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I'm an XO dumb, with mid-160s LSAT scores and a 2.9 ugpa/3.3...
At-the-ready mentally impaired stag film
  06/27/20
Speech therapy is easy and chill as fuck.
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  06/27/20
That's what I'm thinking - but also the fewest growth prospe...
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  06/27/20
Yeah but it's easy and stress free. Law school and PA sc...
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  06/27/20
Good advice here
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  06/27/20
Every bitch does this How are there so many jobs here?
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  06/28/20
jfc don’t go to law school
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You’ve joked about being autistic, but, jokes aside, j...
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  06/27/20
I can briefly turn on the charm and seem non-autistic for my...
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That’s understandable. It seems like you might thrive...
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  06/27/20
Yeah, I'm thinking I could do ok as a law solo, or doing rem...
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  06/27/20
Given your existing credentials, profile, and experience, ha...
exhilarant coffee pot
  06/27/20
This would be the most natural fit wouldn’t it
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I think that Julia could kill it at this. She could als...
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this is a much much better idea than law solo
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go to law school, best 3 years of your life.
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Fortunately that won't be a problem for you
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I'd do #3 - It is good work.
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If you go to law school, you can probably land a Fed or publ...
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This might be a stretch but are there online TTT law degrees...
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I’d do VP of Communications if you can get it. Get pa...
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I've done this before. It's a good amount of work, actually.
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Julia, I would vote for building on your existing skills and...
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you really love the idea of going back to school and startin...
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Don't you have an MBA? Investor relations at a fund?
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She's old school XO/PR. Gotta be almost 40.
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Did she finish college later than usual?
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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:24 AM
Author: At-the-ready mentally impaired stag film

I'm an XO dumb, with mid-160s LSAT scores and a 2.9 ugpa/3.3 graduate gpa. Hispanic female. Looking to switch careers. I'm getting long in the tooth for my line of work (tv/media), and want to do something different in the next phase of my life.

Should I consider 1) Law school 2) PA school, or 3) Speech Language Pathology

The programs I'm looking at all have starting salaries between $100-120k, which is about what I make now, but these are careers I'd be able to do for longer, and perhaps derive more benefit from helping others somehow. Heck, maybe I could make more someday as a lawyer.

Anyhow, I make notoriously poor life choices, so help me out. I will probably need to work until I'm 55-60, so I need to be able to earn $100k plus for another 15-20 years, and I'm smart enough to know my time is quickly passing for my current career.

I could also just go back into corporate work as a VP of Communications somewhere and make closer to $150-175k.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504752)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:26 AM
Author: Plum Spectacular Organic Girlfriend Theater

Speech therapy is easy and chill as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504756)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:26 AM
Author: At-the-ready mentally impaired stag film

That's what I'm thinking - but also the fewest growth prospects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504759)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:27 AM
Author: Plum Spectacular Organic Girlfriend Theater

Yeah but it's easy and stress free.

Law school and PA school and then actually being a lawyer or PA will make you stressed and miserable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504762)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:02 PM
Author: unholy gas station

Good advice here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504921)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:30 AM
Author: Wine Step-uncle's House Selfie

Every bitch does this

How are there so many jobs here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508179)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:26 AM
Author: silver nudist menage

jfc don’t go to law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504758)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:27 AM
Author: exhilarant coffee pot

You’ve joked about being autistic, but, jokes aside, just how poor are your interpersonal skills and how much do you hate interacting with people? Can you turn on the charm if need be? And if so, for how long and how often before your emotional reserves are depleted?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504760)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:29 AM
Author: At-the-ready mentally impaired stag film

I can briefly turn on the charm and seem non-autistic for my TV work, for example. But sitting in an office all day interacting with throngs of people and engaging in office politics - that depletes my reserves in a month or two. People quickly start thinking I'm haughty/aloof, misinterpreting my autism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504770)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:39 AM
Author: exhilarant coffee pot

That’s understandable. It seems like you might thrive in an environment where you are your own boss and/or can work independently most of the time on technical (but not too technical) work. Periodic interactions with clients for sales or counseling purposes would be okay and could be done well, but you need to manage the pace of those interactions so that you can recharge.

