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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:29 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526101) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:31 PM Author: brass narrow-minded market Why do you think that Harvard rejected you?
EDIT: Did Harvard reject you? |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:32 PM Author: hairraiser mexican This is perhaps the dumbest post this evening.
Congrats. |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:36 PM Author: Crusty Piazza New Version c'mon, lighten up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526207) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:39 PM Author: hairraiser mexican Who are you - sarcasm police?
Beat it copper. |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:40 PM Author: Crusty Piazza New Version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526253) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:38 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat My app criticized plagiarism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526227) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:32 PM Author: Vibrant Regret Lettuce I have a question.
Ah, which do you think is more important? Hard work, or stick-to-it-iveness? |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:36 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Hard work. Sticking with something won't do much for you if you're not working hard at it at the same time. Hard work, on the other hand, typically encompasses sticking with something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526202) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:37 PM Author: Vibrant Regret Lettuce Does your plant have a recycling center? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526208) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:38 PM Author: Wonderful kitchen boistinker how does the clerkship race work without grades? does it really come down to "who can get guido's rec letter"? does ylj matter?
also, what do people tend to do when they finish clerking - nyc/dc biglaw or do they actually do other things? |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:40 PM Author: Razzmatazz orchestra pit "does ylj matter?"
Uh, yes. |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:41 PM Author: Wonderful kitchen boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526269) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:41 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Grades still matter for clerkships (and for 2L hiring as well), it's just that they matter less than at other schools. The most competitive judges, I understand, have certain grade cut-offs (e.g., you can only have 2 or 3 P's). Since grades matter less, everything else matters more, including rec letters, journal(s), and publications.
After clerking I think most people spend a few years in biglaw, though some go straight to public interest. I think there are some states on the Career Development website on that. |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:43 PM Author: Wonderful kitchen boistinker Just curious: how competitive is it to get top grades? How many get 3 H's, 2 H's, etc. their second semester, for instance? I'm amazed there's enough granularity for employers to distinguish... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526296) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:47 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat After 1 semester of grades there's very little, so I imagine firms look more to other things than judges do. The grade distribution varies by professor, but I think the average prof will give about 30-40% of the class an H. Some used to give 50% but one prof told my class he was now limited to 40%. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526337) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:39 PM Author: Chrome Area Fanboi how slutty are the YLS girls? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526238) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:42 PM Author: sienna heady parlor gaming laptop horribly ugly no matter what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526284) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:45 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Terribly. If you can drop an, "I was chatting with Amar at lunch yesterday," you're golden. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526315) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:45 PM Author: Chrome Area Fanboi Are you Amar? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526318) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:48 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat I can be if that's what you need right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526365) |
Date: August 7th, 2005 11:39 PM Author: Crusty Piazza New Version Have you found that many of your classmates have pursued graduate studies abroad (D.Phil, terminal masters, and the like) before attending Yale? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526233) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:43 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat A ridiculous proportion, yes. It's amazing how many have grad degrees from Oxford, Cambridge, or the London School of Econ. I expected to encounter the few Rhodes Scholars and some Truman Scholars, etc., but looking through the facebook, it's like every third person spent a year or two there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526293) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:47 PM Author: Crusty Piazza New Version Since so many attended, would you say that a large number financed their own graduate education in England (since there are only so many Gates-Cambridge, Rhodes, Marshalls, etc)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526345) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:50 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat I don't know the answer to that, but my guess is that many of them did. It's cheaper over there I believe, which makes it seem more plausible to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526380) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:50 PM Author: Crusty Piazza New Version cool, gl & thanks for the info. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526391) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:52 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat You're welcome, and the same to you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526418) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:51 PM Author: startling brunch stock car YLS looks like a pretty good place to spend three years. Are you generally enthusiastic about your experience so far? Any regrets not choosing, say, H or S? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526394) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:55 PM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Very enthusiastic about my experience, yeah. The only downside is the location. There are times it'd be nice to be in Boston, and in the winter, Stanford seems pretty fucking desirable. But there's no way I'd trade YLS for either. Even for biglaw, I wouldn't pick either of those over YLS. I have very few negative things to say about my experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526462) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:57 PM Author: startling brunch stock car Excellent, thanks. If you don't mind saying, what year are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526479) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:59 PM Author: Vibrant Regret Lettuce See thread title. HTH |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:00 AM Author: startling brunch stock car GG reading comprehension. Yay me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526528) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:54 PM Author: galvanic gas station chad Subject: Transfers Into Yale In light of the fact that Yale does not give 'grades', i'd appreciate your input on whether or not the following would be viewed as the ideal Yale Law School graduate:
Student A attends a top 10 law school for 1L and ends up in top 5%. A applies for transfer and is accepted to Yale for 2L and 3L.
