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Didn't get job; giving up on law; contemplating killself
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:39 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048166) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:46 PM Author: Orange Autistic Principal's Office Love Of Her Life oh hi me.
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:37 PM Author: Bossy slimy casino useless brakes literally in the same situation (well I didn't just end a clerkship, but I just got a ding letter today and have been thinking about suicide more than I ever have in my life) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049066) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:42 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum suicide takes balls. you'll probably just end up a whiney faggot who lives at home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049116) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:56 PM Author: Bossy slimy casino useless brakes more true than you know (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049224) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:09 AM Author: Claret marketing idea orchestra pit things will be a lot better in 18 months nilla - don't killself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052176) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:28 AM Author: lemon sinister indian lodge oh really? where are you getting this from (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052229) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:47 AM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052270) |
Date: January 13th, 2011 7:42 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy brethren background story hey man don't killself brah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048186) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:43 PM Author: olive hospital gunner Get a PHD in math, mang. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048190) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:51 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048251) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:52 PM Author: olive hospital gunner Where are you located? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048262) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:22 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048468) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:09 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman plz share this script w/ others (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048851) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:32 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049020) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:56 PM Author: Arousing trailer park jew this is the nuclear option for this board. make it public and this dies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049226) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:44 PM Author: Multi-colored crimson really tough guy garrison what region/market? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048199) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:50 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048246) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:53 PM Author: Multi-colored crimson really tough guy garrison Sorry d00der. Maybe spend some time backpacking in Big Bend on soul searching journey? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048264) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:22 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048471) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:46 PM Author: Milky Abode Tank med school bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048208) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:52 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048255) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:53 PM Author: Milky Abode Tank it's not too late man
i know several people who finished residency in their 40s
plus u got a sugar momma rite |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:54 PM Author: Multi-colored crimson really tough guy garrison true
you have to stay for 6 years for her anyway... |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:58 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048314) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:46 PM Author: Charismatic State get an MS or PhD in applied math or statistics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048210) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:55 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048288) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:51 PM Author: Charismatic State PhD programs, probably. MS programs, probably not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048692) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:07 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048835) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:46 PM Author: Flesh Property Mad Cow Disease inb4 foot fetish shitck (podiatry bro) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048216) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:48 PM Author: Multi-colored crimson really tough guy garrison just do it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048223) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:51 PM Author: Flesh Property Mad Cow Disease don't recommend it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048247) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:53 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048268) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 7:55 PM Author: Milky Abode Tank they won't be laughing when you're Dr. Greetings brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048286) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:34 PM Author: ruddy cuckold center but they will laugh when he ends up in pediatrics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048560) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:51 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048695) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:04 PM Author: Aphrodisiac abusive piazza stock car Go solo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048361) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:22 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048474) |
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Date: January 25th, 2011 1:25 PM Author: turquoise swashbuckling shitlib corner "I'll even suck him off bigincest style every day."
ITE, you don't think he's already got people lining up to do that? |
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Date: December 20th, 2011 12:02 PM Author: Blue exciting locus selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#19603006) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:06 PM Author: adventurous soggy alpha resort what level clerkship was it?
Can your judge really not help out at all?
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:23 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048484) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:24 PM Author: hyperventilating circlehead currently in middle of vag clerkship; no clue what im going to do after (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048491) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:03 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048799) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:27 PM Author: adventurous soggy alpha resort that sucks dog, sorry to hear that.
anecdotally, i know a fed magistrate clerk who is leaving to do biglaw and then has an appellate clerkship lined up. Not sure if she is just lucky or what.
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:54 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048720) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:06 PM Author: olive hospital gunner I would write to the USAO in your district and offer to volunteer for a year as an S-AUSA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048380) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:25 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048496) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:27 PM Author: hyperventilating circlehead you work for free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048515) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:36 PM Author: olive hospital gunner In the past, fed and state prosecutor offices would temporarily swap prosecutors if they had a joint-task force. But because you had to be a federal prosecutor to work at the USAO, that USAO would create an empty "Special AUSA" slot and "hire" you on an uncompensated basis (because you still drew state salary).
But now, certain districts -- especially ones near the border -- are flooded with fed cases. To help deal with the caseload, the corresponding USAO offices will often take on several "volunteer" AUSA for a year to help prosecute these cases. I've seen these positions posted for Sacramento, Baltimore, etc.
I think you are a good candidate because (1) you have prior USAO experience; (2) you are in a border state; and (3) you have good creds (clerkship is clutch for USAO) but don't have a job. Most of your competition will suck because you can't practice law outside the USAO while you work there, and they won't take deferrals.
