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Date: September 27th, 2007 10:56 PM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit 1. The place was filled, and filled with fucking douches. How many fucking people are Cravath accepting? There were at least 40 CLS students there, many of them were fucking obvious retards. what the fuck.
2. Guys, they emphasized that a) the attorneys will be coming from the office and wearing suits and ties, b) you can wear business casual, but wear a jacket (Daniel requires a jacket), yet many fucking retards still showed up with nasty ass wrinkly shirts untucked and no jackets. You fucking poors.
3. One douche ACCPED HIS OFFER during dinner. They stopped everyone and made a big deal out of it. "This guy just accepted our offer!! Woohoo!" Fucking douchefag. Then he went around the room like he deserved fucking compliments.
4. Did I say 80% of the CLS students there were obvious retards? I forgot to mention the 8 Fordham transfers there. That's right, CLS students. If you didn't get an offer from Cravath, that's because these faggots from Fordham took your spots even though they scored 162 on the LSAT and couldn't get a decent undergrad GPA for their lives. Then they got dumped to Fordham, did better than the other retards there, and all of a sudden they're supposed to be smarter than you. When will CLS realize that just because these morons (by default) did better than the other imbeciles at Fordham doesn't mean they have a three-digit IQ? When will CLS stop accepting these faggots?
5. Fuck Cravath. I'm turning down the offer tomorrow.
EDIT: to clarify, i didn't just mean that the 40 CLS (well, 32, minus the Fordham fags) at the dinner were douchefags. Many undoubtedly were. But I was really trying to emphasize the fact that many were RETARDS. From my year at CLS I have met some truly bright people. Unfortunately, almost none of them were at the dinner tonight. Meanwhile, there were many retards who spoke FAR too often in class about things that revealed FAR too much of their ignorance and idiocy. Also unfortunately, almost all of them were at the dinner. |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:00 PM Author: vermilion coldplay fan ROFL at #3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698470) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:08 PM Author: supple cruel-hearted piazza hahaa, excellent thread. i very much enjoyed it.
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agreed on the part about transfers. transfers are fretards. |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:16 PM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit tyty
everything about tonight makes me sick. including the excessive amount of wine that i drank |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 1:51 AM Author: Territorial Business Firm A+ would read again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699128) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 11:10 AM Author: racy charcoal legend ... little jealous that the transfers are going to have higher GPAs than you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699764) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:26 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit of course they will. i already skipped over 50% of my classes so far. why the fuck would I care? most of the original CLS 1Ls who are off to BIGLAW and aren't retarded enough to try to clerk stop caring after 2L OCI. It's only the retarded douchefag transfers who continue to gun throughout the rest of law school.
I'm not even going to make stone scholar this year and next, i'm calling it. So what? what does that have to do with my thread? |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 3:32 PM Author: hairraiser newt stock car "4. Did I say 80% of the CLS students there were obvious retards? I forgot to mention the 8 Fordham transfers there. That's right, CLS students. If you didn't get an offer from Cravath, that's because these faggots from Fordham took your spots even though they scored 162 on the LSAT and couldn't get a decent undergrad GPA for their lives. Then they got dumped to Fordham, did better than the other retards there, and all of a sudden they're supposed to be smarter than you. When will CLS realize that just because these morons (by default) did better than the other imbeciles at Fordham doesn't mean they have a three-digit IQ? When will CLS stop accepting these faggots? " Actually, these "faggots" would have gotten cravath offers had they stayed at Fordham. So, had they not transfered, 32 Columbia students would have been at the Columbia dinner and 8 more would have been at the Fordham one. I hope this helps. xoxo, 2nd Yr. BigLaw Loligator. |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:28 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit actually, cravath would never accept 8 students from fordham in a single year, even if they all turn out to be SCOTUS clerk materials. If you know anything about Cravath you would know that. you just exposed yourself as a retarded 0L who would never even get a chance to interview with Cravath. But good luck with Wayne State (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703786) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 3:54 PM Author: hairraiser newt stock car I googled Cravath and went to "attorney search." Looks like aside from the HYS standard the next primary set of law schools was from NYC. (correct me if I'm wrong - I think Fordam is in the city? - sorry not from there).
Anyways, there were 32 attorneys listed from Fordham, compared w/ 64 from NYU, and 82 from Columbia.
There were less than 20 attorneys from each of these schools I looked up: Cornell, Penn, Chicago, Georgetown, UVA. (and for the record, ok, only 9 from Stanford).
Another note is I didn't pay attn to attorneys' titles and what they might have implied.
But all in all, it didn't look too bad for Fordam...