I'm guessing that A is sort of an optimal Yale graduate. Unlike other Yale graduates, A has proven to be a top quality student during rigorous 1L and has done so at a respectable school. Further, A benefits during 2L and 3L from whatever the magic mojo is at Yale that makes it so renowned.
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Are Yale 1Ls intimidated by such transfers since these transfers are 'battle tested' in a way they haven't been and never will be?
Do you think the outside hiring world would look at such a graduate as the best of both worlds - reliably battle tested and oozing in Yale prestige?
Such isn't the destiny for me, but i've always wondered about those Yale transfers. Seems like they have the best of both worlds. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:01 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat 1) I know a few of these transfers and I don't think anyone feels intimidated by them. I think everyone at school feels pretty confident in their academic ability, even if they haven't been tested specifically in law school. Conversely, I don't think these transfers feel intimidated either. It's really amazing how little thought there is about how you compare with everyone else. That kind of stuff just doesn't really happen. It happened a little during hiring last fall, and I imagine it'll happen a little with clerkships next month, but beyond that it's not on most people's radar.
2) I tend to think that such a graduate probably does have an advantage, particularly during 2L hiring, since the regular Yalies only have 1 semester's worth of grades, and are thus more of a risk. I don't think being battle-tested is viewed as adding anything in and of itself to a candidate's desirability, as though the person has been transformed in some way. I think it's just an indicator of their academic ability, and thus one more guarantee that they'll be a reliable hire.
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:07 AM Author: galvanic gas station chad Subject: thanks. one more thanks for the answer. one last question i've always wondered about. on the hiring front, who would have the edge:
A: Been at Yale all 3 years. Good grades and on YLJ. B: Was top of his class (i.e. #1) after 1L at a top 10 school. Transferred into Yale and continued to make very good grades but during all the transferring process missed the boat on YLJ.
thanks. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:13 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat If the person was literally #1 at a top 10 school, I think that person would probably have the edge hands down, at least for firm hiring. I was told that the only thing YLJ is absolutely necessary for is Supreme Court clerkships. So there, the 3-year Yalie might have the edge. And since many of the most competitive circuit judges want to be feeders, that might give the 3-year guy the edge among the most competitive circuit judges as well. But this is all pure speculation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526672) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:15 AM Author: galvanic gas station chad awesome. their kung-fu is equally matched. cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526694) |
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Date: August 7th, 2005 11:58 PM Author: Chrome Area Fanboi What do people think of Killuminati? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526494) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:02 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Very well-liked as far as I can tell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526547) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:01 AM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison Any tips for the first semester? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526537) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:06 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Lots. Main thing: don't stress out. There's really nothing to stress about. You'll probably find you really like one or two of your profs. My advice would be to work hard in those one or two classes and get to know them a bit. There's absolutely no doubt that you'll pass all 4 classes, so focus on the ones you're most interested in.
Yale Journal on Regulation is probably the easiest secondary journal to work for, in terms of time commitment, if you're interested in doing a journal.
Go to all your Lexis/Westlaw training sessions.
Good luck man; you're going to love it. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:14 AM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison Thanks. I can't wait to start. What about the Yale Law & Policy Review? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526679) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:17 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Definitely one of the more popular journals, I think because of the subject matter, but I think it's also one of the more time-consuming (though I never did it, so I could be wrong). Even still, no secondary journal is all that demanding, so if you're especially interested in it I would do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526709) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:27 AM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison Cool, thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526838) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:38 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Absolutely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526981) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:09 AM Author: stirring alcoholic boiling water meetinghouse Do YLS students interact much with other yale students? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526625) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:15 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat On the whole I'd say no, but it's not for lack of opportunities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526684) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:15 AM Author: Crusty Piazza New Version were you HYP u-grad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526688) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:19 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526736) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:26 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort Do you eat in the LS dining hall? If so, we've probably seen each other a lot. :-) I eat there pretty much everyday... I love the double 5 ounce burgers! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526826) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:28 AM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison Good to hear the food is good...I just purchased the $400 meal plan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526858) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:28 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat I actually don't, but those burgers are killer, in more than one way. Will you be a 2L, or are you an undergrad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526861) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:30 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort I'm an undergrad. If I were in the law school I wouldn't eat there. I'd go to Ivy Noodle or some other place that is cheaper and has better food. But since I'm on the meal plan I can eat $7.00 worth of food there for free at each meal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526881) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:32 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Yeah, I usually go to one of the nearby restaurants instead. Why do you use the law school's dining hall though? Is it better than the others? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526908) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:34 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort The law school dining hall is the only dining hall that has fast food stuff like burgers, fries and pizza. This is why a lot of undergrads eat there. It's not necessarily better than the other dining halls, just different. And a lot of the time I don't like what the other dining halls are serving, so I go to the law school because I know they'll have stuff I like (pizza, burgers, etc.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3526928) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:37 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Didn't know that.
