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anyone here ever finish infinite jest
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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:46 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon i did 400 pages (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614435) |
Date: July 15th, 2020 7:47 PM Author: khaki laughsome national security agency I did 40 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614443) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:49 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon nice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614458) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:50 PM Author: excitant legal warrant liquid oxygen Never tried. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614474) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:51 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon poast moniker synergy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614481) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:53 PM Author: Fuchsia Halford yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614492) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:54 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon should i read the other 600 pages (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614495) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:58 PM Author: Fuchsia Halford eh... did you LIKE the first 400 pages? imo in some sense the rest is going to be 'kind of what you expect' in many ways, even though that sounds paradoxical for a novel that is very original, unusual and defies categorization like probably no book has since early Pynchon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614510) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:03 PM Author: Smoky Effete Laser Beams agree with this. if you don't want to put in that much time and you haven't read Oblivion, just read that instead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614532) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:05 PM Author: khaki laughsome national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614545) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:34 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon yeah i thought it was great but then i started reading another book or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614691) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 7:59 PM Author: adventurous pozpig Yeah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614516) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:00 PM Author: Smoky Effete Laser Beams yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614517) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:00 PM Author: Misanthropic crimson shrine by the time i got it i didn't have a ton of time to devote to books, especially ones that long. so no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614523) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:05 PM Author: Bateful Tripping Idiot I did finish, after like a month and a half. I regret it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614544) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:44 PM Author: exciting transparent church faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614745) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:06 PM Author: olive hospital whok probably did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614553) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:36 PM Author: light exhilarant cuck shit, pure shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614700) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:37 PM Author: Floppy cocky kitchen It is shocking how dated and frivolous that book seems now. We were so silly in the 90s. It was nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614705) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:41 PM Author: light exhilarant cuck titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614726) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:41 PM Author: Swashbuckling crackhouse toaster That's always the vibe I got of this book (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614728) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:43 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614741) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:49 PM Author: Bistre public bath You must not have understood it. It's more relevant than ever.
Just this year companies have started releasing software that makes your face look better on video chats. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:51 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon i wonder why he thought cartridges would be the next medium for storing entertainment bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614784) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:52 PM Author: exciting transparent church The specific technology (which feels dated as fuck) is much less relevant than the general feelings of dread and ennui that a world of meaningless striving evokes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614794) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:53 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon yeah im not a fucking retard okay? i read 400 pages of infinite jest. i know things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614796) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:04 PM Author: Swashbuckling crackhouse toaster interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614875) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:51 PM Author: Smoky Effete Laser Beams agree and disagree. it did not predict today's social and political strife, but the concept of non-stop "entertainment" weaponized against us certainly resonates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614786) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:54 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon i think the fixation on addiction and substance abuse is sort of prescient
lots of people living in despair with some dying |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:55 PM Author: exciting transparent church some would even consider xo the Ultimate Entertainment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614805) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:55 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614809) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:57 PM Author: Smoky Effete Laser Beams some? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614824) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:38 PM Author: Bistre public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615643) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:59 PM Author: out-of-control heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614840) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:37 PM Author: Opaque Alpha Faggot Firefighter lol fuck no i threw it in the trash after ~40% of it or so
swordmo keeps telling me its a work of art but what does he know |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:37 PM Author: lascivious gas station knife I got like 120 pages in and then I was like "Why the fuck am i reading this?" and then stopped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614707) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:37 PM Author: out-of-control heaven yes. 30% of it is interesting, in a conventional way. the rest is garbage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614710) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:39 PM Author: Bistre public bath Yes, it becomes a real page-turner around page 203. By page 400 you kind of understand what's going on.
I mean that sincerely. I have really strong visual memories from that book. It's really really good. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:40 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614724) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:44 PM Author: exciting transparent church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614753) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:45 PM Author: passionate rusted set Nope. Still sitting on the shelf and will probably never be read (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614756) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:47 PM Author: exciting transparent church Yes. It's my favorite novel and I don't just use that line to get laid (but it has worked)
DFW has a rare command over the written word, and it's a joy to experience. It's a book that makes you FEEL and THINK but lets you decide how much energy you'll put into these charges. And the reward is great, if the effort is there. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:47 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon okay dave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614765) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:48 PM Author: passionate rusted set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614769) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:48 PM Author: Bistre public bath Cr. It's 1100 pages long on large pages with small type and every sentence is perfectly crafted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614772) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:50 PM Author: out-of-control heaven the prose is godawful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614776) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:51 PM Author: exciting transparent church Huge spritezero fan here. Big poaster. Full respect.