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Date: September 28th, 2007 4:00 PM Author: balding free-loading bbw senate *accepts his Cravath offer*
*expects compliments*
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*drops glasses*
*demands money* |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:29 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703787) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 7:51 PM Author: Laughsome private investor 176 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8702150) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 8:54 PM Author: Boyish principal's office ladyboy before you get your panties in a bunch, why not list some of the better BIGLAW firms in nyc that aren't recruiting from the same pool you are talking about. the simpson and dpw offer dinners for CLS had mostly the same people. face it, if you didn't get wachtell, and it doesn't sound like you did - learn to live with your own mediocrity and stop being such a bitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8702457) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:24 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit i actually did get an offer from wachtell. i wasn't going to mention it because i was planning to accept and didn't want to get close to outting myself (there're only about 5-6 of us from CLS I believe, and at least 3-4 are clearly not XOXOers)
but after thinking about it, i'm not going to do wachtell either. I don't have the energy to explain that decision.
But yes, you're right - the reception dinners at other top firms will be essentially the same. But then i think the proper response would be for me to write a similar thread for each dinner reception, and not omit my tirades altogether. what do you think? |
Date: September 27th, 2007 11:00 PM Author: Galvanic Rehab rofl. cravath = TTT. CLS = TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698471) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:01 PM Author: Territorial Business Firm "CLS = TTT."
no shit |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:03 PM Author: Spectacular Stead Party Of The First Part Nice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698482) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:11 PM Author: aromatic pearly shrine factory reset button this sounds eerily similar to my cravath offer dinner. those people are unbearable. the night completely turned me off from the firm.
2 people accepted over the course of our evening. |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:17 PM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit i just threw up in my mouth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698525) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:19 PM Author: aromatic pearly shrine factory reset button they bought a bottle of dom when the first person accepted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698530) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:20 PM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit they must all felt so good. douchefags doing douchefaggory things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698543) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:52 AM Author: Navy razzle-dazzle police squad stag film LMFAO. douche-tastic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698919) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 3:25 PM Author: Glittery coffee pot Weak. A harder firm would have popped for Cristal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8701062) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 8:11 PM Author: contagious menage Tey must be down w/ fitty. drinkin dom perignon they dont need cris (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8702258) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:23 PM Author: Mischievous lettuce institution rofl rofl rofl
my boyfriend just called me to tell me about #3. he said the guy was a huge douchebag |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:30 PM Author: Mind-boggling Sooty Office Ceo the saddest thing is that all the naive 0L/1L lurkers on here will think that this is flame, when it is totally not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698588) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:34 PM Author: Effete lodge place of business At my 2L firm, at the end-of-summer dinner, people kept accepting and they kept making a big deal about it and I wanted to slink away and die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698603) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 5:45 PM Author: Territorial Business Firm all of those little punks will leave their firm in three years anyways because they cannot hack it. i think it is so stupid when people make a big deal about going to biglaw. newsflash you fucker, you're probably not going to be able to hack it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8701737) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:30 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703789) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:37 PM Author: federal hissy fit Wow, seriosuly 40+ CLS students? That's impressive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698617) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:20 PM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap cravath, like many other factories, cannot afford premium inputs, so it purchases low-quality inputs in bulk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8700646) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:37 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit highly - and sadly - credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703797) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:39 PM Author: zippy tank this past summer's stats say 20 CLS students were in the class. 20/40 = 50% hit rate, which would be pretty damn high. too bad about the fordham retards! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698633) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:47 PM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit you know, normally i don't give a fuck about transfer students. but all the ones i've met (from cornell, fordham...) are uniformly stupid. and i've met plenty of them. the worst thing is they're all gunners, but they're worse than the 1L gunners since they're actually stupid. i guess they're used to being among retards so they actually think they're smart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698666) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:48 PM Author: smoky wild electric furnace ape this thread is awesome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698670) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:49 PM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit tyty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698678) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:54 AM Author: Navy razzle-dazzle police squad stag film you're awesome dood. keep up the good work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698926) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:51 PM Author: Bright parlor rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698688) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:54 PM Author: deep fiercely-loyal center i don't get your post. can you explain especially 1)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698696) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:18 AM Author: Bright parlor rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698770) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:26 AM Author: deep fiercely-loyal center got it, thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698801) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 7:56 AM Author: contagious menage "I'm hypothesizing that the type of student who goes to a "TTT" often aspires to a very different career than someone who goes to better ranked law school. Many folks at T14s have aspirations and options that are far more interesting than law firms, and are less likely to be content working shit hours at a law firm."