So why are you on this board - are you thinking of law school? |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:41 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort Definitely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527016) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:43 AM Author: Crusty Piazza New Version Blue Smoke: I've heard from friends that Yale has pretty fancy Sunday brunches (?) for undergrads. Is this true? What are the like? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527046) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:45 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort Yeah it has good brunches. Not really fancy but very good as college dining goes. Good meats like bacon, sausage hame, usually eggs and a bread like waffles, pancakes or french toast. In general, Yale has good food. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527073) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:40 PM Author: Bespoke mint hissy fit Don't forget eli breakfast sandwich!!!
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:53 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Awesome. What year are you? Are you doing anything like mock trial? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527123) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:02 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort I'm going to be a senior. I'm not in any "intellectual" ECs. I worked for the YDN for a very short period of time. Now I just volunteer and dance mainly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527180) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:06 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Sounds good. I don't know how much distinclty intellectual ECs help with admissions anyway. What kind of dance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527208) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:08 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort Have you ever heard of Danceworks? I'm in that. It's a student run dance group... we do al kinds of dance, from ballet to step to hip hop. Are you in any ECs at Yale? I understand grad students can join certain undergrad organizations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527221) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:14 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Haven't heard of it but it sounds cool.
All my ECs are at the law school so I haven't met a lot of undergrads. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:16 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort Where do you party? Bars? Clubs? Only law school parties? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527282) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:18 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Mostly bars and law schools parties. Clubs occasionally. NYC every so often. You? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527312) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:22 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort Where are your favorite places to hang out? I like Bar a lot. What are law school parties like? Usually at bars and clubs, or at someone's apartment? Are they private, for small groups of people and their friends or do people have parties that are open to everyone in the law school? Like, the equivalent of frat parties for undegrads? I've only been to a few frat parties... one at someone's apartment, a few at clubs. They sucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527346) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:26 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat They're usually at apartments/houses, but sometimes at bars. And they're typically open to the whole law school, you just have to know about it, and it's hard not to. People bring friends from other schools and it wouldn't be weird for undergrads to show up I don't think. Believe it or not, grad guys like undergrad girls! The parties are usually pretty fun without being frat party crazy.
I like Bar a lot, too, and Richter's. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:40 AM Author: Marvelous Hospital How would you describe the student body politically? Are there a lot of radicals/progressives? Are people really involved in their issues? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527015) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:55 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat More liberals than conservatives, but a significant number of the latter, more than I had expected in fact. Not a ton of people I'd describe as radical, on either end of the spectrum. During law school people seem to focus mostly on school, though some people are notably involved in issue-based activities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527140) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:57 AM Author: Crusty Piazza New Version how have your H-Y game experiences been? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527151) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:03 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort I know you didn't ask me, but last year's Harvard-Yale game was awesome for me. I ate so much and got sooo wasted. It was freezing outside but after a while I didn't even feel it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527188) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 7:45 AM Author: crawly dashing boltzmann Oh c'mon. It was hardly freezing! Where are you from? Did you tailgate at Ohiri Field (HBS)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3528336) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:04 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat I've only gone once and it was okay. It's basically a huge tailgate, which, if you've gone to a big university, is a weekly thing that's fun but nothing to write home about, but if you go to Harvard or Yale, is a major event. It's really the biggest non-rival rivalry there is - bunch of Harvard and Yale kids mingling and drinking. There's a sense of animosity, but there's also a distinct sense of comraderie, of, "We're Harvard and Yale, and we're the shit." The rivalry is really about arguing who the bigger shit is.