I applied to several of these in the past and received "callbacks" but they were always skeptical (and rightfully so) that I'd give up my current job to work for free. |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:48 PM Author: ruddy cuckold center i bet all of those volunteer jobs go to retired trial lawyers who are bored with golf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048667) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:51 PM Author: olive hospital gunner Maybe, but I doubt it because they'd be even more bored with trying fed misdemeanors and mortgage fraud as an S-AUSA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048689) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:51 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048684) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:54 PM Author: olive hospital gunner Must underscore the importance of a Judge going to bat for you. I got one interview just because the USAO was curious what my Judge thought re: the quality of work product from his/her office.
It's also a good idea to exercise the AUSA connections. If you can work them in, you have a way better chance than the average joe.
The S-AUSA interviews are no joke -- had one with seven fed prosecutors firing off questions at me for several hours, all at the same time. |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:56 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048734) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:00 PM Author: olive hospital gunner That particular S-AUSA position was partly-compensated, but I get the sense that these positions are the "real deal." USAOs seem very tight-knit, and they really want to know if you're a team player. If you've already mock interviewed with 3 AUSAs, then you're already ahead of the curve.
I'd poke around their website to see if they have any interesting cases you can learn about. Also, it helps if you express enthusiasm for "boring" areas of AUSA work, like forfeiture, immigration violations, etc. |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:05 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048813) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:09 PM Author: olive hospital gunner I think forfeiture work is underrated because you often encounter forfeiture issues in biglaw white-collar litigation. Moreover, because there's civil and criminal forfeiture, you can presumably take depos and also do forfeiture "indictments" and get portable experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048845) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:23 PM Author: Underhanded talented incel It's a shitty economy. For my current job, they had 400 apps for 2 positions. They have even more for next year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048478) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:48 PM Author: Orange Autistic Principal's Office Love Of Her Life i applied for a job that had over 800 applicants. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048668) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:00 PM Author: Blathering khaki legend den same. but i got mine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049243) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:23 PM Author: Fishy Disgusting Site law related? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048957) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:24 PM Author: Arousing trailer park jew Did you pass the bar? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048495) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:25 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048505) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:25 PM Author: hyperventilating circlehead is this the dood who's wife is like a fucking surgeon resident? I dont feel too bad for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048499) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:31 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048538) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:29 PM Author: magical keepsake machete just do sales bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048527) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:40 PM Author: ruddy cuckold center you must be a really shitty interviewee or have a face for radio. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048604) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:53 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048708) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:29 PM Author: Grizzly Deep Theatre Are you dropping the "flummoxed" bomb on your BigTex interviews? Ding, fag! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048999) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:41 PM Author: Fishy Disgusting Site no joke, try opening up a fish fry shop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048617) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:54 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048716) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:24 PM Author: Fishy Disgusting Site tell them you'll also handle their finances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048958) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 8:53 PM Author: tan hairy legs Shit, I'm in the same boat. Graduated 2008, got axed by big law early of 2010, my firm had 80 incoming 1st years, got rid of 40 stealth manner, myself included, fuck! I've been unemployed now for over 1 year! Nobody in a respectable firm will interview me. The only job offers I've had have been for like loan mods attorney. I don't know wtf todo.
I took the GMAT and applied to several b-schools, god I hope I get in. I saved all my biglaw money so I would not have to take on too much debt for the MBA. This is the my current fall back plan.
I hate this fkn profession, seriously, did people 10 years ago have to jump through as many fucking hurdles to land a decent law job and career. Law has become the worst decision of my life. I posted a fake ad on Craigslist to see how many people were applying to the same jobs that I was, I recieved over 300 resumes in 2 days. I was fucking SHOCKED!!!! Panic mode took over and I decided to start studying for the GMAT. Getting a law job is like winning the dam lottery! Fuck this shit! |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:08 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048842) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:14 PM Author: sadistic area partner Would you be willing to work for $58,000 a year + $15,000 bonus a contingent on billing 2200 hours all the while you are getting legit experience? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048881) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:16 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman r there decent b-schools that would accept u w/ ur (from the perspective of a b-school admissions board) shit pure shit WE? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048892) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:23 PM Author: tan hairy legs I don't think big law firm experience would be considered "shit." I also had 2 years work experience prior to law skool, so I guess its up in the air how it goes. I know several people who got in with much less work experience. I did decent on the gmat (720) and have great law school stats gpa, etc, 168 Lsat, okay undergrad shit, was a computer science major which was hard as fuck! I'm scrambling to get a job so I could apply to maybe a part time MBA, which is a hell of alot easier to get in, plus working would be nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048951) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:24 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman the ppl who got in with "much less work experience" - what ranked b-school r we talking about?