You're wrong. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:53 PM Author: out-of-control heaven disagree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614795) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:03 PM Author: Swashbuckling crackhouse toaster what books do you like (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614871) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:07 PM Author: out-of-control heaven authors i like: pynchon, joyce, fitzgerald, flaubert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614898) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:08 PM Author: Swashbuckling crackhouse toaster Nabokov?
what do you like by Joyce? |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:10 PM Author: out-of-control heaven i dig nabakov. i like everything abt joyce. have not read finnegan's wake tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614916) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:30 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon nobody has ever read finnegan's wake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615029) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:46 PM Author: Mind-boggling Slippery Den No apostrophe come on man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615657) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:56 PM Author: out-of-control heaven Harold Bloom:
Asked about novelist David Foster Wallace, who took his own life in 2008, but who has a new book out, “The Pale King: An Unfinished Novel,” put together from manuscript chapters and files found in his computer, Bloom says, “You know, I don’t want to be offensive. But ‘Infinite Jest’ [regarded by many as Wallace’s masterpiece] is just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. He can’t think, he can’t write. There’s no discernible talent.”
It’s all a clear indication, Bloom notes, of the decline of literary standards. He was upset in 2003 when the National Book Award gave a special award to Stephen King. “But Stephen King is Cervantes compared with David Foster Wallace. We have no standards left. [Wallace] seems to have been a very sincere and troubled person, but that doesn’t mean I have to endure reading him. I even resented the use of the term from Shakespeare, when Hamlet calls the king’s jester Yorick, ‘a fellow of infinite jest. |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:57 PM Author: exciting transparent church ins't he famous for penning a screed about western canon or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614829) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:59 PM Author: Heady philosopher-king dragon yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614848) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:00 PM Author: exciting transparent church good man, but. Jewish. can't escape that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614854) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:03 PM Author: out-of-control heaven fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614870) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:59 PM Author: Smoky Effete Laser Beams I'd agree that DFW's prose style works against him at least as often as it works for him. I think he had solid ideas and insight though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614841) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:02 PM Author: out-of-control heaven i agree--my copy of IJ has a few paragraphs and sentences marked up. but IJ didn't have a big, unifying idea interesting enuff to carry a book of that size. dfw's shorter, nonfiction stuff is pretty good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614866) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:47 PM Author: Mind-boggling Slippery Den Lmao “But Stephen King is Cervantes compared with David Foster Wallace." |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:58 PM Author: out-of-control heaven this critique seems pretty accurate: [T]he novel's Pynchonesque elements...feel rather willed and secondhand. They are impressive in the manner of a precocious child's performance at a dinner party, and, in the same way, ultimately irritating: they seem motivated, mostly, by a desire to show off."
dfw was a gen-x/poor man's pynchon |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 8:58 PM Author: Galvanic point It is the Great American Novel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614836) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 9:13 PM Author: Flatulent 180 Corner I became extremely annoyed with it after about 50 pages and decided to cut my losses. This may be the only book I started and never finished. Just found it exhausting to read and not enjoyable at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40614932) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:40 PM Author: Bistre public bath That's crazy. If you're not enjoying a book you should quit reading it and start another one. You'll never run out of good books and you might be wasting time on bad ones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615648) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:49 PM Author: Mind-boggling Slippery Den Sometimes you gotta keep going though to make sure, e.g. Rabbit tetralogy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615664) |
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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:47 PM Author: big-titted main people new version I read it when I was unemployed, which helped a lot I think. It's so much to absorb, and it really comes together at the end in a more rewarding way if you don't read it over, say, 3 months. The good passages in IJ are as good as anything I've ever read, like the suicide attempt, or the eschaton game, or the Mt. Dilaudid part. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40615659) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:15 AM Author: Coral feces puppy it's up there w moby dick for best written work by an america. I have read it twice. the chapter on eschatology is the best thing anyone has ever written (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40616595) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 11:11 AM Author: unhinged gunner deer antler I could never get through IJ. Really enjoyed Oblivion (in particular commentary on GC, eg a food company naming an indulgent candy bar "Felony!" to commoditize transgression in a profitable way). And the NYT sports "Federer as religious experience" is great. Collected essays on descriptivism vs prescriptivism, consider the lobster, etc were all interesting. But he's a little self indulgent for 1100 pages? I'm sure there are passages I would enjoy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585875&forum_id=2#40617178) |