this is horrendously inaccurate. the primary reason for going to a t6 is you automatically get biglaw. if you wanted to save the world youd take a full ride at a t50 |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 11:08 AM Author: opaque corner digit ratio except that you're unemployable at most prestigious government agencies, public interest groups, etc and not competitive for DOJ honors, fellowships, law professor & c. if you come from a non T14 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699753) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 3:13 PM Author: garnet trip parlour hairy legs Plus, many top schools have loan repayment programs for those that want to save the world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8700989) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 8:11 PM Author: contagious menage Doesnt matter. The vast majority of H grads go to biglaw. Sure the 5% who try to save the world have more 'prestigious' world saving jobs than the do-gooders at ttts, but H grads go into biglaw at an exponentially greater rate than ttts. I cant believe i have to explaing this to you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8702255) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 8:06 PM Author: contagious menage Your 'hypothesis' may be logical, but its horribly inaccurate. 'Aspirations and options' aside, the fact is that people at t14s go into biglaw at an exponentially greater rate than people at ttts. Of course someone may go to Stanford wanting to work for the EPA and may have the chance to do so, but once they realize they can make 4x as much in their 1st year at a firm they decide otherwise.
I'm hypothesizing that the type of student who goes to a "TTT" often aspires to a very different career than someone who goes to better ranked law school. Many folks at T14s have aspirations and options that are far more interesting than law firms, and are less likely to be content working shit hours at a law firm. |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:21 PM Author: opaque corner digit ratio obviously ppl at T14s go into firms at higher rates because firms will hire them more often. I'm talking about desire to work for a firm, not opportunity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704340) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:14 AM Author: marvelous filthpig that is funny. At CLS the transfers seem to do a lot better. A lot of the original students at CLS aren't cut out for law school and law school exams, but the transfers are, so they tend to do better. Lots of kent scholar transfers. Also, they tend to work harder as 2Ls because they want to prove themselves. Alot of the transfers though are striver douches.
The sadder people are original CLS students who never do better than a B+ their entire career and end up choosing between Stroock and Katten Munchin (aka: unprestigious sweatshops. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:19 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit i actually mostly agree with you said. but i will add that 99% of CLS stop trying after 2L OCI, so kent scholar doesn't mean anything after 1L
but i wholeheartedly agree about transfers are striver douches, and that the CLS idiots who can't even ride the CLS name into a respectable firm are pathetic. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:21 AM Author: Bright parlor rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698782) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:26 AM Author: marvelous filthpig I actually noticed that the transfers from the good schools are the ones that slack because they had nothing to prove. They already went to a good school and did well. The TTT transfers are the ones with something left to prove (that they can do well at a good school) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698803) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:51 PM Author: deep fiercely-loyal center this thread is truly fucking awesome. thanks for everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698690) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:56 PM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap liquidating prestige to enrich the current partnership. only self-flagellating prestige-obsessed douchetards go there. cravath and cls were meant for each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698701) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 11:58 PM Author: bronze disgusting plaza preventive strike highly credit. too bad this model isn't sustainable. a few more years of this and cravath will be at best on par with dpw, S&C, simpson...
and then soon, cravath will become the rancid shithole that is skadden. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:06 AM Author: aromatic pearly shrine factory reset button lol at cravath not being at par with those firms already (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698741) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:09 AM Author: abnormal box office black woman no, to be fair, to most naive ignorant 1Ls Cravath is still a little more prestigious than dpw and S&C. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698753) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:10 AM Author: aromatic pearly shrine factory reset button this is true, but nobody in the know puts them on a pedestal anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698756) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:17 AM Author: Sable clown "too bad this model isn't sustainable."
wtf are you talking about? the douche gunners at cravath are probably going to satisfy clients better than the chillers at DPW. cravath probably finds it more sensible to impress clients than xoxo posters. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:34 AM Author: bronze disgusting plaza preventive strike we're talking about different things. I was referring to the fact that they hire bigger and bigger classes filled with retards (hence liquidating their prestige).
if they hire real douche gunners instead of chillers, I don't think they'd be slipping like they are.
XOXOers laugh at Cravath not because it's full of gunners, because it's not, at least not anymore. They laugh because it's actually filled with retards. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:34 AM Author: avocado angry dysfunction Of course it's sustainable. The single thing law students know about firms is where Vault ranks them. Just look at all the retards on this board having nonsensical arguments about which firms are "better" than others when they know jack-fucking-shit about them. It will always be at the top of the list and students will continue to go there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698838) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:36 AM Author: bronze disgusting plaza preventive strike but that's precisely my point! a few more years of hiring retards from shit schools, and even vault won't rank cravath at 2nd anymore, don't you think? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698846) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:41 AM Author: avocado angry dysfunction Of course they will. Because people who are actually lawyers know more about the firm than how many summers they hired from CLS or Fordham. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698867) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:47 AM Author: Sable clown titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698885) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 1:36 AM Author: bronze disgusting plaza preventive strike but that's assuming that there is something about the firm to know that illustrates quality and prestige, which goes against the entire premise of this discussion, and that is Cravath has been liquidating its prestige by indiscriminately hiring shit students from everywhere.