also, how difficult is the gmat? |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:27 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum the GMAT is a fucking joke. i got a 780 on two weeks of study after just buying the big book with a bunch of old released problems at the COOP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048979) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:28 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman tell us your story, brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048983) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:30 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum i heard that several GMAT companies paid BIG FACED HUNDIES for gmat teachers who score in the 99th percentile, so i picked up the official book and studied a little during winter break 1L year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049001) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:31 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman pay gmat instructors more than lsat instructors?
also, did it pay off? did u make bank? |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:34 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum several companies paid $100/hr plus bonus. i taught around 5-10 hours a week for one of them starting my 1L summer and then during 2L and 3L year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049042) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:30 PM Author: tan hairy legs I'm aiming top 20. I did a top 5, couple of top 15s. I dont need to go into I-banking or something super prestigious that only HBS will get you. I really just want like a decent career, not greedy for money. Right now, if i could get a law job making 60k i'd be all over it, I just dont want to do like personal injury or bankruptcy.
GMAT- I thought it was harder than the LSAT, the verbal section on GMAT is almost identical to LSAT, the reading comp is identical, the logical reasoning is easier on GMAT. There are no logic games on GMAT. There is sentence correction on GMAT which can be a bitch if you are not a grammer horr.
The math section on the GMAT was tough because of the time factor. It is really easy math, but the time makes it tough. Plus, there is a lot of mental things you need to block out, because the test gets easier or harder depending on how you are doing. So it is kind of hard to block out how you think you are doing in the middle of the test based on the types of questions you see. If you see really easy questions, you might think, fuck I'm bombing this exam.
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:32 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman what about your friends with less work experience - what ranked b-schools did they get? r they working now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049026) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:36 PM Author: tan hairy legs They got into top 20. One got a job making 6 figures after graduating, but his parents are SUPER loaded and he quit to do his own business. The other got into a top 20 too, his parents are super loaded too and he can pretty much get any job he wants with his connections. My other buddy got into top 15, but maybe minority status helped. My buddies say with my creds I should aim for top 5 school, but I really dont desire to get the cream of the crop i-banking job. I just want something decent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049063) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:37 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman describe their creds in brief, if u dont mind (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049076) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:41 PM Author: tan hairy legs nothing spectacular. 1) Okay undergrad gpa, crazy major though, chem engineering. 3 years Good work experience. low 600 GMAT.
2)Ivy league undergrad, dont know GPA, minimal work experience, 700s gmat.
3)good ug gpa, decent w.e., minority, 700 gmat. |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:47 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman surprised the chem engineer dude did so poorly
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:53 PM Author: tan hairy legs yea, he struggled with that major. It was one of the hardest at our school, average time to complete was 5 years. He worked full time while trying to study for the gmat, so that was probably a big part of it.
Oh the guy saying he bought the big book and got a 780, I don't know, I spent 1g on the private course, I thought the big book questions were WAY easier than the actual test. |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:01 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman what course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049258) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:04 PM Author: tan hairy legs Veritas, super good. Highly recommend it. I gave my password to several of my friends, you can access the online lectures/materials. If you can get some friends to split the cost with you, and maybe photocopy the books, it'd be the way to go. I know 2 people who are thinking gmat route too, one was in biglaw for like 5 years, hated it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049276) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:11 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum i didn't notice that much of a difference except maybe for the very high level math questions -- at least i thought the questions i was getting at the end of the math section on the real thing were really hard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049325) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:16 PM Author: tan hairy legs The big book 800 questions were mostly (to me) like 1 sentence questions that I could answer in a minute. I got a lot more lengthy word problems on the actual test, which were easy but time consuming. It was nice seeing the permutation problems, because those generally were only for people doing good.
It shouldn't have been at the end, generally after the first 10 questions, you should receive the hard math questions if you are doing well, the test will readjust within 3 or 4 questions. I don't know. Crazy though, I finished the verbal section with like 25 minutes left. haha, blew through it. |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:22 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum yea, i don't remember it that well man. i had 20-30 minutes left over on verbal also. just used that time to chill. maybe i wasn't doing great at the end. i only got a 49 on the math section, which was like 93rd percentile when i took it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049385) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:25 PM Author: tan hairy legs are you going/or applying to b-schoo. 780 is amazing. what is that 99th%? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049408) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:28 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum i doubt i'll ever go to business school but who knows. it's nice that it's good for 5 years so i still have a little while to think about it if i want to.
when i took the test 99th percentile started at 750, and i think it has moved to 760 in the last 2 or 3 years. |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:31 PM Author: tan hairy legs yea, I know it is my "backup plan" if I dont get a job by this September. I would rather do part time MBA, but fck it is so hard to find a law job!
