. As such, it’s no surprise that rising sexlessness is being observed in many countries. This, in turn, suggests that finding a solution to help young people pair up may not be as easy."

this is actually a fair point. young men, on whom it is often culturally the burden to be the 'gentleman' and pick up the tab or pick up the girl in his car or whatever, are a lot poorer than ever before. student loan debt and skyrocketing housing costs, etc. (which in turn ties into shitty high stress lifestyles and diets, which feeds into shittier physiques and energy levels, etc.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604646)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:55 AM
Author: Stimulating copper striped hyena

men would have more/better jobs if women weren't taking them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604659)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:42 AM
Author: Umber circlehead

This is one of GC's greatest achievements

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605432)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:46 PM
Author: talking nubile senate

what jobs that women are doing today do men want to have?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606429)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 3:01 PM
Author: Umber circlehead

low iq schtick? there are 2x as many ppl in the work force so wages are suppressed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606515)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 3:05 PM
Author: talking nubile senate

still plenty of jobs with gender roles like receptionist, HR, PR, marketing, exec assistant, nurse, that men don't want to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606538)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:33 PM
Author: Hateful turdskin

flame? tons of men working absolute shitjobs would be elated to do those, but a lot of them are gated behind a college degree now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608724)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:52 PM
Author: Umber circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609179)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 1:15 AM
Author: talking nubile senate

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/04/upshot/why-men-dont-want-the-jobs-done-mostly-by-women.html

Of the fastest-growing jobs, many are various types of health aides, which are about 90 percent female. When men take these so-called pink-collar jobs, they have more job security and wage growth than in blue-collar work, according to recent research. But they are paid less and feel stigmatized.

Take Tracy Dawson, 53, a welder in St. Clair, Mo. He lost several jobs, some because his employers took the work to China and Mexico and others because the workers were replaced by robots. He has heard the promises of fast-growing jobs in the health care field: His daughter trained to be a medical technician. But he never considered it.

“I ain’t gonna be a nurse; I don’t have the tolerance for people,” he said. “I don’t want it to sound bad, but I’ve always seen a woman in the position of a nurse or some kind of health care worker. I see it as more of a woman’s touch.”

Also, health aides earn a median wage of $10.50 an hour. Mr. Dawson used to earn $18 an hour making railroad traction motors. “I was a welder — that’s all I know how to do,” said Mr. Dawson, who is living on disability insurance because he has rheumatoid arthritis.

One reason is that jobs done by women, especially caregiving jobs, have always had lower pay and lower status. Yet when men, especially white men, enter female-dominated fields, they are paid more and promoted faster than women, a phenomenon known as the glass escalator.

Much of men’s resistance to pink-collar jobs is tied up in the culture of masculinity, say people who study the issue. Women are assumed to be empathetic and caring; men are supposed to be strong, tough and able to support a family.

“Traditional masculinity is standing in the way of working-class men’s employment, and I think it’s a problem,” said Andrew Cherlin, a sociologist and public policy professor at Johns Hopkins and author of “Labor’s Love Lost: The Rise and Fall of the Working-Class Family in America.”

“We have a cultural lag where our views of masculinity have not caught up to the change in the job market,” he said.

But telling working-class men to take feminine jobs plays to their anxieties and comes off as condescending, said Joan Williams, a law professor at U.C. Hastings and author of “Reshaping the Work-Family Debate: Why Men and Class Matter.”

“White working-class men’s wages have plummeted, and what happens to men in that context is anxieties about whether they’re ‘real men,’ ” she said.

lol they found a man named Tracy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609479)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 1:25 AM
Author: Hateful turdskin

a middle-aged man who busted his body in a tough field doesn't feel like spending years retraining (getting a degree) to take almost a 50% paycut. definitely just sex roles here.

gotta be a little bit more subtle with your flame, at least in the early stages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609510)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 1:47 AM
Author: talking nubile senate

ty for the tip, will flame harder next time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609552)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 1:48 AM
Author: Umber circlehead

yep, (((they))) say there's nothing to see here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609555)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 7:37 AM
Author: dun reading party

Risk at megacorp is dominated by women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609983)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: Lime magical mediation

"It’s mostly about people spending more years in school"

That makes sense. No one has sex while in school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609035)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:54 AM
Author: rebellious spot friendly grandma

I haven't seen a real live vag since 97

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604651)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:21 AM
Author: lake round eye

What's working at a morgue like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604724)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 7:10 AM
Author: indigo digit ratio national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609928)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 5:08 AM
Author: Pungent Gaped Indian Lodge

Me neither (I was born in 97)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609727)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:54 AM
Author: orange swashbuckling lodge tattoo

What's wrong with being sexy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604654)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:51 AM
Author: federal aromatic jap crackhouse

I want to know how many poasters got this incredible reference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605481)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:54 AM
Author: bossy drab scourge upon the earth

Burst out laughing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604656)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:58 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle cocky skinny woman