Apologies, Blue Smoke, if I've offended you. But that's my non-Ivy impression. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:12 AM Author: Pale adventurous jew resort I can see where you're coming from. I guess it's a big deal to us Ivy nerds because it's the only sporting event anyone cares about and gets excited about. But yea, the rivalry isn't that big a deal. Most people from Yale stayed with friends at Harvard over the weekend anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527253) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:08 AM Author: mahogany massive stain What's the most convienent bank to have an account with? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527218) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:09 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat There's an ATM near the law school but it's not my bank so I've never paid attention to which bank it belongs to. I know some people use Wachovia though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527231) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:09 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Out of your year, how many totally snobby douches are there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527229) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:11 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat I can honestly say I haven't met any. I've heard one person spoken of that way, but have never myself gotten that impression from that person. So basically, no one I know of. I was expecting to find some people like that and have been pleasantly surprised. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527245) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:15 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Yeah...it's one of my big concerns.
It'll be odd to go from a town where I've built a big social network to a New England town where I don't know a soul. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:20 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat I think most people, even the ones from schools that send a lot of people to Yale, are in the same boat. Your class is so small that you won't have trouble meeting people. Just take advantage of orientation, when no one knows anybody yet, and you'll be totally fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527326) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:15 AM Author: Marvelous Hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527274) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:16 AM Author: mahogany massive stain I met him too. Total flaming asshole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527284) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:16 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Why the edit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527293) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:17 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Damn, you did that fast, I didn't even see the name. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527301) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:18 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Hint: It was my name. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527308) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:19 AM Author: Marvelous Hospital :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527325) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:20 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Not even a hint? ;( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527333) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:30 AM Author: Marvelous Hospital No. I don't post much, but I read some of the Yale threads here and on LSD so I kinda know who the regular posters are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527421) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:32 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Heeh. Fair enough.
I'm actually not that bad of a guy, was in a bit of a funk during admit weekend. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:35 AM Author: Marvelous Hospital I was joking. I only made it to Monday of admit weekend.. don't think I even met you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527481) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:39 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Hmmm...yeah, probably not all that likely.
I'm kinda excited about meeting everybody in a few weeks. Pretty much everybody I've met so far seemed pretty cool...and apparently i don't have to worry about being surrounded by a bunch of pompous jerks. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:42 AM Author: Marvelous Hospital Everyone I've met has also been pretty cool. I think it's gonna be great. On that note, then, g'night dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527578) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:37 AM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison "was in a bit of a funk during admit weekend."
Inner turmoil over Stanford v. Yale? |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:42 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Yeah. Had felt quite set to go to S, so when i went I had to put effort into giving it a legit chance. And then, when I liked it more, had to say adios to my California dreamin'...
Also it's just weird to be going through this all again. Freshman year was a long time ago. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:49 AM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison Understandable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527635) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:31 AM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison Not who you were thinking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527424) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:33 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Yeah...didnt' think you posted under multiple names. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527456) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:16 AM Author: galvanic gas station chad Subject: author lady Do you know of the author lady who goes to Yale? Wrote some book about Americans taking lots of psychiatric drugs, or something like that? Is she the Yale version of a "rock star" on campus? Any other famous "rock star" types? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527292) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:23 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Elizabeth Weurtzel (_Prozac Nation_). I've met and talked with her a few times. She's not a rock star, but people know who she is. There's a girl who won a Bronze medal in the Olympics last summer (wrestling, no less); a pro baseball player and a pro soccer player, I think. No one's treated like a rock star though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527349) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:24 AM Author: galvanic gas station chad I know that even athlets and legacies have to be smart to get into YLS, but do they stick out? Are they noticably less capable? Do they act weird or get treated weird because of it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527362) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:29 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat All the athletes are in the class below me and I didn't have any classes with them last semester so I can't say. I think the profs are pretty used to having famous people come through the school, so I doubt anyone gets any special treatment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527410) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 12:46 PM Author: Bespoke mint hissy fit The female wrestler went to my high school. She was 1 year below me and went to Stanford UG. I do believe she got into Yale and deferred so she could train for the Olympics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3529658) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:28 AM Author: galvanic gas station chad Back on the transfer issue, i'd imagine that the #1 1L student from each law school ranked 6-10 transfers into yale as a 2L. True? Each year, is it like: "yep, there's the Chicago top dog, the NYU top dog, the Penn top dog, etc.". Does it happen like that and, if so, is each known around campus as such? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527402) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:32 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat I doubt that the #1s from those schools transfer to Yale every year. And of those that do transfer, I doubt that anyone knows what their class rank was. One guy transferred from Chicago last year, and I just kind of assume he was probably, I don't know, top 10-15% at least. Someone transferred from Emory, so I assume she was probably #1 or something close. I think someone recently transferred from Vermont, so I'm pretty sure he'd have been #1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527439) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:36 AM Author: galvanic gas station chad Do you know what the magic mojo is at Yale that makes it so renowned and purportedly unparralelled? Is there really some magic mojo, or when you get there do you find that the magic mojo stuff is just a ruse and, while it's a darn good school, there's no secret inner sanctum of cosmic knowledge?