If you think that Cravath is still hiring quality students, then of course its model is sustainable. But then I don't even understand what we're arguing about anymore |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 1:44 AM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef Of course Cravath is still hiring quality students. You're an idiot if you think otherwise. Is this thread supposed to prove that Cravath isn't hiring quality students? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699092) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 1:49 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit Did you even read my post you fucking retard brainless cravah troll? Cravath hired nearly 10 Fordham students who are obvious retards (trust me, i have MANY classes with these guys this term, and they're STUPID).
Even the original CLS students that Cravath hired, many were wannabe gunners who couldn't even give a decent answer in class for their lives. You would be just as angry as I am at these retards if you're sitting in class with these morons, trust me man |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:03 AM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef And you know the grades of these students, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699165) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:11 AM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef So what firm are you going to instead? If you got a Wachtell offer, congratulations. If not and you want to stay in New York, Cravath is as good as it gets. Sorry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699189) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 10:46 AM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap DPW & STB > CSM, hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699649) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:17 PM Author: zippy tank sorry, factory-like STB isn't in the same sentence as those other two.
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:14 PM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap sorry, it belongs at least with factory-like cravath. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8700613) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 3:31 PM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef loafer, you're obviously ignorant about the NYC market. If you throw in Simpson, why are you leaving out Cleary?
My friend at Columbia says that a lot of the best students there go to Cravath. Among peer NY firms (DPW, S&C, even Simpson though I don't consider it a peer) Cravath is more selective and has a yield that is twice as high.
There are plenty of reasons for not wanting to work in New York or not wanting to work at Cravath. But if you're dead-set on being in New York and you don't get a Wachtell offer, Cravath is about as good as it gets. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 5:42 PM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap you're right, cleary belongs in the group as well. i didn't exclude it intentionally.
"My friend at Columbia says that a lot of the best students there go to Cravath."
that's a great reason not to go to cravath. columbia students tend to be huge douchebags.
i go to stanford and i can tell you that almost no one goes to cravath, even though plenty go to new york. it's not for lack of an offer, either; last year, at least seven students in my class got an offer and turned it down. i think one accepted.
"Cravath is more selective and has a yield that is twice as high"
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Date: September 28th, 2007 5:59 PM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef All right loafer, I know that the perception of certain firms varies at certain schools. Cravath obviously doesn't have good yield at SLS. Accordingly, Cravath might be willing to dip lower to get SLS students. So it's understandable that you have a poor view of Cravath -- both as a firm and b/c of it's selectivity.
But you should realize that it's different on the east coast, where Cravath routinely gets top students from CLS, NYU, HLS, and YLS. That's four of the top six law schools in the country.
I'm also annoyed that you keep bashing the firm even though you don't know that much about it --- e.g., you haven't done a callback there. You seem like a bright guy, so you probably could get an offer there; I'm not bashing on that account. But I think there's something to be said about seeing the office and talking to Cravath lawyers that would make your opinions about the firm more meaningful. For example, two very respected posters --- rk938 and Renada ---- have both done callbacks at Cravath and have said very positive things about the firm.
Finally, according to the CLS EIP data that was posted on this site, last year Cravath was 17 acceptances out of 31 offers; DPW was 9/39; S&C was 14/42; Simpson was 20/57; Clearly was 10/46.
It might be true that Cravath screens for people who are particularly ethusiastic about the firm (and the rotation system), so there yield is a bit higher. But it seems that CLS students interviewing with top NY firms would also interview with Cravath, and that the top NY firms are all chasing the 50 or so "top candidates" from CLS. Out of these "top candidates" Cravath is winning the yield war by quite a large margin. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 9:17 PM Author: curious market sneaky criminal "Finally, according to the CLS EIP data that was posted on this site, last year Cravath was 17 acceptances out of 31 offers; DPW was 9/39; S&C was 14/42; Simpson was 20/57; Clearly was 10/46."