How capable are you of being self-motivated and productive without the accountability of a boss or explicit deadlines?

Edit to add: How much flexibility do you have, given your present circumstances, to take time off for school or to take time to establish a business/practice in a new field?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504816)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:51 AM
Author: At-the-ready mentally impaired stag film

Yeah, I'm thinking I could do ok as a law solo, or doing remote teletherapy or telehealth as an SLP or PA.

I have good flexibility, since my work now is mostly remote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504867)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:02 PM
Author: exhilarant coffee pot

Given your existing credentials, profile, and experience, have you thought about opening an RIA? There are some really good RIA-in-a-box technology solutions that take care of all of the back end. You could focus exclusively on the sales and counseling. Most updates can be done with email/video.

Could be perfect for a highly attractive woman who can project a business like demeanor and competence with finances. Also too many RIAs just focus on slinging mutual funds, insurance, and other investment products. There’s a real need, especially among the elder Millennials who finally have some money, to get more comprehensive financial advice and they still want the hand holding of a live person. Can they afford that house? That car? How much insurance do they need? Is it time to consider refinancing? On and on.

I think that there’s good demand for this around the Main Line and in the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504923)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:07 PM
Author: unholy gas station

This would be the most natural fit wouldn’t it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504934)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:12 PM
Author: exhilarant coffee pot

I think that Julia could kill it at this.

She could also layer in some diversity grift. Financial planning for neuro-atypical people. Plenty of rich tech autists would line up to have a hot Latina finance autist boss them around about their $. Same re: managing finances for upwardly mobile Latino twink millennials and zoomers (probably not the testosterone Latin men crowd though).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504966)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:11 PM
Author: rose cruel-hearted national

this is a much much better idea than law solo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504959)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:27 AM
Author: Aggressive Business Firm Pistol



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:34 AM
Author: Wine Step-uncle's House Selfie



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:29 AM
Author: Naked Orchestra Pit Jewess

go to law school, best 3 years of your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504769)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:29 AM
Author: Charcoal stage bbw

Last one seems by far the most cr. Some kind of corporate communications / media relations / investor relations gig. Don't go back to school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504771)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:31 AM
Author: Aggressive Business Firm Pistol



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:31 AM
Author: At-the-ready mentally impaired stag film

Yeah, but my Autism eventually shines through in corporate environments. When you're an attractive female Autistic, people just think you're a bitch. They don't realize you're struggling just to interact and understand the rules of etiquette, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504780)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:37 AM
Author: Charcoal stage bbw

People thinking you're a bitch isn't the worst thing in the world as long as you don't get fired. It's good to have people a little afraid of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504803)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:37 AM
Author: cobalt elite main people

Fortunately that won't be a problem for you

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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:32 PM
Author: Opaque Private Investor Parlour

cr. she may have let that compliment of great body all those years ago go to her head.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505041)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 1:55 PM
Author: cream maniacal psychic love of her life

No offense but you have the exact opposite of a growth mindset. Most people have some degree of awkwardness around other people. Not everyone is born a bill Clinton, who by the way worked hard on his charisma. Read some books on charisma (the charisma myth is a good one) and try to improve your interpersonal skills. Poor interpersonal skills don't help in any job. Guess what, let's say you go back to law school, and kill it, which is a stretch. You're still going to have to have decent interpersonal skills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505368)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:33 AM
Author: Spruce laser beams senate

Serious answer? Hop between corporate gigs. No need to get another degree or cert. You'll eventually land as a diversity hire somewhere with no real responsibilities and unfireable, so you'll be free to poast 24/7.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504790)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:37 AM
Author: Charcoal stage bbw



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:40 AM
Author: Spruce laser beams senate

non-white privilege

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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:41 AM
Author: rose cruel-hearted national



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:48 AM
Author: Stubborn cerebral mexican depressive

cr

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Date: June 27th, 2020 6:18 PM
Author: Cocky Henna Nursing Home Sex Offender



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: rusted concupiscible roommate

Chaturbate.com

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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:35 AM
Author: Aggressive Business Firm Pistol



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:36 AM
Author: rusted concupiscible roommate

Many people are saying this!