The big unstated assumption here is that the cohort of excess unmarried men, who in previous generations would have been married by now, will eventually at some point get married and have sex at the rate married men do. This is almost certainly not the case; online dating has crowded out all other form of meeting people, and success online is almost entirely about height, race, and facial phenotype. The guys who are consistently rejected by every woman in their metro area aren't going to magically find one who wants to marry them at 35; they're going to spend their lives alone and incel. Similarly situated women will, of course, always have access to sex on demand, but may not be interested in marrying anybody who actually wants to marry them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604664)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:13 AM
Author: Impressive vengeful shitlib

To be fair, men have access on demand as well. It's called a hooker/escort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604703)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:17 AM
Author: Vermilion cerebral psychic temple

which is better/cheaper than shrew in most cases

mgtow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604715)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:20 AM
Author: Impressive vengeful shitlib

Well, it depends on what one ultimately wants. If a guy is just looking to pound some ass from the back and drop a load, going the hooker route makes total sense.

However, if a guy is looking for a serious relationship, obviously, the hooker route will not satisfy that craving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604722)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:14 PM
Author: idiotic messiness

unless you're severely deformed and have no social skills, you'll find someone for a serious relationship if you actually put in the work

the problem is you incels think you deserve a 9/10 and reject the 4s who match you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608306)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 2:54 AM
Author: Slimy startling kitty cuckold

the "incels only want a 9" meme is such absurd flame. incels want something much rarer than a 9: a woman who actually values them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609647)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 5:48 AM
Author: Ebony judgmental incel

Link to a 4. Trying to figure out if anyone would want one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609780)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:29 AM
Author: 180 smoky kitchen

Yeah it’s crazy how much the boomer establishment minds resist acknowledging the specific negative impacts of a culture built for shut-ins/the depressed and isolated/everyone’s chins being on chests constantly staring at phones. Take it from those of us who actually grew up with, maintain friendships with, live near and work with incels. These people aren’t going to magically find Mrs Right in their 40s. In order for them to accept their lot in life they will need massive amounts of mental health services/treatment that they are near certain to avoid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605002)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:58 AM
Author: Submissive Space Chad

no, in previous generations that's the portion of the population we sent off to fight wars. but we don't fight wars anymore, hence this deviation from past statistical norms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605513)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:09 AM
Author: Impressive vengeful shitlib

None of this makes sense. If a guy needs to get laid, just go get a hooker.

Is this really this difficult to figure out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604694)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:21 AM
Author: beady-eyed useless halford

(guy who doesn’t get it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604731)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:24 AM
Author: Impressive vengeful shitlib

If we're solely talking about getting sex and nothing else, a guy can get laid pretty much whenever he wants. However, if we're talking about being validated, organic intimacy, or a serious relationship, that's a different story.

The problem with many of these discussions is that they keep referring to sex when that's not really what an incel is truly after.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604744)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:18 PM
Author: Vermilion cerebral psychic temple

"validated, organic, intimacy"

let's here more about this from Muscadine Wine, Thunder Collins, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605922)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:53 PM
Author: talking nubile senate

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4301174&mc=39&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606465)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:55 PM
Author: Passionate doctorate

TC married a match.com bride

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606475)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:27 AM
Author: Misanthropic Box Office

Purchasing a hooker has no effect on involuntary celibacy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604762)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:28 AM
Author: Impressive vengeful shitlib

If you get a hooker, you get laid. This means you're having sex and therefore not celibate. What an incel is looking for is actually not sex, however. He's looking for validation and possibly a relationship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604769)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:30 AM
Author: Misanthropic Box Office

Glad we agree the incel remains an incel despite purchasing sex

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604774)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:33 AM
Author: Impressive vengeful shitlib

The problem with the term is that sex shouldn't be the main focus here...it's validation they're looking for, not sex.

The only folks who are truly involuntary celibate are dudes in solitary confinement at a prison or something. Heck, even a 5'6 320 pound dude who makes $7.25/hr can get a streetwalker for $35 and have sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604781)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:33 AM
Author: beady-eyed useless halford

Hookers aren’t people. Having sex requires another person being involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604783)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:34 AM
Author: Impressive vengeful shitlib

No. If your dick is in someones pussy, ass, or mouth and they're allowing you in that space, you're having sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604785)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:34 AM
Author: beady-eyed useless halford

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604787)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:36 AM
Author: Impressive vengeful shitlib

I edited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604793)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:36 AM
Author: beady-eyed useless halford

Orthogonal and nonresponsive to my statement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604796)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:38 AM
Author: Impressive vengeful shitlib

Your conclusion that hookers are not people is false.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604801)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:55 AM
Author: beady-eyed useless halford

You’re wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604860)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:38 AM
Author: multi-colored cruel-hearted queen of the night keepsake machete

What is with all these “studies” with their stupid line graphs? Seems like every two-horse organization out there is pumping out these useless “studies”.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604803)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:52 AM
Author: indecent toaster parlor

Many incels quote a rule of thumb that 20% of men have 80% of the sex. Is this true?

