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MINUS FUCKING EIGHT on a paper: advice?
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:24 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold I'm going to Berlin in the fall and decided to take a German class over the summer. The grading system is out of 300, scaled as follows:
250-300: A 220-249: B 170-219: C sub-170: F (they don't give D's at my school)
The grade is computed from the following:
Homework (25) Midterm Quiz (75) Final exam (100) Paper (100)
I aced the homework, got a 58 on the quiz and a 91 on the test. This means that I had a 174 going into the paper, enough for a C. Since I was stupid and took the class pass/fail (I didn't realize how easy summer classes were at my school) I technically had no incentive to write the paper.
The professor is a fucking dickwad and absolutely anal about grammatical gender. He took off NINE fucking points per gender error, even on his tests which were too long and poorly written for it to even be expected that we'd get genders right. I only needed a C in this class, and so just to spite him, I made 12 errors on the final paper because he couldn't do anything about it! 174 + 0 = 174 which would still give me a C, which would be reported as a P. Or so I thought...
My paper, which was ten pages long and beautiful aside from the intentional errors, came back over the weekend with a -8 on it. I'm not kidding: a MINUS FUCKING EIGHT. That brings me to a 166, which is failing. I would have passed the class by not writing the paper at all and taking a zero!
And yes, I emailed this cocksucker and asked if he was going to fail me, and he said yes. I will now have a fucking F on my transcript for a 101-level language class taken IN THE SUMMER. Worse yet, I'm afraid the Berlin program will retroactively un-accept me.
Do you guys have any advice? Think I can sue this professor? |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:30 AM Author: fragrant hyperactive fat ankles If you'd worked as hard on your imaginary paper as you did on this flame, you would have passed your imaginary pass/fail class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198600) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:32 AM Author: Blue garrison volcanic crater I don't think it's flame. Negative scores causing controversy is, at least, not without precedent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198626) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:31 AM Author: Blue garrison volcanic crater My father knows a tenured prof (at a TTT) who was fired for giving a negative score on a final exam. The student was supposedly a cocky prick who had passed without the final, showed up and wrote his name on the bluebook and left (to avoid getting an incomplete). So he gave the kid a negative score and flunked him anyway. Summer after, kid's family sued the school, lost the lawsuit but managed to get him fired. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198612) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:41 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Fucker deserved it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198712) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:48 AM Author: light multi-colored piazza TITCR
That Prof. should burn in hell. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:51 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold The fact that they're in their 50s and have to fucking grade exams is more than enough for most profs... but not this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198802) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:10 AM Author: Shimmering factory reset button nursing home It's not a difficult job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198983) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:04 AM Author: Shimmering factory reset button nursing home Did the family claim a tort was violated? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198930) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:30 PM Author: charismatic station correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't torts committed rather than violated? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6202089) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:32 PM Author: Motley tattoo hell LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6202107) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 6:33 PM Author: domesticated insane stead torts are neither committed nor violated. they are feased. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6204994) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:32 AM Author: sexy box office for your sake i hope this is flame. doesnt seem like it is though so i extend my condolences to you. please do remember to still post from your job at best buy's "geek squad."
only recourse you might have would be to speak to a dean or something. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:43 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Do Deans meet with students in the summer?
I'm discussing the matter with the head of the German department at 9:30 am. I have never met this man in my life, but he looks ominous in pictures. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:46 AM Author: sexy box office if the german dept guy cant help, go to a dean/advisor/whatever. pursue every avenue you can.
it just seems ludicrous to me that you can get NEGATIVE points for HANDING in an assignment. and, from what you say, you didnt just hand in some slapdash piece of junk with your name on it written in feces; you actually turned in a suitable work. taking a submitted work and using it as grounds to give you NEGATIVE points seems completely foolish. by that reasoning, you could have turned in a paper with just your name on it -- with no mistakes, there would be no 'negative' points, just a big fat, pass-worthy 0.
strange. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:48 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Professors can technically give Incompletes in cases like that, instead of 0s. He probably would've given me an I if I had turned in no work, just to make his unimportant summer class encroach further upon my life. This is what profs do when they want to feel big. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198776) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:00 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace It sounds like you're the one who wanted to "feel big."