Very interesting data, mainly because it shows how much CLS students (at least your year) have preferences that are widely different from those of HLS students. Only 9/39 at Davis is insane, on the one hand, and 14/42 at S&C and 20/57 at STB is far higher than would be expected. At HLS, I can't remember anyone who picked S&C or STB over DPW (and those who chose between S&C and STB, like at Columbia, were about evenly split). |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 5:00 PM Author: crystalline theatre organic girlfriend lol at the dipshit who thinks that 'smart' answers in class have anything to do with being successful in the Biglaw grind. You sound like a classic fucking 2L with your dick hard over a few job offers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870629) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:09 AM Author: avocado angry dysfunction Do you think anyone is evaluating the firm on the basis of the perceived quality of their first-year associates? Are you really this oblivious? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699177) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:14 PM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap yeah, seriously, in a firm that never hires a lateral, what could the quality of first-year associates possibly say about the future of the firm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8700609) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 5:53 PM Author: exhilarant knife but the firm believes that the "cravath system" can turn ignorant first-years into superstar attorneys. they're looking for people they can train to be the best... no one really knows how to practice law just because they pass the bar.
the douches are, of course, a downside to the firm. but you can't say the training isn't awesome. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 6:05 PM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap the criticism wasn't that these guys don't know how to practice law, it's that they're retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8701818) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 6:08 PM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef loafer, if you resort to name-calling or ridiculous hyperbole, it's tough to take your arguments seriously. Look, I know that Cravath isn't the most selective firm in the world at your school. Shit happens. But that doesn't change the fact that Cravath gets great students from CLS/NYU/HLS/YLS.
And back when Cravath announced bonuses, didn't you say that Cravath was shafting their associates who were "some of the most talented in the country"? |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 6:25 PM Author: exhilarant knife Do you/are you going to work at Cravath? This is not a slam; I'm just considering several offers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8701881) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 6:28 PM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef I have a 2L offer yeah. And my friend at CLS was there last summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8701889) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:01 AM Author: abnormal box office black woman cravath accepting low-level retards is frightening similar to CLS accepting fordham transfers. this is a wonderful partnership. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698716) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:03 AM Author: Cyan skinny woman space Cravath clearly seems to dip lower in the class in recent years, both in terms of grades and personality.
OP's post pretty much reaffirms that WLRK is now the only truly prestigious law firm in NYC. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:08 AM Author: Comical up-to-no-good shitlib wtf is a discovery attorney? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698746) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:10 AM Author: abnormal box office black woman wtf are you talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698754) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:12 AM Author: Comical up-to-no-good shitlib cravath has "discovery attorneys." i mean, i can figure it out, but why the fuck are they even listed on the website? they arent even real associates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698759) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:13 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit No idea. It won't be the first stupid thing Cravath has done (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698761) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 10:47 AM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap like using an all-flash website, for example (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699656) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 5:55 PM Author: exhilarant knife they're the people who do doc review so first-year associates don't have to. weird that they're on the site, but i guess the idea is to make them feel like part of the team. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8701776) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 1:39 AM Author: Tripping umber goal in life address They do the first pass on doc review, but not all of it. Junior associates still have to do document review if their team is working on a case that's in the middle of discovery. But, from talking to juniors at other firms, I would say that Cravath 1st years do less document review (on average). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703464) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 6:13 AM Author: Vivacious Station Wagecucks "I would say that Cravath 1st years do less document review (on average)."
Nah, most peer firms have these people too. |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 2:09 PM Author: exhilarant knife They do, but your work at Cravath depends on your rotation--one 3rd yr. associate had done no doc review; another said he only did it for a smaller number of docs that had already been edited down.
One T15 firm basically said 1st and 2nd yr work was primarily doc review. |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 3:10 PM Author: Tripping umber goal in life address This is correct. Most top firms have discovery attorneys. That's not what helps CSM first-years avoid doc review. It's the rotation system. Some people get away with doing almost none, others do occasionally get pwned with a lot. I stand by my statement that Cravath associates often end up doing much less than their peers at similar firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8705030) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:19 AM Author: underhanded boltzmann why would anyone hire someone from Fordham? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698774) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:21 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit no fucking clue. the thing is, they don't even wait to see how these fordham faggots end up doing in CLS (which is already a bad indicator, since CLS students stop trying after 1L, but still), but they hire these transfers BEFORE they even step into CLS. it's fucking disgusting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698785) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:36 AM Author: avocado angry dysfunction Because they're not at Fordham; they're at CLS. That way Cravath can say they have like 20 summers a year from CLS and one from Fordham. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698848) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:38 AM Author: bronze disgusting plaza preventive strike this is sadly credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698855) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:23 AM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef This anti-trolling for Cravath is ridiculous.
Cravath is the second best firm in New York. The best firm happens to be the most selective firm in the country, so good luck getting a job there.
All of the top students at Columbia interview with Cravath. So Cravath effectively has its choice (at least when it comes to extending offers) of the very best Columbia students. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:32 AM Author: Comical up-to-no-good shitlib except for those people who turn them down (there are several on this thread alone, and someone reported a 20/40 last year) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698829) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:37 AM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef That sort of yield rate blows away every comparable firm in New York. It's like twice the yield rate of DPW and S&C. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698851) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:48 AM Author: Sable clown it was 17/31 in 2006 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698891) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 6:16 AM Author: Vivacious Station Wagecucks You do realize that CSM is notorious from only making offers to people they think are going to accept, right?