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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:37 AM
Author: silver nudist menage



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:35 AM
Author: sinister corner

WTF. I work at the CIA and you still haven't returned our calls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504794)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:39 AM
Author: laughsome chad

hmu... I'm more than qualified.. don't know why you keep dinging me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508228)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:44 AM
Author: zombie-like native

I'd do #3 - It is good work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504840)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:45 AM
Author: vivacious friendly grandma

If you go to law school, you can probably land a Fed or public law job that won't be that hard and pays you six figures (or close to it)

Your aloofness and autism can be seen as an asset. Also if you're an XO dumb don't go to a tough law school. Go to a TTT that gives you a full ride

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504843)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 4:27 PM
Author: heady ratface ceo

This might be a stretch but are there online TTT law degrees that give a full ride?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505975)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:53 AM
Author: cyan immigrant school cafeteria

I’d do VP of Communications if you can get it. Get paid well and enjoy life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504876)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:53 AM
Author: At-the-ready mentally impaired stag film

I've done this before. It's a good amount of work, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504877)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:59 AM
Author: cyan immigrant school cafeteria

i Agree it’s a lot of work. I just think it’s better than paying for lawschool and risking not getting that pay after. Lawschool could set you back years financially and the work is mostly boring. At a firm, you need to make a lot more since benefits tend to suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504911)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:57 AM
Author: khaki appetizing kitchen elastic band

law school. you would pwn with xo’s collective wisdom walking you through each step

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504901)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:01 PM
Author: sticky ticket booth

After like 15 years on xo not even you could be dumb enough to go to law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504919)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:40 AM
Author: laughsome chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508238)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:11 PM
Author: Idiotic rambunctious principal's office therapy

You have to be able to spin your current experience as being related to your future career. You are far too old to start from scratch. Imagine yourself at a job interview, answering the question of "what makes you a good fit for this job?" And your past career has to be a seamless part or the answer. Maybe you want to be a speech therapist because before you got your degree, you excelled in public communication and you want to help your patients reach that next level. Maybe you want to be a lawyer and work in pr, reviewing communications (this is very narrow and i am reaching but on the other hand your experience would be a good fit).

It has to all make sense and your experience needs to add value in a concrete way. If all you bring is a law degree they will hire the 28yo with a law degree every time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504955)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:16 PM
Author: exhilarant coffee pot

Cr. I think that viewing this as an opportunity to evolve her career is far smarter than trying to totally restart it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504973)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:18 PM
Author: lascivious internal respiration legal warrant

Cr “I want to a sex slave and be shit on by Saudis because I was a cog in the Jewish media.” That kind of thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504975)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 2:42 PM
Author: Sable electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505538)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 2:53 PM
Author: Provocative ruby people who are hurt puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505575)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 6:16 PM
Author: Soul-stirring theatre hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506422)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 11:51 AM
Author: rough-skinned point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40509671)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:20 PM
Author: Titillating Center

Julia, I would vote for building on your existing skills and experience rather than starting over in a new field. The opportunity cost of more school is high at your age. Perhaps you could do consulting gigs in your field rather than commit to a full time corporate post? In the 16 years since retiring I have done among other things a lot of retained search work (hiring company pays regardless of success). I just completed a pro bono search for a private foundation executive director. The guy who got the job started in media then moved to a university communications job then to a hospital communications and marketing job then to the foundation. If you want to contact me via my throwaway I will be happy to chat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504980)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:23 PM
Author: lascivious internal respiration legal warrant

