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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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mustard talented national
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Bateful round eye
  12/16/25
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mustard talented national
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Adventurous Bistre Principal's Office Degenerate
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Bateful round eye
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Adventurous Bistre Principal's Office Degenerate
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Bateful round eye
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Adventurous Bistre Principal's Office Degenerate
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
mustard talented national
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Bateful round eye
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Adventurous Bistre Principal's Office Degenerate
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Shlomo Dreidlowitz
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Many people are saying this!
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...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Chocolate floppy goyim voyeur
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Bateful round eye
  12/16/25
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Kenneth Play
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
canary ape
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Bateful round eye
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
cruel-hearted aphrodisiac public bath
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Bateful round eye
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
indecent green old irish cottage
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Bateful round eye
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Many people are saying this!
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
slate double fault
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
santa's top guy
  12/17/25
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potluck
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Many people are saying this!
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Many people are saying this!
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Shlomo Dreidlowitz
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
lascivious blood rage
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: mustard talented national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515456)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Bateful round eye

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: mustard talented national

18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515486)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Adventurous Bistre Principal's Office Degenerate

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Bateful round eye

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Adventurous Bistre Principal's Office Degenerate

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Bateful round eye

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Adventurous Bistre Principal's Office Degenerate

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: mustard talented national

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Bateful round eye

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Adventurous Bistre Principal's Office Degenerate

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Shlomo Dreidlowitz

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Many people are saying this! (דירה בתחתונים)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Chocolate floppy goyim voyeur

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Bateful round eye

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: canary ape

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Bateful round eye

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: cruel-hearted aphrodisiac public bath

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Bateful round eye

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: indecent green old irish cottage

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Bateful round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Many people are saying this! (דירה בתחתונים)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516689)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: slate double fault

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: santa's top guy

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516412)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: potluck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Many people are saying this! (דירה בתחתונים)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Many people are saying this! (דירה בתחתונים)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516681)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Shlomo Dreidlowitz

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: lascivious blood rage

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515738)