The yield numbers are interesting, but not as useful as you might think since some firms (like CSM) play towards the numbers while others don't. |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:06 PM Author: Sable clown "CSM is notorious from only making offers to people they think are going to accept"
link? |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:39 AM Author: avocado angry dysfunction And it's important to remember that there aren't anywhere near 40 non-douchebags at CLS, so any group of Columbia students that large will be very douchey. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698859) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 1:32 AM Author: Mind-boggling Sooty Office Ceo this is credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699043) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 10:48 AM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap so, so credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699660) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 1:42 PM Author: supple cruel-hearted piazza "The best firm happens to be the most selective firm in the country"
I would dispute this, and so would Vault. Williams & Connolly and Munger are both often ranked as more selective, and anecdotal evidence suggests that Vault's selectivity ranking probably isn't terribly inaccurate in this regard. |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 1:15 AM Author: Tripping umber goal in life address Vault selectivity rankings are based on associates' perceptions of how selective particular firms are. They are completely subjective and useless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703415) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 6:17 AM Author: Vivacious Station Wagecucks its a somewhat useless comparison, since the people who want work at W&C tend to be quite different from the people who want to work at Wachtell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703820) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:41 AM Author: Lemon heaven thank you for this. i think one of our partners used to work at cravath but i can't be sure. he's really ugly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8698863) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 1:40 AM Author: Passionate Crimson Abode Goyim Great post OP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699069) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 1:43 AM Author: blathering messiness agree. this is an excellent post that should be read by every naive prestige whore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699087) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 1:45 AM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef The three people above me on this "tree" were all dingfagged by Cravath. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699097) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:31 AM Author: Olive set The world must have started to spin a little for you when you realized all those prestige points were non-redeemable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699240) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 10:55 AM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap even worse, that they didn't really exist, and that no one who really matters is impressed that you work at a rancid declining TTT of a firm because you couldn't get a job at a better one.
wachtell destroys them in corporate practice. and in litigation, covington and w&c are both far superior. anyone who goes to nyc specifically to do litigation is a little suspect already; basically you have three lies you can try to sell:
-those other firms are not in nyc and hence you did not apply to them: you're an idiot -you applied to them and got rejected: you're an idiot -those other firms offered you a job but you turned them down because you had your heart set on nyc: no one will believe this, and if they did, it still makes you look like an idiot. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:20 PM Author: zippy tank spending all day on a message board spewing short-sighted hate about a firm you have never worked at makes YOU look like an idiot.
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:17 PM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap short-sighted? if anything i am taking the long view about cravath's future. the firm never hires laterals. the quality of its first-year associates is the future quality of the firm.
anyway, whether i look like an idiot seems rather beside the point. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 3:34 PM Author: nighttime emerald roast beef Is this thread supposed to say something about the quality of Cravath's first year associates? If so, I don't get it.
The OP's only insight is: (1) they sound dumb in class, and (2) some of them transferred from Fordham. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 5:37 PM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap (3) there are forty of them from CLS alone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8701711) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 11:41 AM Author: Sable clown in 2006, cravath made 31 (17 accepted) offers at CLS. DPW made 38 (9), S&C made 42 (14), and STB made 57 (20). there goes your theory.
face it, you'll never win on your anti-cravath trolling. just like you never convinced anyone that nyu>columbia or that stanford>harvard. in fact, you do a good job persuading in the opposite direction, because it's so transparent how hard you must toil and stretch to make your counter-intuitive and unsubstantiated points. |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 1:49 AM Author: Tripping umber goal in life address The quality of the first year associates as a whole has little to do with the future of any firm with a business model that revolves around planned attrition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703476) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:36 AM Author: 180 lavender giraffe masturbator The only thing worse than being dinged at Cravath is attending UMich. What a TTT! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699253) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 10:49 AM Author: contagious menage This is good stuff.
