Date: August 1st, 2019 10:45 AM Author: metal wonderful sanctuary elastic band
What’s funny is that the CIA and the US think getting enough media condemnation is all it will take them to win lol. The Hong Kong protesters aren’t being nearly violet *enough* if they actually want to win
Date: August 1st, 2019 10:48 AM Author: floppy faggot firefighter chapel
There is nothing anybody can do unless they want to start a world war. Our chance to stop the CCP was in 1945. After we dropped the japs we should have just kept on marching and strangled them in the cradle. It is far far too late now.
Date: August 1st, 2019 10:47 AM Author: Trip Milky Incel
They understand the nature of power and control, and what it takes to be strong as a nation.
We do not. Decadent, pozzed, and weak, with “elites” who don’t give a fuck about anything apart from enriching themselves.
Frankly, it doesn’t matter what “people” here think about China. They are ascendant and our “people” have broken brains for the most part and can’t do anything about it.
Date: August 1st, 2019 10:54 AM Author: shivering dingle berry
lawman, please don't justify a brutal, violent crack down and slaughter of innocents for a corrupt, evil government to retain control, regardless of what you see as their advantages in certain respects w/r/t our self-hating culture.
Date: August 1st, 2019 10:55 AM Author: metal wonderful sanctuary elastic band
USA is much more evil than China because China promotes the interests of their majority while the USA does not. You would understand this if you weren’t so degenerate yourself.
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:02 AM Author: metal wonderful sanctuary elastic band
It’s not that I want them to win, I want the west to get shaken out of its degeneracy and return to reality, and it seems clear they won’t do it at all without an external threat
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:05 AM Author: Trip Milky Incel
I do not want them to win, as they are an alien race.
However, they understand reality while we do not. We have been intentionally corrupted and brainwashed so that our elites, many horrible Jews but plenty of selfish goys, can more efficiently plunder everything they can. I think it is just too late for us, and the laws of reality will dictate that they win.
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:22 AM Author: metal wonderful sanctuary elastic band
Sure so does every country but the interests of the majority and the elite are pretty close together in china currently while in america they are diametrically opposed
Date: August 1st, 2019 10:57 AM Author: Trip Milky Incel
You are incorrectly using the word “justify.”
What I am doing is describing reality. I’m not assigning a moral value to it. It is happening because this is what the laws of reality dictate. They are strong while we are decadent and weak, the equivalent of a man with Stage 5 cancer. It doesn’t matter if I “justify” it or not, how I personally feel about it, or if it upsets you. It is happening.
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:11 AM Author: Trip Milky Incel
Lol, he just doesn’t get it at all. Maybe he thinks some cosmic authority will magically put the “weak” China in its place if he clutches his pearls for long enough
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:18 AM Author: Trip Milky Incel
Why do you think that your opinion matters, or has even a .000000000000000000000000000001% chance of making any sort of difference?
It doesn’t matter if you “cow tow” to them or curse them. It doesn’t matter if you are thrilled about it, or if you think they are truly “evil” and the worst country ever. They understand reality while we do not. They are strong while we are decadent, self-interested, and infirm. They will be ascendant while we slowly decay and die. Just how it’s going to be.
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:32 AM Author: Trip Milky Incel
I get that you’re Jewish, and think the world revolves around Jews, and find a way to shoehorn Nazi Germany into every discussion, but I’m really not sure what point you think you are making ITT. China is “weak” and “evil,” therefore they won’t dominate the 21st century? Some magic force will stop them?
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:35 AM Author: shivering dingle berry
I'm using Nazi Germany as an analogy. I could also use the USSR, The Mullocracy in Iran or countless other examples of evil and oppressive authoritarian regimes, throughout history.
If your only point here is China is an authoritarian superpower that is going to throw its weight around by cracking down in evil ways in its usual style, then you're just attempting to point out the obvious? Okay...?
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:36 AM Author: Trip Milky Incel
I am pointing out the obvious, while you object and throw around irrelevant statements for no apparent reason. I don’t think anyone knows what you’re doing ITT
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:38 AM Author: shivering dingle berry
Lol, you're really a condescending idiot sometimes. So we agree you are simply here to point out "the obvious". I am putting the obvious into context, that the world is heading down a dark and bleak road, and that while China likely will dominate, because of our own mismanagement that built them up into economic superpower, there is nothing admirable or worthy about their style of "governance" or tactics, in spite of the shortcomings of our own.
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:43 AM Author: Trip Milky Incel
Ok, so what you are doing ITT is completely pointless.
It’s like both of us are standing on the beach. We see a huge tidal wave heading our way. I point out that we are fucked, because pretty soon, this wave will consume us. You just protest: “But that wave is EVIL!”
Right. The problem with the US is that we want to totally ignore reality and focus on how we wish they were. Women should make up 50 percent of engineers and minorities should be at least their percent as engineers. No other situation is acceptable.
Meanwhile, the Chinese are focusing on reality. What do they control? What is the situation on the ground? How will they defeat their enemies? Of course this is smarter.
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:14 AM Author: shivering dingle berry
I take it you have never been to Beijing and seem to know nothing about China, which is incredibly far from "homogeneous". So not only are you dumb flame, you're a bizarre moron.
