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anyone here ever finish infinite jest

i did 400 pages
useless legend
  07/15/20
I did 40
crusty bipolar address cuckoldry
  07/15/20
nice
useless legend
  07/15/20
Never tried.
charismatic light idiot
  07/15/20
poast moniker synergy
useless legend
  07/15/20
yeah
odious judgmental piazza
  07/15/20
should i read the other 600 pages
useless legend
  07/15/20
eh... did you LIKE the first 400 pages? imo in some sense t...
odious judgmental piazza
  07/15/20
agree with this. if you don't want to put in that much time ...
Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit
  07/15/20
...
crusty bipolar address cuckoldry
  07/15/20
yeah i thought it was great but then i started reading anoth...
useless legend
  07/15/20
Yeah.
Appetizing dilemma mad cow disease
  07/15/20
yeah
Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit
  07/15/20
by the time i got it i didn't have a ton of time to devote t...
slap-happy school cafeteria
  07/15/20
I did finish, after like a month and a half. I regret it.
aphrodisiac orange multi-billionaire
  07/15/20
faggot
Nudist sneaky criminal
  07/15/20
whok probably did
hilarious aromatic haunted graveyard
  07/15/20
shit, pure shit
obsidian center yarmulke
  07/15/20
It is shocking how dated and frivolous that book seems now. ...
Concupiscible violent range
  07/15/20
titcr
obsidian center yarmulke
  07/15/20
That's always the vibe I got of this book
laughsome fat ankles
  07/15/20
...
useless legend
  07/15/20
You must not have understood it. It's more relevant than ev...
ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea
  07/15/20
i wonder why he thought cartridges would be the next medium ...
useless legend
  07/15/20
The specific technology (which feels dated as fuck) is much ...
Nudist sneaky criminal
  07/15/20
yeah im not a fucking retard okay? i read 400 pages of infin...
useless legend
  07/15/20
interesting
laughsome fat ankles
  07/15/20
agree and disagree. it did not predict today's social and po...
Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit
  07/15/20
i think the fixation on addiction and substance abuse is sor...
useless legend
  07/15/20
some would even consider xo the Ultimate Entertainment
Nudist sneaky criminal
  07/15/20
...
useless legend
  07/15/20
some?
Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit
  07/15/20
...
ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea
  07/15/20
...
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
lol fuck no i threw it in the trash after ~40% of it or so ...
vibrant windowlicker
  07/15/20
I got like 120 pages in and then I was like "Why the fu...
Cobalt personal credit line
  07/15/20
yes. 30% of it is interesting, in a conventional way. the re...
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
Yes, it becomes a real page-turner around page 203. By page...
ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea
  07/15/20
cr
useless legend
  07/15/20
...
Nudist sneaky criminal
  07/15/20
Nope. Still sitting on the shelf and will probably never be ...
Racy Brilliant Business Firm Roommate
  07/15/20
Yes. It's my favorite novel and I don't just use that line t...
Nudist sneaky criminal
  07/15/20
okay dave
useless legend
  07/15/20
...
Racy Brilliant Business Firm Roommate
  07/15/20
Cr. It's 1100 pages long on large pages with small type and...
ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea
  07/15/20
the prose is godawful
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
Huge spritezero fan here. Big poaster. Full respect. You...
Nudist sneaky criminal
  07/15/20
disagree
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
what books do you like
laughsome fat ankles
  07/15/20
authors i like: pynchon, joyce, fitzgerald, flaubert
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
Nabokov? what do you like by Joyce?
laughsome fat ankles
  07/15/20
i dig nabakov. i like everything abt joyce. have not read fi...
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
nobody has ever read finnegan's wake
useless legend
  07/15/20
No apostrophe come on man
Greedy Whorehouse Associate
  07/15/20
Harold Bloom: Asked about novelist David Foster Wallace,...
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
ins't he famous for penning a screed about western canon or ...
Nudist sneaky criminal
  07/15/20
yeah
useless legend
  07/15/20
good man, but. Jewish. can't escape that
Nudist sneaky criminal
  07/15/20
fair
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
I'd agree that DFW's prose style works against him at least ...
Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit
  07/15/20
i agree--my copy of IJ has a few paragraphs and sentences m...
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
Lmao “But Stephen King is Cervantes compared with Dav...
Greedy Whorehouse Associate
  07/15/20
this critique seems pretty accurate: [T]he novel's Pynchones...
Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess
  07/15/20
It is the Great American Novel
vigorous house famous landscape painting
  07/15/20
I became extremely annoyed with it after about 50 pages and ...
carnelian irate really tough guy doctorate
  07/15/20
That's crazy. If you're not enjoying a book you should quit...
ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea
  07/15/20
Sometimes you gotta keep going though to make sure, e.g. Rab...
Greedy Whorehouse Associate
  07/15/20
I read it when I was unemployed, which helped a lot I think....
insane talking kitchen
  07/15/20
it's up there w moby dick for best written work by an americ...
lascivious unhinged coldplay fan
  07/16/20
I could never get through IJ. Really enjoyed Oblivion (in p...
infuriating up-to-no-good office mental disorder
  07/16/20