Yea 720 was only 94%, I hated the computer adaptive shit, It really messed with my head during the test, i kept thinking whether the problems i was getting would be considered hard or easy, hard to block that aspect.
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:00 PM Author: primrose beady-eyed stead multi-billionaire Aren't you the guy who gave up YLS to be with his wife?
Don't killself yourself, brother. You have a lifetime ahead of you to do something with yourself. You're intelligent; you'll do well. |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:07 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048832) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:15 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman shitlaw is tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048885) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:30 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049002) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:18 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum what does that mean "gave up YLS?" what range of school did you go to, bro? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048909) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:49 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum answer me bitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049173) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:24 AM Author: hyperventilating circlehead you kind of sound spoiled (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052222) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:20 PM Author: Fragrant dull pit nibblets what are ur law school stats? No summer firm? Are you applying only the secondary market where ur wife is?
Market matters; I'd expect e.g. a SDNY magistrate clerk or NY court of appeals clerk could find at least some midlaw firm in NYC
edit: so ur in Texas. Yeah, it's a smaller market, though supposedly the economy there is doing better |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:21 PM Author: Slippery range keep trying brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048930) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:23 PM Author: Comical Sound Barrier Public Bath I feel ya, broseph. What you need is a PLAN! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048954) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:28 PM Author: Fragrant dull pit nibblets were u allowed to interview and apply for jobs during ur clerkship? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17048986) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:37 PM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049068) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:34 PM Author: Rebellious tanning salon Are you qualified for a stat PhD program? In general, PhD's are shit, pure shit, but there is enough demand from industry that stat PhD's don't seem to have much trouble finding jobs. And the PhD program at Texas A&M is actually respectable.
Unfortunately admissions to PhD programs are absurdly competitive right now, and the admissions process is largely a crap shoot. It often comes down to the vagaries of the committee (or member of the committee) that reviews your file. In general, though, I have a hard time believing that many places would autoding you simply because you went to law school. If anything, it indicates that you can withstand the stress of an advanced degree program. I would say the most important factors are grades (particularly grades in advanced math courses), recommendations, research experience, and GRE scores, in roughly that order.
A stat MS might be a viable option as well. Typically the admissions standards for MS programs are much lower. The biggest downside is that your earnings will most likely top out in the high six figures and you'll probably be a SAS monkey the rest of your life. But at least it's a job. |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:29 PM Author: aromatic shimmering chad tell me MOAR about stats
i did a ton of stats in undergrad even though i technically have a poli sci degree |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 11:36 AM Author: olive hospital gunner IMO, a stats master degree is one of the few masters degrees worth getting. It opens doors to many federal jobs you've never heard of -- data analysis at OSHA, CDC, EPA, etc. -- and while you work there, you rack up conf. papers and publications that will help you get into a PHD or MD program if you so desire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052767) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 2:35 PM Author: Rebellious tanning salon Yep, I agree with this. Moreover, funding is available for MS programs in stat at many schools. Usually MS students are lower on the food chain than PhD students when it comes to funding opportunities, so it is kind of hit and miss, but funding definitely exist. A stat MS is a credited option for people who can do math but can't find jobs.
Caveat: The only stat MS people I have known got their degrees at highly-ranked schools. I have no idea what the job market is like if you get an MS in stat at a TTT. As with any graduate program, one should do one's homework before buying. |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 4:01 PM Author: Histrionic ocher cruise ship halford i've given this thought as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17054435) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 11:39 AM Author: aggressive charcoal sanctuary kitty lol @ this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052798) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:43 PM Author: chocolate locale Man I feel for you guys, and I'm not normally empathic. When I got out in 2002 you just had to show up at biglaw with a pulse and you got a job. By the time ITE started, I was a 6th year and they needed to keep me. So now I make $300K, and I'm not all that smart or hardworking. Lifes a bitch aint it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049126) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:53 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman *chainsaws u to death* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049206) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:55 PM Author: chocolate locale I'm empathizing here man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049222) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:58 PM Author: tan hairy legs "I think it may be true that Fortune is the arbiter of half of our actions, but that she still leaves the other half of them, more or less, to be governed by us."- Niccolo Machiavelli.