EDIT: obviously, i'm being a little silly, but still serious. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:54 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat I know what you're getting at. There's definitely no inner sanctum of knowledge. We don't come away knowing special things you can only get at Yale. And it's the only law school I've been to, so it's hard for me to compare it with others. But from talking with my friends, I think what really distinguishes Yale is the freedom with which the law is pursued there. Few grades, few required courses, ability to do journals right away, little worry about jobs - all these things allow students to just focus on what they're interested in. And I think when you do that, when you have that sense of freedom, things happen. I'm certain that students at every school experience this, even if they don't have each of those things I mentioned above. But I haven't talked to anyone from a school where that's the dominant experience at the school. I guess if I had to boil the Yale experience down to one thing, it'd be that sense of freedom.
I'm heading to bed. It's been fun chatting with everyone - |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 1:59 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Yeah, danke Mr. Burns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527730) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 2:03 AM Author: galvanic gas station chad i thought your answer might be like that. what is there to "sit around and think about"? Don't get me wrong, i'm all for sitting around in monk-like search for truth. In fact, i can see how a program in physics or math or philosophy or english lit, etc., could be conducted like that. But is there really anything like that to do in the study of law? I mean, as soon as you start doing this free and unencumbered thinking, aren't you really stepping out of law, per se, and trapsing into political theory, philosophy, etc.? If that's the mental inclination to begin with, why don't the Yale law students just go pursue those disciplines directly instead?
I'm just not seeing how the "freedom to search for the truth" gig leads one to go to law school. Or is it more of a practical thing, like - "sure man, i wanna be all free thinking and all that cool stuff, but i don't want to be an unemployed phil phd for crying out loud!".? So, is a typical Yale law school student a "monk-like seeker of truth" who still likes to be flush with some cash and therefore chooses YLS as practical compromise?
btw - it's been fun listening to your answers. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 2:09 AM Author: Grizzly church building cuckold "I'm just not seeing how the "freedom to search for the truth" gig leads one to go to law school. Or is it more of a practical thing, like - "sure man, i wanna be all free thinking and all that cool stuff, but i don't want to be an unemployed phil phd for crying out loud!".? So, is a typical Yale law school student a "monk-like seeker of truth" who still likes to be flush with some cash and therefore chooses YLS as practical compromise?"
What's it going to be Yalies? Law school or the PHD? Sack up. |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 2:18 AM Author: Azure site Do you know whether your classmates who came straight out of undergrad (and thus arent rhodes scholars etc..) have something "extra" that made them desirable for Yale or was it more likely a 4.0/180 kind of thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527894) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 2:27 AM Author: mahogany massive stain I'll be a 1L, in from a one year UG-law school gap. Didn't do anything impressive this year. stats were 4.0/172, so nothing that great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3527945) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 3:04 PM Author: mind-boggling bull headed home digit ratio White or URM?
If URM, what kind? |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 8:33 AM Author: gay odious field idea he suggested Are there any ex-military in your class? Do you know of their experiences? Can you elaborate on them as people and the perceptions of them within the class? How much extra 'preference' are they given in admissions? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3528373) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 1:34 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat There are usually a few military academy grads in every class, but I've not talked to any of them about their experiences, nor do I even know if they've actually served yet. And I don't know how much extra preference they get. My guess would be that military service is treated like any other unique leadership experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3537633) |
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Date: August 8th, 2005 10:39 AM Author: Cordovan floppy fortuitous meteor Can you list the top five things that have happened to you or that you have heard about that have made you feel inferior to the rest of the YLS student body? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3528831) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 1:39 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat I don't think most people think of it in terms of inferior or superior. I typically don't at any rate. There are definitely a lot of moments when I've felt far less accomplished than a lot of my classmates, sure. One guy who just graduated has published something like 5 articles (yes, articles) already. Another is being considered for a tenure-track position with at least two of HYS. Several have D.Phils or Ph.Ds and aren't out of their mid-20s. Former close aids to senators. And of course the Rhodes Scholars. Is that enough? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3537673) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 1:43 AM Author: mahogany massive stain Hah. All of those things you listed are entirely inferior to my early-20s, middle american Joe Average-ness.