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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:46 PM
Author: useless legend

i did 400 pages

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614435)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:47 PM
Author: crusty bipolar address cuckoldry

I did 40

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614443)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:49 PM
Author: useless legend

nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614458)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:50 PM
Author: charismatic light idiot

Never tried.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614474)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:51 PM
Author: useless legend

poast moniker synergy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614481)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:53 PM
Author: odious judgmental piazza

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614492)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:54 PM
Author: useless legend

should i read the other 600 pages

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614495)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:58 PM
Author: odious judgmental piazza

eh... did you LIKE the first 400 pages? imo in some sense the rest is going to be 'kind of what you expect' in many ways, even though that sounds paradoxical for a novel that is very original, unusual and defies categorization like probably no book has since early Pynchon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614510)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:03 PM
Author: Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit

agree with this. if you don't want to put in that much time and you haven't read Oblivion, just read that instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614532)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:05 PM
Author: crusty bipolar address cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614545)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:34 PM
Author: useless legend

yeah i thought it was great but then i started reading another book or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614691)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:59 PM
Author: Appetizing dilemma mad cow disease

Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614516)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:00 PM
Author: Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614517)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:00 PM
Author: slap-happy school cafeteria

by the time i got it i didn't have a ton of time to devote to books, especially ones that long. so no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614523)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:05 PM
Author: aphrodisiac orange multi-billionaire

I did finish, after like a month and a half. I regret it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614544)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:44 PM
Author: Nudist sneaky criminal

faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614745)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:06 PM
Author: hilarious aromatic haunted graveyard

whok probably did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614553)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:36 PM
Author: obsidian center yarmulke

shit, pure shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614700)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible violent range

It is shocking how dated and frivolous that book seems now. We were so silly in the 90s. It was nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614705)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:41 PM
Author: obsidian center yarmulke

titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614726)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:41 PM
Author: laughsome fat ankles

That's always the vibe I got of this book

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614728)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:43 PM
Author: useless legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614741)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:49 PM
Author: ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea

You must not have understood it. It's more relevant than ever.

Just this year companies have started releasing software that makes your face look better on video chats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614774)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:51 PM
Author: useless legend

i wonder why he thought cartridges would be the next medium for storing entertainment bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614784)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:52 PM
Author: Nudist sneaky criminal

The specific technology (which feels dated as fuck) is much less relevant than the general feelings of dread and ennui that a world of meaningless striving evokes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614794)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:53 PM
Author: useless legend

yeah im not a fucking retard okay? i read 400 pages of infinite jest. i know things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614796)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:04 PM
Author: laughsome fat ankles

interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614875)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:51 PM
Author: Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit

agree and disagree. it did not predict today's social and political strife, but the concept of non-stop "entertainment" weaponized against us certainly resonates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614786)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:54 PM
Author: useless legend

i think the fixation on addiction and substance abuse is sort of prescient

lots of people living in despair with some dying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614801)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:55 PM
Author: Nudist sneaky criminal

some would even consider xo the Ultimate Entertainment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614805)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:55 PM
Author: useless legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614809)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:57 PM
Author: Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit

some?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614824)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:38 PM
Author: ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615643)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:59 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614840)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:37 PM
Author: vibrant windowlicker

lol fuck no i threw it in the trash after ~40% of it or so

swordmo keeps telling me its a work of art but what does he know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614706)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:37 PM
Author: Cobalt personal credit line

I got like 120 pages in and then I was like "Why the fuck am i reading this?" and then stopped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614707)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:37 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess

yes. 30% of it is interesting, in a conventional way. the rest is garbage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614710)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:39 PM
Author: ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea

Yes, it becomes a real page-turner around page 203. By page 400 you kind of understand what's going on.

I mean that sincerely. I have really strong visual memories from that book. It's really really good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614719)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:40 PM
Author: useless legend

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614724)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:44 PM
Author: Nudist sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614753)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:45 PM
Author: Racy Brilliant Business Firm Roommate

Nope. Still sitting on the shelf and will probably never be read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614756)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:47 PM
Author: Nudist sneaky criminal

Yes. It's my favorite novel and I don't just use that line to get laid (but it has worked)

DFW has a rare command over the written word, and it's a joy to experience. It's a book that makes you FEEL and THINK but lets you decide how much energy you'll put into these charges. And the reward is great, if the effort is there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614761)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:47 PM
Author: useless legend

okay dave

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614765)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:48 PM
Author: Racy Brilliant Business Firm Roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614769)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:48 PM
Author: ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea

Cr. It's 1100 pages long on large pages with small type and every sentence is perfectly crafted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614772)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:50 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess

the prose is godawful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614776)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:51 PM
Author: Nudist sneaky criminal

Huge spritezero fan here. Big poaster. Full respect.

