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ChatGPT is SPS for drafting legal documents, only useful for emails
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:11 PM Author: Jason Genova Even after feeding it my appeal brief and asking to draft oral submissions, it produced a half-assed sps product and managed to mis-cite the cases included in the appeal brief. Hopefully by some stroke of luck is lawfags will be saved from AI, or at least be one of the last to get got (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175346) |
Date: August 11th, 2025 3:12 PM Author: ...,....,,........ It is quite FAGGOT at doing any type of legal reasoning.
It's great at proofreading simple mistakes tho |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:14 PM Author: slippery socio-emotio-economic slope (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175355) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:15 PM Author: slippery socio-emotio-economic slope (gunneratttt) i finally bit the bullet and upgraded to paid GROK and it's much better. it's less than useless for research and reasoning but does a great job with proofreading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175360) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:21 PM Author: Jason Genova It has the reasoning ability but it makes too many random mistakes and hallucinations to be reliable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175379) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:25 PM Author: slippery socio-emotio-economic slope (gunneratttt) exactly.
it does an excellent job with isolated questions. especially if you want it create arguments for or against something. it's good to plug in stuff and say "create the best argument against this."
but it sucks at writing an entire thing. and it winds up costing time because you have to go through and find out what it hallucinated or fucked up. works best when tackling bite-sized issues and you just plugging it in yourself. |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: ...,....,,........ If you ask it to do anything beyond answer a simple question it just completely hallucinates bullshit arguments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175410) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:33 PM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) so it's like a person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175429) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: michael doodikoff this
also every time I use it I make sure to come in with all of my case and statute citations beforehand (which I always did when writing a motion etc). However, even when spoon feeding it these things, it tends to paraphrase them too much or even occasionally misinterpret them. I also carefully write out my own facts. But if you feed it your facts, your direct citations and tell it not to paraphrase them, then feed it a general outline of your arguments and sub arguments (and even tell it to come up with additional ones that it sees as necessary), its a good starting place IMO
Did this today with a fairly pain in the ass motion to compel that I need to start on |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:39 PM Author: slippery socio-emotio-economic slope (gunneratttt) yeah, it gives a good start to a lot of things.
i have a session where i had to keep reinforcing *JUST DO GRAMMAR, SPELLING, ETC. DO NOT ALTER CONTENT* and it still fucked with shit sometimes. after a while it stopped.
it's like having an autistic paralegal. you can trust it to do some things really well but some things it will fuck up and you can never completely trust it. rainman, second year associate. |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: ...,....,,........ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175491) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: Stuf Like a brilliant associate who works for free but sometimes shows up to court and starts cutting his thighs and smearing his own shit on the table (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175695) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:54 PM Author: slippery socio-emotio-economic slope (gunneratttt) a little prankster who likes to change just one cite out of hundreds to a hallucination just to keep you on your toes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175700) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:56 PM Author: Stuf The judge will love this game! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175709) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:30 PM Author: Jason Genova My concern is it will give prole clients the illusion that they can DIY, since it confidently spits out an ostensibly cogent output, even if it is riddled with errors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175415) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:35 PM Author: michael doodikoff they are already doing this - I deal with it all the time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175437) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:58 PM Author: Dr. Coom This is a huge issue in my life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175524) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: slippery socio-emotio-economic slope (gunneratttt) it's no different than proles coming to you, doctors, etc. with google results. hell, they can go to reddit and get live human answers that are even more fucked up than AI. there's no solution to retards who hire a professional and then second guess them. just say "ok, good luck with that!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175443) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: ...,....,,........ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175493) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:59 PM Author: Dr. Coom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175526) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: Theotokos is based You're telling me some gay dude didn't wipe out an entire profession with his weird deviant application of what was basically a search technology developed by Google? That's insane man no way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175744) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:08 PM Author: Gefilte Fish Vindaloo Case law is a major weakness for it right now. It is better at contracts and statutory research, at least for non-obscure issues. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175765) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:13 PM Author: slippery socio-emotio-economic slope (gunneratttt) recently i was interested in a speech issue and it hallucinated a bunch of SCOTUS precedent despite well know precedent existing.
it's great on black letter law which is why it's smashing the UBE. but don't expect it to find a case or summarize one faithfully. |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:13 PM Author: derek pajeeter I just let it write the arguments with fake cases and then swap in the real cases with a little tailoring. You need to know your own cases anyway so you can respond on your feet effectively in court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2#49175792) |
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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:11 PM Author: rape bunny really need to break things into small chunks, boyos
I crafted the perfect resume recently and 2x'd my salary in under 3 weeks. Each resume section and subsection was a 500+ word prompt that got refined and perfected into the end product, and cross referenced against deep research reporting. Being lazy with AI is not the answer. |