That said, there are a lot people on this thread who vastly overestimate the baseline level of competency necessary to do well in biglaw. And who think a couple points on the lsat makes or breaks an attorney. |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 11:17 AM Author: Territorial Business Firm that should be obvious from the very nature of the lsat which is to make or break attorneys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699799) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 10:52 AM Author: Territorial Business Firm I have it on good authority that the dude who accepted his offer during the dinner was a plant, he will not be going to Cravath at all. He was paid $200 bucks by his friend on cravath's recruiting committee to make the firm look good and influence people to accept with his above-average social skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8699671) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 12:26 PM Author: Navy razzle-dazzle police squad stag film Flame, CSM does not give offers to people with "above-average social skills." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8700065) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 2:18 PM Author: provocative tan base mad-dog skullcap or, apparently, people with above-average thinking skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8700632) |
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Date: September 28th, 2007 9:10 PM Author: Boyish principal's office ladyboy OP - curious where else you are looking. the same people you can't stand were at the offer dinner/reception for dpw and stb as well - (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8702512) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:38 AM Author: Hairless Gaped Orchestra Pit you know what? you're right - the reception dinners at other top firms have been and will be essentially the same. But then i think the proper response would be for me to write a similar thread for each dinner reception, and not omit my tirades altogether. what do you think? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703798) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 8:35 AM Author: Boyish principal's office ladyboy be my guest if you have enough time but i doubt it will receive as many comments since cravath seems to have some sort of hate following. my only point was that it's clear you are primarily looking only at top firms and the distribution of normal people at top firms (or top law schools) is going to always be shitty. no point in complaining about the cravath dinner when the same thread could probably be as accurate in describing nearly every other pool of recruits for all other v1-5 top nyc firm receptions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703849) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 10:29 AM Author: Adventurous whorehouse crotch Cravath screws over their associates more than any other firm, and depresses market salaries by doing so. The hate is very much warranted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703948) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:41 AM Author: blathering messiness 180^180
we need more threads like this one |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 6:21 AM Author: Vivacious Station Wagecucks You people are so funny. Once you start working, all of this will seem rather stupid. All of these firms are good firms, and you will be trained well. The fact that your firm is going to have to hire some douches to get the work done is not going to make their business model implode. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703822) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 10:35 AM Author: idiotic church mediation You people talking about Cravath's yield are pretty funny. This summer I shared an office a Yale kid who let me look at the YLS OCI stats just for fun. At Yale, Cravath's yield is about half of DPW's and is lower than S&C, Cleary, and even Debevoise.
CLS's Cravath yield is through the roof because people who go to CLS are ignorant prestige hounds who think Vault means something. At HYS where the students actually know stuff about firms and can get offers from most places they want, Cravath strikes out a lot. |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 10:37 AM Author: Cordovan Odious Sound Barrier this is my understanding as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8703973) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 11:41 AM Author: exhilarant knife If that's true, it hasn't been in past years. Both CSM and DPW have an identical number of Yale students: 25. Coincidentally, they also have the exact same number of partners: 9.
They are also nearly identical in size (DP=477 v. C=484). |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 11:45 AM Author: idiotic church mediation Lol. You must not be very good at math. The number of Yale people currently employed at CSM and DPW is a very poor indicator of 2L summer offer yield. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704196) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 11:51 AM Author: exhilarant knife Certainly you have to make some assumptions: that people accept their offers (most at my school do), that a similar number of offers are issued (they are to cls students), and that none of these hires are laterals (which you know they aren't at cravath; don't know how extensively dpw hires laterally). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704215) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 11:48 AM Author: Cordovan Odious Sound Barrier you have to look at recent years. like this hit from 2005 "Cravath yield at Yale: 16 offers, 1 acceptance"
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=141092&mc=121&forum_id=2 |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:00 PM Author: Sable clown O RLY?
yale had 14 summers in 2006 (http://lawfirmaddict.blogspot.com/)
yale had 6 summers in 2007 (http://lawfirmaddict2007.blogspot.com/)
ACTUALFACTSPWN3D |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:01 PM Author: Cordovan Odious Sound Barrier that thread is about the summer class of 2005. READINGCOMPREHENSIONPWNED. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704260) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:07 PM Author: Sable clown you: "you have to look at recent years"
CHANGINGTHEGOALPOSTSPWN3D |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:09 PM Author: razzmatazz university youre both idiots.
RETARDEDARGUMENTPWN3d |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:12 PM Author: Glittery coffee pot FOLLOWINGRETARDCONVERSATIONSPWN3D! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704306) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:15 PM Author: razzmatazz university IJUSTWANTEDINONTHESTRINGOFPWNINGPWN3D (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704319) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 8:10 PM Author: cerebral hell as a fan of PWND-permutations, i enjoyed this exchange immensely. |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:11 PM Author: Cordovan Odious Sound Barrier 2005 is recent, and that 1 for 16 is awful. it is cravath who was forced to change the goalposts by going from 16 to 31 offers at yls in order to get some people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704304) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:13 PM Author: Sable clown link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704312) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 9:20 PM Author: curious market sneaky criminal Why only 31 offers at YLS? At least 80% of students at YLS would get offers from Cravath if they were at Columbia (where they would be in the top 10 to 20%). If Cravath only makes 30 offers at YLS, it is no surprise that there are few acceptances, because many Yale 2Ls can get and would much rather go to the most selective DC firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8706474) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:10 PM Author: idiotic church mediation Unfortunately, I can't tell you what school I go to, but I am looking at my school's OCI data and that site, and either my school's data is wrong, or many of the numbers on that site are wrong. They do not match up. Off by more than just 1 or 2. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704297) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:13 PM Author: Sable clown "I can't tell you what school I go to" lol why? do you go to a school with 3 students?