You're wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614785)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:53 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess

disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614795)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:03 PM
Author: laughsome fat ankles

what books do you like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614871)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:07 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess

authors i like: pynchon, joyce, fitzgerald, flaubert

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614898)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:08 PM
Author: laughsome fat ankles

Nabokov?

what do you like by Joyce?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614906)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:10 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess

i dig nabakov. i like everything abt joyce. have not read finnegan's wake tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614916)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:30 PM
Author: useless legend

nobody has ever read finnegan's wake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615029)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:46 PM
Author: Greedy Whorehouse Associate

No apostrophe come on man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615657)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:56 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess

Harold Bloom:

Asked about novelist David Foster Wallace, who took his own life in 2008, but who has a new book out, “The Pale King: An Unfinished Novel,” put together from manuscript chapters and files found in his computer, Bloom says, “You know, I don’t want to be offensive. But ‘Infinite Jest’ [regarded by many as Wallace’s masterpiece] is just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. He can’t think, he can’t write. There’s no discernible talent.”

It’s all a clear indication, Bloom notes, of the decline of literary standards. He was upset in 2003 when the National Book Award gave a special award to Stephen King. “But Stephen King is Cervantes compared with David Foster Wallace. We have no standards left. [Wallace] seems to have been a very sincere and troubled person, but that doesn’t mean I have to endure reading him. I even resented the use of the term from Shakespeare, when Hamlet calls the king’s jester Yorick, ‘a fellow of infinite jest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614814)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:57 PM
Author: Nudist sneaky criminal

ins't he famous for penning a screed about western canon or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614829)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:59 PM
Author: useless legend

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614848)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:00 PM
Author: Nudist sneaky criminal

good man, but. Jewish. can't escape that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614854)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:03 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess

fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614870)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:59 PM
Author: Disgusting cracking blood rage hissy fit

I'd agree that DFW's prose style works against him at least as often as it works for him. I think he had solid ideas and insight though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614841)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:02 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess

i agree--my copy of IJ has a few paragraphs and sentences marked up. but IJ didn't have a big, unifying idea interesting enuff to carry a book of that size. dfw's shorter, nonfiction stuff is pretty good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614866)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:47 PM
Author: Greedy Whorehouse Associate

Lmao

“But Stephen King is Cervantes compared with David Foster Wallace."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615661)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:58 PM
Author: Tripping at-the-ready sound barrier jewess

this critique seems pretty accurate: [T]he novel's Pynchonesque elements...feel rather willed and secondhand. They are impressive in the manner of a precocious child's performance at a dinner party, and, in the same way, ultimately irritating: they seem motivated, mostly, by a desire to show off."

dfw was a gen-x/poor man's pynchon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614834)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:58 PM
Author: vigorous house famous landscape painting

It is the Great American Novel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614836)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:13 PM
Author: carnelian irate really tough guy doctorate

I became extremely annoyed with it after about 50 pages and decided to cut my losses. This may be the only book I started and never finished. Just found it exhausting to read and not enjoyable at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614932)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:40 PM
Author: ocher slimy step-uncle's house marketing idea

That's crazy. If you're not enjoying a book you should quit reading it and start another one. You'll never run out of good books and you might be wasting time on bad ones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615648)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:49 PM
Author: Greedy Whorehouse Associate

Sometimes you gotta keep going though to make sure, e.g. Rabbit tetralogy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615664)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:47 PM
Author: insane talking kitchen

I read it when I was unemployed, which helped a lot I think. It's so much to absorb, and it really comes together at the end in a more rewarding way if you don't read it over, say, 3 months. The good passages in IJ are as good as anything I've ever read, like the suicide attempt, or the eschaton game, or the Mt. Dilaudid part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615659)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:15 AM
Author: lascivious unhinged coldplay fan

it's up there w moby dick for best written work by an america. I have read it twice. the chapter on eschatology is the best thing anyone has ever written

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Date: July 16th, 2020 11:11 AM
Author: infuriating up-to-no-good office mental disorder

I could never get through IJ. Really enjoyed Oblivion (in particular commentary on GC, eg a food company naming an indulgent candy bar "Felony!" to commoditize transgression in a profitable way). And the NYT sports "Federer as religious experience" is great. Collected essays on descriptivism vs prescriptivism, consider the lobster, etc were all interesting. But he's a little self indulgent for 1100 pages? I'm sure there are passages I would enjoy.

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