Turning in intentionally shitty work to spite your professor is immature and childish, not to mention retarded. If you really wanted to feel superior to him, you should have aced the paper, forcing him to give you an A. If what you say is true, this would have actually taken less effort than what you did.
You were absolutely PWNED by this professor - he got you to do more work than you would have otherwise, and he still failed your ass. You deserve what you get. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:03 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state I like this post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198911) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:09 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold "If you really wanted to feel superior to him, you should have aced the paper, forcing him to give you an A."
A perfect paper would've brought me to 274, which probably wouldn't have been the high score in the class.
"You were absolutely PWNED by this professor - he got you to do more work than you would have otherwise, and he still failed your ass. You deserve what you get."
STFU, Pensive. Your flame is tiresome, and no one agree with you except for your 38 other monikers. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:19 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace What does having the highest score in the class have to do with anything?
"STFU, Pensive. Your flame is tiresome, and no one agree with you except for your 38 other monikers."
Ummm... no. A number of people in this thread (myself included) agree with him, and I'm sure many others who haven't posted do too.
Also, it is humorous that you think I am pensive. While most people here seem to have a pathological hatred of him, I am not one of them. I think he is actually intelligent and informed. If this opinion is easier for you to digest by dismissing it as Walker-Thomas = pensive, feel free.
And btw, who the fuck are you (besides some whiny kid who ill-advisedly threw away a passing grade in summer school)? Are you new here? If you read some of my other posts, you will see that I am clearly not pensive. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:22 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state I think his point on the highest score is that he wouldn't really "make a point" to the professor by taking a low A, because he'd be under the radar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199093) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:25 AM Author: Cowardly 180 church STFU pensive. you aren't fooling anyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199111) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:28 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace Apparently, I am fooling many people.
Does pensive go to NYU? |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:34 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state I may take some courses there if I decide to stay in NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199186) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:37 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace Shit. You're not helping things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199202) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:06 PM Author: dark corn cake sneaky criminal Subject: If this guy is Pensive . . . then, just as a blind squirrel sometimes finds an acorn, he is right. Just this once.
F, loser! |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:07 AM Author: Shimmering factory reset button nursing home Some profs fail the students rather than give an I. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198953) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:32 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Fine, but I fucking passed even before the paper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199164) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:34 AM Author: Appetizing bbw flame or real, either way, youre an idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198640) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:41 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold No. I earned a C. I only wrote the fucking paper to spite him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198705) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:34 AM Author: vigorous set mexican Get your genders right, bitch. DERDIEDASPWN3D! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198648) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 12:46 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold I knew them. I just inverted the der/die to spite him. (Das I left unchanged.) The errors were all in the last paragraph, because I wanted the bastard to know that it wasn't sloppiness on my part, and that I knew my genders.
I think I am a fucking star to stand up to a professor like that, and I only hope the department chair will see that. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:04 AM Author: balding boyish native jap inverting der/die is such a badass way to get revenge. and then HE turned the tables on YOU by exploiting the existence of the set of integers less than zero.
diablolical cold-hearted shit. it's like you fuckers are in Oldboy or some shit. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:06 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state Subject: Old Boy Don't give him any ideas. The last thing we need is to read about some sick fuck who pulls out 8 of his professor's teeth, one for each negative point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198948) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:08 AM Author: balding boyish native jap um that would be awesome. ty for the detail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198967) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 11:35 AM Author: tantric cuck this is the funniest post on the thread. 180, man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6201107) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:18 AM Author: Opaque Pervert Headpube Subject: Kill self ... or you can just suck his cock. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199065) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 5:18 AM Author: At-the-ready Regret Quadroon # 1 Reason why this is a flame:
I'm sorry, but if you were not good enough at German to be in the A range of the class heading into the paper, I really doubt that there is anyway you could write a "perfect" paper for 10 pages. I've studied 3 languages to intermediate levels and never heard of such a requirement; its impossible to write anything beautiful (or even just interesting) for that long at that level without getting into a whole lot of vocab and grammar that you don't really know. Come on, this is a 101 level course, anyone at that level in a language is going to completely suck. A professor who really wanted to spite you could have torn your paper up for more than a few deliberate errors.