(in other words, I'm prepared to feel like I'm entirely lame/boring) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 1:46 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat Nah, you'll be the novelty. ;-)
There are plenty of people without those accomplishments. Those kinds of things just stand out more so they probably seem more prevalent than they are. Don't get me wrong - there's a significant number of them. But you'll be right at home, and you won't have any problem staying with them in class. |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 9:07 AM Author: exhilarant aquamarine institution "Another is being considered for a tenure-track position with at least two of HYS."
My judge got a clerkship application from that guy. Pretty impressive. |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 4:54 PM Author: Hyperventilating bawdyhouse degenerate Do you know this guy:
http://pantheon.yale.edu/~jac87/privilegebook/aboutauthor.html
He also posts at oxblog.com. Hopefully everyone at Yale isn't like him, dang! |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 5:40 PM Author: charcoal charismatic property newt Quite prestinguished! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3542460) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 1:17 AM Author: Emerald Kitty Cat In regards to the "freedom to pursue the law" questions: I didn't necessarily mean that what distinguishes Yale is the theoretical pursuit of the good/truth/justice. I meant that students have the freedom to basically do what they want. If you want to be an IP lawyer, you can sort of blow off your other stuff and focus on those classes, volunteer to help some IP lawyers on a case, whatever you want to further your becoming an IP lawyer. If you're really interested in a certain journal; an advocacy group; a subject matter, or whatever, you can focus on it. And yes, if you want to focus on the theoretical pursuit of the good, go for it. The freedom I was referring to is equally amenable to all these pursuits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3537507) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 3:01 PM Author: vermilion factory reset button Can you explain the deal with "graded" versus "non-graded" classes? I keep getting mixed answers. Basically, I'm wondering, what's the maximum number of clinics/reading groups/etc. that you can do?
Also: what's the best $6 lunch within a short walk of the law school?
BTW, thanks for your candor -- very helpful. |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 6:12 PM Author: primrose razzle-dazzle space you can take as many clinics/etc. as you want, but I think you have to take at least 9 graded credits per term. there are also limits on how many ungraded/journal/etc. classes you can count toward the 82 credits required to graduate. i think the limit is 10 ungraded, no more than 5 of which can be journals or moot court.
the best $6 lunch is the burrito cart at the corner of york and elm. no contest. |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 6:20 PM Author: magenta stag film feces Incorrect. The chicken finger basket at the EB reigns over the burrito guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3542878) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 6:32 PM Author: primrose razzle-dazzle space you can't be serious. i like EB as much as the next person, but the burrito guy is the best food in new haven. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3542990) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 6:41 PM Author: magenta stag film feces See, if you are placing the burrito guy over the likes of Louis', Modern, and the buffet at Royal India, this conversation is over.
The burrito guy is damn good, though. Even more so by comparison to all the other shitty Mexican food in New Haven. I think I heard he's connected to Roomba somehow. |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 6:35 PM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison EB? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3543025) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 6:41 PM Author: magenta stag film feces Educated Burgher (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3543070) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 6:48 PM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison Ahhh. I think I ate there during the admit weekend. The burger was good, but not great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3543099) |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 6:52 PM Author: magenta stag film feces Yeah, the burgers are OK, but not outstanding. The chicken fingers and fries, on the other hand, are great.
If you are not careful, New Haven can make you really fat. |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 6:57 PM Author: Pink comical immigrant garrison "The chicken fingers and fries, on the other hand, are great."
Sounds right up my alley...especially if they have good honey mustard.
"If you are not careful, New Haven can make you really fat."
Hence Yale's "second-largest gym in the world."
What was the name of that good pastry place you mentioned before? |
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Date: August 9th, 2005 8:10 PM Author: purple know-it-all private investor you're both wrong. it's the singapore mai fun or chicken mushroom curry soup at ivy noodle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=235061&forum_id=2#3543725) |