It turns out, the answer is no. And of course, it isn’t! Imagine how much sex those 20% of men would have to be having! A substantial share would need to be doing two-a-days on a regular basis to maintain that kind of share. In reality, according to the GSS, the top 20% of the most sexually active never-married young men have about 50-60% of the sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38604846)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:32 AM
Author: bright outnumbered church building electric furnace

now what happens if you remove the men in relationships

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605019)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:36 AM
Author: 180 smoky kitchen

Lol they need to measure the top 4% of men and observe that this cohort, especially the unmarrieds, are consuming 40% of the total available fucks, and doing two and sometimes three a days, while the 5th-20th% just get their 1:1 allotment I.e. they are beta providers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605042)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:07 PM
Author: Bespoke philosopher-king

So true, being a a 6’3 230lb roid head with an education is heaven on earth in the modern dating world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605858)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:17 PM
Author: idiotic messiness

ok if we're going to treat "beta provider" as applied to married men as a pejorative, then the term has lost all rhetorical thrust, because you're degrading the most manly thing you can do, which is marry under the eyes of God and raise children who contribute to society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608320)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 6:53 AM
Author: 180 smoky kitchen

The whole point of this thread is that hypergamy means that fewer men get the chance to do exactly that, and the “study” in the OP is completely oblivious to this fact. We’ve prioritized the sorting functionality available to women to maximize their outcomes, especially their ability to access top 4% short term mate selection men, and we’ve also removed all economic deterrents and have subsidized and culturally celebrated women who shit on a lifestyle that prioritizes family, marriage and motherhood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609888)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 3:06 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Selfie State

I've done two a days many times. When I was taking it easy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606548)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:56 AM
Author: hairraiser masturbator

this article was way more ridiculously bad than i thought it would be. this may be the worst take on the "incel" epidemic that i have ever seen

why does this 105 IQ idiot think that the increase of unmarried incels and the large drop in marriage rates are 2 separate phenomenons? why does this guy think that 20% of men having 60% of sexual encounters is drastically different from 20% of men having 80% of sexual encounters?

this dude basically wrote up an entire article validating everything that internet incels believe, but instead acts like his essay is "debunking" these same claims. really bizarre. however bad the "incel" epidemic is for society, it can't possibly be as bad as the epidemic of unqualified "journalists" 24/7 vomiting up volumes of retarded takes on stuff they don't understand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605127)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 10:59 AM
Author: Misanthropic Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605146)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:43 AM
Author: Passionate doctorate

Lyman Stone has truly truly awful opinions on everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605442)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:00 PM
Author: Provocative principal's office ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605827)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:05 PM
Author: flushed boiling water dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605845)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:14 PM
Author: Carnelian meetinghouse

U forgot Female Obesity Epidemic u dumb fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605890)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 2:55 AM
Author: dashing ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609648)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 7:27 AM
Author: Ebony judgmental incel

"why does this guy think that 20% of men having 60% of sexual encounters is drastically different from 20% of men having 80% of sexual encounters?"

It reads like those fact checking cites when they apply literal readings to rhetorical flourishes or figurative language.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609969)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 11:56 AM
Author: federal aromatic jap crackhouse

My brother is an 8.5. Even he struggles on Tinder with the women all fighting for the 10. He’s dating a 6.5, intentionally, because he says it’s just not worth the hassle of dating someone really good looking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605499)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:14 PM
Author: Bespoke philosopher-king

Not a chance your brother is damn near a 9 and has shit results on tinder. I’m an objective 8 who’s damn near 40 and murder the game on tinder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605891)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 1:35 PM
Author: Angry curious abode dysfunction

CR. I'm an 7 and I've fucked half a dozen women this year and I've barely tried.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38605995)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:33 PM
Author: federal aromatic jap crackhouse

Yeah, you’re slaying 5s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606359)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 3:30 PM
Author: Provocative principal's office ratface

Ooff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606682)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 3:38 PM
Author: rusted elite people who are hurt telephone

You're a fraud, FATCEP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606713)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: 180 smoky kitchen

(dude who is attracted to his own brother)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606449)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:16 PM
Author: idiotic messiness

"my brother can't get pussy on a cell phone app so it must be impossible for TTTs who actually meet women in social settings like literally all of recorded history"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608313)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:16 PM
Author: Talented elastic band

you're a faggot. hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608317)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 3:05 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Selfie State

The guy makes some dumb conclusions. But these studies show what I've been saying for years. The increase in inceldom isn't due to Chads getting more women. It's due to incels getting fewer women and there being less sex in general. The modern world is a sick place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38606541)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 6:59 AM
Author: 180 smoky kitchen

What this plus the ok Cupid et. al. studies show pretty definitively is that essentially all women, regardless of their own actual sexual market value, really only want sex with top 4% guys. I.e. that sex with any guy who is not viewed by all women as having high mate selection value is worthless, because women’s brains have been hard-wired for over 200k years for competition for scarce recourses and status symbols.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609903)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 8:33 PM
Author: razzmatazz bawdyhouse legal warrant

Hehehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608109)



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Date: July 29th, 2019 9:12 PM
Author: Talented elastic band

I fucked my wyfe 4 times today - not flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38608298)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 2:55 AM
Author: Fragrant den

Do you feel satisfied? How big of a chore was it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4312228&forum_id=2#38609650)