Plus, the whole academic honesty thing you mention later on is nonsense. There is no reason in the world the school would say you couldn't talk to other students about this situation. More creative than most flames, though, I guess. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:05 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold I spent four years in Germany growing up, so the language came back pretty quickly. (I only lost points in class on stupid things like genders.)
I didn't mean that I wrote fluent German, but . I called it "perfect" because there were no other marks than the gender corrections in the last paragraph. It would've been a 100 paper if not for those. That's what I mean by "perfect"; I don't mean fluent prose that a native speaker would find brilliant and senpivian.
Also, 174/200 (what I had before the paper) was A range since 250 out of the final 300 was an A. His exams and grading are notoriously difficult and 80% is considered a good score. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 6:27 PM Author: beady-eyed theater knife Reason #2: His score was 174. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6204949) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 12:46 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold You don't think I can pull 87% in a German class? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215788) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:59 PM Author: cerebral stage personal credit line email the dean (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203015) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 5:01 PM Author: sepia pisswyrm I doubt they'll unaccept you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6204269) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 6:33 PM Author: Trip Ruby Shrine Jewess No conceivable lawsuit. As profs have absolute discretion in how they grade, a negative score is not unacceptable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6204991) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 12:52 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold If I get pulled from the Berlin program after having paid for plane tickets, I think I have the case for a lawsuit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215820) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 9:48 AM Author: Trip Ruby Shrine Jewess No, you wouldn't. The fact that something bad happens doesn't create a lawsuit. The professor didn't do anything wrong. If there are consequences they are yours alone to bear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6216972) |
Date: July 13th, 2006 1:02 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state Negative scores are not unprecedented nor controversial; in fact, they're often a matter of policy for cheating: automatic F, which usually entails a negative score. No one would get fired for giving a student an F for cheating, even if he numerically passed.
"Zero" is just an arbitrary point on the grade continuum; how one truly wishes to represent not doing any work is a matter of opinion, and moreover bad work (in the real world) is often less than none at all. Your prof spent time reading your paper, only to come upon a "fuck you" at the end of it. You deserved that -8. Enjoy failure, prick. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 11:37 AM Author: tantric cuck the op in this thread was one of your better efforts (although evan's post pointing out its lamer qualities was even better). at least your alternate moniker didn't obliquely slam harvard or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6201122) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:03 AM Author: Shimmering factory reset button nursing home What type of school is this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198908) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:10 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Large overrated T25. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6198986) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:40 AM Author: Shimmering factory reset button nursing home Notre Dame? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199224) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:13 AM Author: Black sandwich This reminds me of last night, when I had hate-sex with my boyfriend. He seemed to have thought it was the best sex ever and wanted me to rate his performance on a 0-10 scale. (What the fuck? Could anything be more pathetic?) So I said, "I give it a 3, but minus 5 for your flabby gut, so it comes up negative. You gotta work out." Then I poked him in his jiggly, jiggly flab-gut and turned away from him to sleep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199017) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:14 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state You are a horrible and disgusting person. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199027) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:27 AM Author: Lascivious chartreuse school cafeteria preventive strike damn. This retort from pensive means unique is just another pensive moniker. This one had potential, too, as I got a kick out of this post. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:31 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state Dude... I can take a lot of abuse, but don't compare me to that disgusting, evil whore. Also, if she's schtick, well... I could do much better than this amateur; you were around during the days of Media Kid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199155) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:34 AM Author: Lascivious chartreuse school cafeteria preventive strike haha. The problem with this reply, genuine or not, is that it is the exact reply you'd give, genuine or not. Didn't Media Kid go to NYU like walker thomas? |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:36 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state A -> B, B do not entail A.
