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Date: August 21st, 2025 4:10 PM Author: unhygienic gay melvin
I've used Tongkat Ali a handful of times.
It definitely bumped up my Free T, but it also suppressed my estrogen too much. Don't do it regularly because of the estrogen suppression.
However, if I'm going to go on a beach vacation and want to look extra dry and chiseled (and am willing to deal with the sides from the suppressed estrogen for a while), I'll take it for a week or two before hand to give me a dryer look. (makes the veins on my abs visible)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764530&forum_id=2#49201305) |
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Date: August 21st, 2025 5:06 PM Author: unhygienic gay melvin
Just get a blood test and see where your levels are. My estrogen came back below the reference range when I was on it -- which aligned with my subjective experience -- my sex drive dropped and had mild brain fog.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764530&forum_id=2#49201498)
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Date: August 21st, 2025 5:04 PM Author: i gave my cousin head
just found this poast on reddit, seems you are right:
Here we go again.....
Your body is smart and will adjust to abnormal level of testosterone, abnormal testosterone is a level that is higher compare to your own testosterone production, so what will happen if you take shots of testosterone or you take a supplement that will raise your testosterone level, at one point your own testosterone production will decline so you can get back to your own normal production level.
Lets say your own natural testosterone level is 600 ng/dl, now you start taking TA and your testosterone level raise by 20% up to 720 ng/dl, at one point in time your hormonal system alarm will go off, your pituitary gland will detect the over flow and send a message to the testis for them to reduce their production of testosterone by 20% so you can get back to your normal 600 ng/dl, this detection will take between (depending on the individual) 4 to 8 weeks and that is why it's important to cycle and get off TA after 4 weeks so the pituitary gland will not detect high T and send a message to have your own production cut off by 20%, by stopping TA after 4 weeks your testosterone level will gradually get back to normal and after 4 weeks you can start a new cycle.
It does not matter how much TA or real T you are taking, YOU NEED TO CYCLE and don't give me the 5 days on and 2 days off blah blah blah bullshit, if you're getting tremors just thinking about cutting off a products for 4 weeks, product that can affect your hormonal system, have at it, you want ED and other problems like that well don't cycle and stay on, to each his own.
Low T is not good either as it will be in par with low estrogen, also testosterone surplus will be converted in estrogen.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764530&forum_id=2#49201492) |
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Date: August 21st, 2025 5:12 PM Author: unhygienic gay melvin
This poast is talking about something somewhat different.
My poast was referring to estrogen suppression, which initially will happen at the same time as the initial increase in Free T.
That said, over time, the estrogen will further be suppressed down the line if/when yoru body starts simply producing lest T overall to be converterd into estrogen.
Note that if you have high estrogen to begin with, you might not need to worry about the estrogen suppression sides. However, keep an eye on them. And also cycle it regardless (if you're going to use it at all -- frankly, your "Test booster" should be eating healthy, excercising, sleeping well, avoiding GC chemicals, etc)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764530&forum_id=2#49201517) |
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