Date: August 1st, 2019 10:47 AM Author: Gay narrow-minded stain pozpig
why does china have such a hard on about this? why is the status quo not working for them? this could go very badly and cause them to end up much worse off than they would be if they just left things as they are
Date: August 1st, 2019 10:48 AM Author: metal wonderful sanctuary elastic band
China’s on the ascendant and they want to and can flex their muscles. This also embarrasses trump if they win , and gives them leverage in the trade wars (North Korea leverage is kind of played out)
Date: August 1st, 2019 10:52 AM Author: Trip Milky Incel
Their entire worldview is premised on subjugation. They do not believe other countries should be independently sovereign and free. They correctly know that might makes right.
Under their worldview, China should be the world’s supreme power, while others like Taiwan and Hong Kong will be their tributaries. This is what they are working towards, and why it is essential for them to start by subjugating their neighbors under their control. They only respect strength, and are correctly calculating that we won’t and can’t stop them.
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:06 AM Author: richard clock (ggtp)
they want to ensure that hong kong is seen as an integral part of china and not some special region. theyll eventually absorb it into the prc, this law is one step along that path. they fear that if they give in at all, hk will potentially retain some degree of independence/special status
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:13 AM Author: richard clock (ggtp)
they only agreed to run HK as an SAR for like 50 years after transfer. they fully intend to incorporate it into PRC after that, and this is a step along that journey
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:20 AM Author: shivering dingle berry
So that was set to expire in 2047 at the earliest, additionally a violent military crackdown that basically turns HK in de facto PRC extension with no genuine autonomy is not a step, it's a violation and destruction of any HK sovereignty against the will of its citizens and the agreement.
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:25 AM Author: richard clock (ggtp)
its a step, the rest of your description is just bloviating. HK has no real autonomy anyway, their legislature is rigged so that PRC always has control and has the chief exec position. the only difference is that HK has some degree of freedom of speech, but obv PRC wants to change that. PRC's intimidation is meant to get HKers to accept the inevitable, the remaining 20+ years will go by quickly and China wants to set the tone ahead of time
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:29 AM Author: richard clock (ggtp)
youre fucking retarded dude, i dont support the prc's actions, im explaining their motivations. you've just done a whole lot of hand waving with no apparent point
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:03 AM Author: Gay narrow-minded stain pozpig
does the US ever produce propaganda videos like this? seems like if they were able/willing to use military force you wouldn't do a video like this. the point of a video like this is to make your military look more fierce than it actually is
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:20 AM Author: metal wonderful sanctuary elastic band
Democracy doesn’t exist even in america. We have elite control with managed public opinions via propaganda outlets. And why is democracy an end goal in itself anyway?
Date: August 1st, 2019 11:51 AM Author: richard clock (ggtp)
you might see some movement but 'plummet' is unlikely id imagine given the population pressures. most of the hk market is driven by china money anyway, which will remain. some expats may be spooked but the geographic realities of HK will support prices at a high level barring catastrophe. political change doesnt qualify imo
Date: August 1st, 2019 3:33 PM Author: lilac frozen juggernaut
lol china is going to invade its own fuking territory? LOL, u guys are so fuking stupid, they already own HK, they shld fuking execute all these dumbfuks right now
Date: August 1st, 2019 1:02 PM Author: dashing splenetic stag film private investor
They should just poison the top protest leaders or throw them off towers. Make it obvious what happened but leave room for deniability. Fat rich Hong Kongers wont fight once they see that kind of ruthlessness. Works in Russia. Its also a beautiful thing to watch. Art. Make art.
Lol you're the one who shit it up. China waited a surprisingly long time before cracking down on the protests. How long did you imagine they are going to allow it to continue?
You guys must be new to how this works. The HK authorities will "invite" them to assist. It will be a police action at the request of the government. The UK will scream, China will deny that it is a treaty violation, and everyone will move on.
You're a dolt. When there are riots putting the riots down has been standard. Allowing BS like in Paris where rioters burn large portions of the city to the ground is just dumb. This isn't supporting Communism. It is realizing that what China is about to do was inevitable.
Date: August 1st, 2019 3:52 PM Author: pale fantasy-prone menage
HK was lost in 1997, it was only a matter of time before its special status was lost too. The real test is Taiwan. If America does not push back after HK, China will be emboldened even further re Taiwan. If America does not spill blood for Taiwan after a Chinese takeover, Pax Americana is dead and so is the post-WWII world order.
People will say that it's fucking stupid to waste money and lives on some chink island on the other side of the world, but we promised to be their ally, to protect them from China. If we fail to do that then our Asian allies will all abandon us. NATO will be as worthless as a piece of toilet paper.
Global conflagration is a lot closer to becoming reality than most people realize. American isolationism and the end of its empire is a lot more likely than non-Xoers believe.
Date: August 1st, 2019 4:02 PM Author: metal wonderful sanctuary elastic band
Good post but it is in Taiwan’s interests to subsume themselves to China. Look what America is making them do now - gay marriage, horrible degeneracy and collapsed birth rates. China can take them in without war and lead to hugely increased GDP. Why wouldn’t they do this? What goes Globohomo have to offer?
Date: August 1st, 2019 4:07 PM Author: pale fantasy-prone menage
No it's not. Let's say the Taiwanese have a plebiscite and they democratically decide to give up sovereignty and join the PRC as a province, the Han would swarm in, loot the island of any tech, IP, knowhow, etc., and the island would be a shit backwater in 20 years. The CCP plays the "oh, they're are long lost brothers" card for optics. The ruling elite in Taiwan are the descendants of the KMT. All of them would be assassinated and the entire leadership of the island would be thrown into chaos.