Media Kid never said where he went to school, but hinted at HYP and got into H as a legacy despite, as you recall, taking his SATs drunk and putting up a 1320. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 11:46 AM Author: tantric cuck the most entertaining part of media kid was how obvious you were. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6201197) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:17 AM Author: vigorous set mexican He still fucked you, so it looks like you came out the loser in this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199054) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:24 AM Author: Black sandwich He has no one else.
I pick my boyfriends way below my league because I like tearing them to shreds while fucking hot guys behind their backs. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:43 AM Author: Painfully Honest Alcoholic Fanboi House You're an ugly bitch just admit it. lesson 1 of xoxohth.com:
There may be attractive guys on the site but the girls are TTT beyond belief. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:46 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state This is almost certainly true of her. My guess is that unique is skinny and blonde and therefore feels entitled to be considered attractive, but that she has a busted face. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199263) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:47 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace This is incredibly true. This bitch posts about fucking some flabby fat dude and then qualifies it by saying she dates ugly losers on purpose.
I bet she is absolutely hideous, and most likely in the 180-230 lb. range. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:46 AM Author: comical dun jew Right, fugly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199258) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:17 AM Author: confused flatulent pit sex offender Messed up on purpose to spite the prof? You deserve this. DON'T SHIT WHERE YOU EAT. Some people in your class probably earned a C only through genuine effort.
You'll get the P one way or another, but you deserve the hassle you're being put through now. He's returning the obvious disrespect you showed him.
Nice flame. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:21 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state I don't think he'll get the P. At most schools, profs can't be forced to change grades. I bet the F will be taken off his transcript though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199088) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:24 AM Author: Black sandwich I'll get him an A for a reasonable price... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199109) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 5:49 AM Author: Shimmering factory reset button nursing home If he doesn't get a P or F but still receives credit for the course, what other grade could he get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6200257) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:22 AM Author: Startled jet area Speaking as someone who teaches classes, I can say that this behavior is unbecoming of a professor, and this cocksucker needs to get PWN3D like the fucking bitch he is.
Call up EVERY academic dean or administrator. Speak calmly yet firmly. Inform them that you will sue the motherfuck out of the prof and the school. This is horseshit. The assignment is worth a set amount of points, and there is no such thing as a negative score.
This is such horseshit. I hope this is flame because it pisses me off. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:23 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state "The assignment is worth a set amount of points, and there is no such thing as a negative score."
I've heard of negative scores and auto-fails for plagiarism. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:26 AM Author: Startled jet area Any school that comes with negative scores needs to be burned to the fucking ground. I would never do this to one of my students. If another prof did this at my school, I would write a strong letter to the academic dean requesting that 1.) the prof be punished and 2.) the academic code be rewritten to strictly forbid negative scores.
Auto-fails for plagiarism is a given. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:28 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state Call it what you want, but an auto-fail (for any reason) given to a numerically passing student *is* a negative score. So if you are categorically against negative scores, you can't support auto-fails for plagiarism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199137) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:31 AM Author: Startled jet area I'm not following you. A negative score is saying that something is worth, say, 100 points, but then taking more than 100 points off of the total points used to calculate the final grade. Taking 108 pts off for a 100 pt assignment is negative grading, and is bullshit.
An automatic faulure of a class due to lifting another person's work is valid because they cannot be trusted. They have violated the honor code, and any class for which they have submitted plagiarized work is soiled beyond recovery.
These are two entirely different matters. The latter is punishment for not meeting higher ethical standards. The former is punishment by selectively tilting the scale in order to fuck a student over.
If it's 100 pts, the most you can take off is 100 pts. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:42 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state If he'd plagiarized the paper, it wouldn't invalidate the exam, which was taken under controlled conditions. So it wouldn't make sense to take points off his exams because he plagiarized a paper, unless there was evidence that he also cheated on his exams. However, he'd still deserve a failing grade for doing it; we're in agreement on this issue. Adhering to strict numerical policy, the only way he could give the OP an F for plagiarism would be to give him a negative score. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199240) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:35 AM Author: Cowardly 180 church Are you an idiot? Plagiarism is cheating. It's like paying for your degree. When someone who is caught buying a grade gets failed, is that somehow akin to giving them a negative score? What kind of retarded logic is that?