Unfortunately, I have not had "Fortune" on my side ever. I graduated Computer Science in 02', and the tech bubble burst! Graduated law skool in 08' and guess what...yep! I'm going to graduate with my MBA in a few years, and America will no longer be on a map. haha. At least i'm super fit, being unemployed is not all that bad, I go on my road bike 30 miles a day, go the gym at night, am in the greatest shape of my life. I'm doing well with the ladies, haha. I'm actually really happy. But fuck, I need a job too!!!! |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:01 PM Author: chocolate locale And my wife spends every penny I make and a little more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049255) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:09 PM Author: tan hairy legs yea, I never understood the senior associates. They make alot of $$$ but had all this fancy shit, nice condos, cars etc. Spend everything they make it seems. I saved every fking penny of my big law job knowing there was a good chance I would get axed. If I could have had my job for 2 or 3 more years, I would have saved half a million and moved to some 3rd world country and retired. You can live in central american CHEAP like 3 bucks for lobster dinner! Surf all day. Just O.J. the wife man. haha. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049308) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:26 PM Author: chocolate locale In exchange for surfing all day I would man, but we've got kids. Young'ens. Might divorce her and move to HI in 17 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049411) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 9:58 PM Author: chocolate locale I'm empathizing here man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049237) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:01 PM Author: Plum diverse black woman i'm chainsawing here, man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049253) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:40 PM Author: Jet-lagged internet-worthy gas station ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049540) |
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Date: February 7th, 2011 10:55 AM Author: dashing roast beef foreskin 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17229989) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:36 AM Author: lemon sinister indian lodge this is why it angers me when very successful people claim to have gotten there solely based on their merits
not only is this demonstrably false from anecdotes like this, there have also been reports that those who graduate in recessions have long-lasting depressed salaries as compared to those who graduate when times are flush (like in 2002) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:33 PM Author: umber stirring hell I can't believe there hasn't been any insurance claims salesman trolling itt yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049473) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:36 PM Author: Topaz boyish forum i know a guy who made 92K doing that his first year after getting an associates degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049507) |
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Date: January 13th, 2011 10:41 PM Author: tan hairy legs why are peoples "Author" names all commas and shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17049553) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:00 AM Author: Pink native regret Xoxo java users (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052147) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:07 AM Author: vibrant hall gaming laptop This is why marriage is outdated. You're both on the hook for each other's debt, even long after you no longer practice and are divorced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052164) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:30 AM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052234) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:32 AM Author: hyperventilating circlehead assuming you had stayed in the geographic location of your clerkship, could your judge have gotten you a clerkship interview with a district judge? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052241) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:49 AM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052277) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 9:50 AM Author: vibrant hall gaming laptop Community property includes liabilities bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052284) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 10:13 AM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052370) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 10:15 AM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052375) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 10:18 AM Author: Flesh Property Mad Cow Disease lol, could've just paraphrased bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052388) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 10:30 AM Author: sepia base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052448) |
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Date: January 25th, 2011 11:41 AM Author: light church building could've omitted the "bro" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17133748) |
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Date: January 28th, 2011 11:34 AM Author: insane spot son of senegal shut the fuck up you mouth breathing cretin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17157447) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 11:27 AM Author: submissive pontificating deer antler idea he suggested You gave up YLS and you went to a second tier school. Did they give you a nice schollie? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052738) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 4:06 PM Author: Twinkling shivering crackhouse Lol if true. What range of school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17054456) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 4:17 PM Author: submissive pontificating deer antler idea he suggested I'm assuming probably UT. He is in Texas with his wife. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17054508) |
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Date: January 14th, 2011 11:38 AM Author: citrine up-to-no-good liquid oxygen national Never, never, never give up! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17052783) |
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Date: January 25th, 2011 11:12 AM Author: black space idiot I think you're taking the "korean pride" thing a little too far. You're still prestigious dawg. Plus she'll owe you alimony if she dumps you for being unemployed, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17133582) |
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Date: January 25th, 2011 11:37 AM Author: light church building man, bro brah mang dooder bro brah, man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17133723) |
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Date: January 25th, 2011 11:40 AM Author: black space idiot oh i see where the J. comes from now, dawg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17133742) |
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Date: January 25th, 2011 11:42 AM Author: light church building word, mang bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17133751) |
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Date: January 25th, 2011 2:05 PM Author: dashing roast beef foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17134641) |
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Date: January 28th, 2011 11:34 AM Author: insane spot son of senegal ty brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17157441) |
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Date: January 25th, 2011 11:41 AM Author: big whorehouse scourge upon the earth well, at least you'll always have your 4.0 in abstract math and prestigious lutheran heritage to fall back on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17133744) |
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Date: January 25th, 2011 3:59 PM Author: Yellow insecure private investor office Have you thought about doing Teach for America, dawg? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17135434) |
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Date: February 7th, 2011 11:13 AM Author: Opaque Razzmatazz Meetinghouse become the next hitler, i'll support you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1535190&forum_id=2#17230074) |