(Harvey Weinstein)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40504996)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:48 PM
Author: frozen stage fortuitous meteor

Seems like good advice. And an IRL friendship between OldHLSDude and Julia would be a great new XO subplot imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505114)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 4:34 PM
Author: Charcoal stage bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506015)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 1:27 PM
Author: underhanded federal rehab

Julia, radio is not dead. Also, tv production and whatnot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505266)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 1:47 PM
Author: cream maniacal psychic love of her life

Cr. Law school is a terrible idea. Rarely, if ever, works for people who go back past age 35. You're in for 3 years and tons of money when you include tuition plus opportunity cost. And the reality is you aren't getting anything decent right of school, even if you got biglaw.

You have to make peace with your existing skills and prospects and maximize them. People who have this grass is greener thing into their 30s and 40s do not do well. They waste time and money and then find their new field also has flaws and doesn't magically fix their life. It just wastes time and money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505332)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 6:50 AM
Author: Orchid space

LOL you totally missed the point. Giving good, actionable advice and an in invitation to talk privately won’t allow her to build drama and tension and thus attention whore as much as possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508979)



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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:32 PM
Author: Titillating Center

Just offering the non-xo option consistent with my avuncular persona and IRL quixotic personality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40515518)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:28 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal keepsake machete

you really love the idea of going back to school and starting over or something? why would you do this at your age in this stage in life when you likely don't have to to get whatever change you're looking for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505022)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:54 PM
Author: Multi-colored brilliant church

I can speak to 1 and 2.

Don't be a lawyer, in a majority of outcomes you will regret this for the rest of your life.

PA is a good gig, it's a growing field with a good starting salary, and you can pick the specialty that interests you most. Between these two I would recommend PA over JD 100 times out of 100.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505136)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:55 PM
Author: Stubborn cerebral mexican depressive

How much alimony/child support do you receive from that old geezer you married and divorced?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505143)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:30 AM
Author: Stirring theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508187)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 1:49 AM
Author: Jet-lagged comical abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508515)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 12:57 PM
Author: impressive primrose temple old irish cottage

Don't you have an MBA?

Investor relations at a fund?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505150)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 1:15 PM
Author: boyish shaky market

Probably can get into cls with those stats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505221)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 1:22 PM
Author: underhanded federal rehab

Law - do family law, you would enjoy that. Or employment law.

YOu'd prob get in to a decent school being who you are and now a mature student.

I know speech therapists, its a very chill job and every health region needs them. You' be good at that.

But you should look into being producer with tv stations or even radio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505244)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 1:28 PM
Author: aphrodisiac heaven

Did you give up the podcast thing? I think you'd be a good co-host for a legal/news debate type show

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505274)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 1:31 PM
Author: ivory bateful set

Is it easy to become a PA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505285)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 8:40 PM
Author: aromatic marketing idea athletic conference

Yes any retard can become a physician's assistant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40507038)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 1:52 PM
Author: Irradiated factory reset button

difficult to believe this is a real thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505355)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:41 AM
Author: Supple emerald boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508243)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 2:23 PM
Author: tantric mind-boggling gaming laptop

Diversity coordinator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505475)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 2:39 PM
Author: Sable electric furnace

If you're still in Philadelphia, you can try to get a full scholarship at Tulane, if your LSAT score is still valid.