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:38 AM Author: Startled jet area Pensive is a moron. But we already knew that. Although this post is rather idiotic, even for old Mike. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199210) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:39 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state Say, for example, there's a class with five equally weighted papers, and graded on a 90/80/70 scale. I get 100s on the first four papers. Then I have enough for a minimal B before even writing the fifth paper. If I plagiarized the fifth paper, I'd fail the course (and rightly so). Since 299 is the maximum failing grade, that's equivalent to a score of -101. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199213) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:49 AM Author: comical dun jew I wouldn't say that's a negative score. It's more like a binary prereq for passing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199273) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:52 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state Well, I'd say that it's a multiplier: zero.
It's completely reasonable to fail someone for plagiarism, but by extension it's also reasonable to fail someone for INTENTIONALLY tempting the prof. KFan's argument that he already passed and therefore deserves the P would imply that he should also have been given the P if he had plagiarized the paper. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:54 AM Author: Cowardly 180 church now you have been reduced to equating what the OP did to plagiarism. weak. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199303) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:57 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state If the errors were all made in the last paragraph, then this was clearly intentional.
It was a "fuck you" to the professor. Is it, in ethical terms, "as bad" as plagiarizing? Probably not. However, school is (among other things) evaluation/preparation for academia, and snubbing a powerful prof just as ruinous for one's career as plagiarism. Really, a negative score is appropriate. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:59 AM Author: Cowardly 180 church now you're just being silly. admit it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199319) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:05 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state No, I'm not.
Do you seriously think that if you, obviously by intent, sabotaged an assignment in a work environment, you'd receive the same treatment as one who merely declined it, or haplessly bungled it? No; in the former case, you'd be fired without a doubt, whereas in the latter you might get another chance.
He's learning a hard lesson about the way the world works and, yes, that sort of behavior is as damaging in academia as plagiarism. (Both are fatal, usually.) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:11 AM Author: Painfully Honest Alcoholic Fanboi House Hard part is proving he sabotaged it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199396) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 4:45 AM Author: massive den sound barrier "but by extension it's also reasonable to fail someone for INTENTIONALLY tempting the prof."
why? i see nothing justifying your "extension" by analogy. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:59 PM Author: Silver School this is my criticism as well.
also, the fact that there exists a negative score which would have the same effect as an auto-fail does not mean the auto-fail is a negative score. the means can be different even if the end is the same. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:49 AM Author: Cowardly 180 church Yes, I got that part of your thinking. You are looking at it backwards, though. A negative score implies taking away points for an assignment beyond what that assignment is worth towards the final grade. But when you fail someone for a violation of some sort, it's not like it even matters at this point how the score is computed. The fail simply acts as a signal in this case, instead of being the outcome of some computation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199276) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:32 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace What if he had turned in a paper that simply said:
"Fuck you. I have no respect for you or this university. Give me a zero on this paper and I will still pass your pathetic class. I hope your mother, wife, and daughter get raped and killed."
Should he still just get a zero and a pass? |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:35 AM Author: Startled jet area If this happened to me, I would award a zero for the paper, and the kid would still pass the class if he had earned it.
I would, of course, pass the note along to the dean, because it displays conduct unbecoming of a good student, and is offensive.
But it's no reason to take away a grade that the student rightfully earned. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:42 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace I don't see what your problem is with failing this kid. Shouldn't professors have some discretion in their grading. I don't like the idea of negative grading, but I think it is perfectly within a professor's right to do it. Now, there might be a notice problem here - i.e., if the professor said at the beginning of the course that those were the point intervals for various grades and that all assignments would be graded from 0-100. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199238) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:44 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state Right. I think the prof should have addressed this negative score possibility in his syllabus, and he may have. I don't think the OP is giving us the whole story.