post teh complete data (like the CLS posters did) or STFU
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:18 PM Author: idiotic church mediation I'm not willing to risk being outted for the sake of proving my point. Sorry. I'm telling you, the data for my school is wrong. I have no reason to lie. Believe me or not. *shrugs* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704331) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 11:55 AM Author: Sable clown yeah, people supporting cravath point to solid data (substantiated data like OCI stats). anti-cravath trolls insist on retarded anecdotes and meaningless surveys. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704235) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 11:57 AM Author: Territorial Business Firm Someone please email this thread to their hiring partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704241) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 12:29 PM Author: hairraiser newt stock car done and done. hope he's at work on saturdays! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704364) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 2:00 PM Author: infuriating hunting ground home lol @ people not posting anymore after this was forwarded to the CSM hiring folks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8704740) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:20 PM Author: drab blood rage site This is pretty funny, but is representative of most firms' dinner events. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8705301) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 4:47 PM Author: Translucent Library Rigpig Should've gone to Bryan Cave. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#8705386) |
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Date: September 29th, 2007 9:04 PM Author: burgundy boiling water This thread is awesome.
I was at the dinner too, so I know exactly what you're talking about. |
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Date: January 16th, 2008 5:30 PM Author: Unhinged aphrodisiac point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9173317) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 12:49 PM Author: Mauve Big Legal Warrant Cravath has 7 summer associates from Fordham this year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870089) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 1:33 PM Author: bearded dilemma that's disgusting / I have no idea why that firm has such a hard on for that disgusting factory why so many of the fordhamites?
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Date: June 8th, 2008 2:00 PM Author: Mauve Big Legal Warrant Cravath is, as discussed above, liquidating its prestige. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870195) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 7:10 PM Author: bearded dilemma Again, WHY?!? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870991) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 2:01 PM Author: Multi-colored Tantric Brunch Corn Cake who cares? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870197) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 2:11 PM Author: magenta stage telephone Sounds like a pyramid scheme -- where else is there such excitement for "signing up"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870215) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 8:28 PM Author: Razzle locale Always Be Closing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9871220) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 9:01 PM Author: magenta stage telephone Underrated Boiler Room reference... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9871320) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 9:04 PM Author: rusted charismatic alpha Overrated Boiler Room reference.
Underrated Glengarry Glen Ross reference. |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 9:10 PM Author: magenta stage telephone Looks like I got pwned. Never saw Glengarry Glen Ross. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9871346) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 9:44 PM Author: rusted charismatic alpha Check it out. If you like Boiler Room you'll like it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9871433) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 2:13 PM Author: Soggy den I thought the OP was exaggerating back when this was posted, but now that we know Cravath has 160 summers with 30+ from Columbia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870225) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 2:23 PM Author: naked affirmative action school cafeteria I thought OP was flame too. But I can confirm that Cravath is crawling with pathetic Fordham faggots / Fordham faggot transfers and CLS median morons this summer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870240) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 5:11 PM Author: Honey-headed voyeur gas station Poor XOXO trash translated: "Wait a minute, big law firms in New York City hire heavily from the best regional law school in New York City? But didn't Fordham students on average get one less question right per section on the LSAT? It's almost like half of Fordham students have the same opportunities in New York as three quarters of the Columbia students. I didn't scrape my way into Yale and Columbia on hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars of loans to get the same job as some rich New York kid. My dad was right! I should have just been a coal-miner." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870656) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 5:23 PM Author: Multi-colored Tantric Brunch Corn Cake the substance here is right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870690) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 5:24 PM Author: Honey-headed voyeur gas station It's the only reason I can come up with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870698) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 5:30 PM Author: slate church building ROFL. What pathetic faggot Fordham trolling. I'm sorry that you're a retard who could only get into Fordham, but trolling like this really makes me throw up in my mouth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870718) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 5:31 PM Author: Honey-headed voyeur gas station Uh-huh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870722) |
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Date: June 8th, 2008 7:12 PM Author: bearded dilemma shiTTTy Fordham trolling, but I like the new angle. keep it up! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=693081&forum_id=2#9870995) |
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Date: June 9th, 2008 12:23 AM Author: Talented khaki garrison "It's almost like half of Fordham students have the same opportunities in New York as three quarters of the Columbia students."
If your only desire is to be a septic repair man, a homeless guy, or an associate at Cravath, you are admittedly wasting your premium law degree. |