The other two sound painfully middle class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505532)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 2:53 PM
Author: lake university liquid oxygen

insofar as law school spits people out into socially respected (in the real world if not on xo) white collar business-facing careers, that seems a much better fit to your personality than being a PA or whatever. presumably NU would take you on a good day, and they have a 2yr long program, so honestly that sounds like the most logical option from your list, given what I 'know' about you from poasting. my main concern would be that you've been on xo for 16+ years without ever showing even the slightest interest in law as a career (afaik) until getting 'long in the tooth' for on-camera 'journalism' -- i.e., it sounds like you think your looks are starting to go or are about to.

speech pathology sounds like a flame borderline made up 'career path' that freshman undergrad girls say they're 'interested in' because it sounds kinda good and doesn't tend to produce many follow up questions ... probably because none of their interlocutors know what it is ... probably because it's a total flame borderline made up 'career'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505574)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 2:54 PM
Author: Crystalline hospital incel

Take CSLG’s course. Look into whether you can sit for the bar without having a JD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505579)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 2:58 PM
Author: lake university liquid oxygen

oh great, plant the seeds for Julia to start comparing herself to kim kardashian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40505614)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 4:52 PM
Author: Exciting territorial black woman

do some kind of client communications bullshit at a hedge fund

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506076)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 5:01 PM
Author: Slippery dilemma deer antler

I say this as a FRIEND. you are not smart enough or capable of working hard enough to make decent money in law as a second career. you would be lucky to ,are it back to your current salary trajectory. I am not going to claim law is some scholarly pursuit for only the finest minds, but you would struggle to keep up in any practice area that is not entirely populated with retards (criminal, immigration, family law, etc). you won’t make serious money in those areas and you will resent the difficulty of the work required to money hat is just OK. you will not get some kind of unicorn job and your prior career won’t open any doors. set your ego aside and just go dominate in an in-demand healthcare field.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506130)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 6:14 PM
Author: exhilarant coffee pot

Subtle Ruskie burn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506415)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 6:16 PM
Author: Soul-stirring theatre hunting ground

Subtle?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506423)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 7:10 AM
Author: Opaque Private Investor Parlour

Given her Hispanic background wouldn't immigration or criminal be a natural fit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508996)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 6:23 PM
Author: Duck-like arousing tanning salon giraffe

Unless you're suicidal (as in, you need a career change to avoid it), starting over in a completely new field sounds like a terrible idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506451)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 6:25 PM
Author: indigo lettuce

most important question: how old are u?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506461)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 11:32 PM
Author: Duck-like arousing tanning salon giraffe

She's old school XO/PR. Gotta be almost 40.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40507884)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:45 AM
Author: laughsome chad

she's gotta be hitting mid forties. No way she's in her thirties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508264)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 2:54 AM
Author: Duck-like arousing tanning salon giraffe

Did she finish college later than usual?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508658)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 6:26 PM
Author: Very Tactful Trailer Park Hairy Legs

Maybe call that Playboy chick who felt up your boobs and get some career guidance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506464)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 6:56 PM
Author: narrow-minded histrionic idea he suggested hominid

learn php and finish the BIGCHANGES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40506562)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 8:47 PM
Author: rough-skinned point

I'd say shoot for a corporate job in media/entertainment before devoting years of your life and hundreds of thousands in tuition and opportunity cost on a career change as a single mother in your 40s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40507067)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 8:47 PM
Author: Aggressive Business Firm Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40507071)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:28 AM
Author: exhilarant coffee pot

Pretty hard to find an adequately rich dood who will sign up to let a woman stay at home and be a mom to not his child.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508176)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:34 AM
Author: Wine Step-uncle's House Selfie

Just go back in time and don’t blow it with that aged kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508198)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:46 AM
Author: laughsome chad

I missed the divorce saga ... what happened? I thought she was happily married raising babydood as recently as 2019? tf changed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508268)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:47 AM
Author: Aggressive Business Firm Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508275)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 1:50 AM
Author: Jet-lagged comical abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508520)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:37 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Light Hissy Fit

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508214)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:43 AM
Author: Aggressive Business Firm Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508257)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:35 AM
Author: Stirring theater stage

BEING A MOM IS THE HARDEST JOB THERE IS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508201)



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Date: June 27th, 2020 9:45 PM
Author: indigo lettuce

(xoxo 2020)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40507333)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:31 AM
Author: Stirring theater stage

You could be my PA and manage my various holdings and accounts.

I offer you 60-70k and a working visa in Australia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508191)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:35 AM
Author: laughsome chad

don't go to law school. you're going to get thoroughly dismantled and aren't likely to cop biglaw. Factor in the debt and the quality of life..

I thought you married rich.. why don't you just focus on raising your baby?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508205)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:36 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Light Hissy Fit

Sis, if you've got 20 years, get a state job with retirement, stat.

Being some dipshit VP at $120K/yr, 401K, continual possibility of layoffs <<<<< chill $75K state jerb with guaranteed healthcare and pension upon retirement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508210)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:37 AM
Author: Wine Step-uncle's House Selfie

She had big student loans into her 30s

She wants spending money in her pocket and prestige bc she’s a dumb cunt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508217)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:39 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Light Hissy Fit

This means that she's going to blow through either $75K or $120K. Better to do the lower amount and cop dat pension.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508231)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:39 AM
Author: Wine Step-uncle's House Selfie

she wants the cash and prestige

She probably also enjoys the dog eat dog nature of private business more (She’s evil)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508236)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:13 PM
Author: fantasy-prone autistic feces meetinghouse

how is being a VP more prestigious than being a gov attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40509746)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 11:51 AM
Author: rough-skinned point

This is very true.

Stability, low stress, peace of mind, benefits >>>>> slightly higher annual income

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40509669)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:12 PM
Author: fantasy-prone autistic feces meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40509742)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:43 AM
Author: charismatic ruddy faggotry striped hyena

Law school -- honestly, it's 180. Probably not the #1 life experience I've ever had but easily top 3. Probably just straight up top 2 and on some days #1. Might be the best thing I've ever done. Such a good time in lots of different ways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508258)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:44 AM
Author: Stirring theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508260)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:48 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Light Hissy Fit

This is true if you can cop HYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508277)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:57 AM
Author: big haunting circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508299)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:51 AM
Author: indigo lettuce

u would do really well selling cars at a car dealership

u down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508285)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:51 AM
Author: copper digit ratio

Front end web development

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508288)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 12:55 AM
Author: Stimulating bronze field

You can write a bestselling how-to for poasters: “The Art of the Flame”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508295)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 1:16 AM
Author: Awkward coldplay fan base

spin dat mint.com experience into a cushy comma gig at robinhood; i hear they are having a little pr trouble rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40508375)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 10:47 AM
Author: misunderstood den kitty cat

A Thunderbird degree ain't what it used to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40509442)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 3:49 PM
Author: vivacious friendly grandma

did she get a 3.3GPA at Thunderbird? I didn't realize there was so much RIGOR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40510664)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 3:51 PM
Author: Marvelous hilarious institution trump supporter

didn't you claim you made 250k from writing? what does it matter if you're "long in the tooth" for your industry if you can make that much from writing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40510668)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 8:40 PM
Author: indigo lettuce

right, no one even knows who the writer is. and being old is actually helpful

like how rl stine was a 65 year old women who wrote goosebump books for mostly teenage boys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40511972)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 3:58 PM
Author: thriller cruise ship

Julia in court

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uklF7VtqJq8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40510690)



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Date: June 28th, 2020 8:41 PM
Author: Adventurous hateful home pocket flask

julia oh julia, have you met julia?

...julia the tattooed lady...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4571420&forum_id=2#40511982)



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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:38 PM
Author: curious nubile locus stock car

you're older than me. lol you think you'll be a lawyer now? if you don't have a career plan as a 40's female you need to latch on to an old millionaire (what you should've done in your 20's as we've all seen you "reason" through test answers) or kill self. since kill self is always an option, find a man. i suggest you kill cslg's wife and try to hitch on to his wagon. but that murder might be too easy to solve so find your own millionaire lawyer desperate for a non-asian wife.

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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:45 PM
Author: passionate azure toilet seat faggot firefighter

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: June 29th, 2020 12:52 PM
Author: buck-toothed dun wagecucks forum

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