Nine points per gender error is a bit asinine. 1 or 2 might make more sense; it's not like not knowing the genders makes it impossible to communicate in the language. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:50 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace But OP says he knew about the 9 points per error and included 12 errors for this express purpose. That he didn't know a negative score was possible is tough shit, IMO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199282) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:55 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state He should have made more errors, aiming for some higher (lower?) tier of failure, like a G or something.
At Carleton, in the '70s, it was possible to have a negative GPA. It was a 3-point scale with no Ds and two levels of failing. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 4:01 PM Author: Silver School that carleton's scale for GPAs included a symbol that is also used to signify negative numbers is irrelevant; the phenomenon we are discussing is performing so poorly on an assignment that the numerical grade is worse than the one you would have received by not handing in the assignment at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203717) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 4:29 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Pensive is just an idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203999) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:37 AM Author: Lascivious chartreuse school cafeteria preventive strike That's a -4. So yes, he'd still pass. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:45 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state -9; he'd probably not know the German word for "fuck" and flub it, earning a nine-point deduction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199255) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:25 AM Author: Startled jet area And he should get the fucking pass. Before this negative score bullshit, he had earned the pass, so he should get it. Motherfuck this professor. Scream your fucking head off. Tell the dean and the prof that you are going to personally tell every student that this prof pulls this kind of shit. Write an op-ed in the student newspaper. Write an op-ed for the local newspaper. They will publish it. Call this cocksucker out for being the disgrace that he is. Call him a psychotic posing as an academic. Question his mental stability. Try to provoke him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199110) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:41 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state Would you come out to support this guy if he did? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199229) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:52 AM Author: comical dun jew Now you're getting too extreme. Your advice is terrible, especially about the lawsuits, etc. The best way to get things done is to first try to pleasant route, currying good feelings with everyone involved. It's when this fails that you pull out other means, and even this should be done sparingly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199292) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:58 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state The chair is going to laugh in his face, and he's not going to win his lawsuit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199314) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:01 AM Author: comical dun jew Yep. A lawsuit isn't going to make anyone friendly. The first instinct of a department that's sued will be to circle the wagons around the professor, as it's the school that's legally liable, not the professor only. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199344) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:02 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state Also, a lawsuit ruins his chances at any sort of academic career, even in an unrelated subject; it'll shoot out his recommendations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199355) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:58 AM Author: comical dun jew You made HUGE, HUGE fuck up. The professor recognized the slap to his face, and he hit back by failing your ass. It's not like you didn't know about the -9 per gender error penalty, so he may convincingly argue that he was just applying a rule that everyone knew in advance. A fatal way to damage his attempt to fail you would be to dredge up a test of someone in your class who has gotten lenient treatment on the gender error penalty (e.g. someone with a 0 who otherwise should have gotten a negative score). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199317) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:10 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold "A fatal way to damage his attempt to fail you would be to dredge up a test of someone in your class who has gotten lenient treatment on the gender error penalty (e.g. someone with a 0 who otherwise should have gotten a negative score)."
That's a great idea. Unfortunately, I've been "advised" by the professor and department chair that any discussion of this with other students would have me sent to Academic Honesty. This is clearly utter bullshit, but I have no way to fight it right now. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:14 AM Author: comical dun jew You're either flaming terribly or those folks are fucked up beyond belief. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199405) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:14 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace What school is this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199406) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:17 AM Author: Painfully Honest Alcoholic Fanboi House list your school and send me a check for 1000 + any legal fees I might take on and i'll have this worked out in three weeks guaranteed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199415) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:12 AM Author: odious buff boiling water karate Arguing for a zero. You wouldn't think it would be that hard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199400) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:24 AM Author: Gaped charcoal patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199436) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:36 AM Author: Motley tattoo hell i'm sorry but i have NO pity for you. you disrespected the teacher, and he taught your faggot ass a lesson. let this be a lesson to the rest of you. i remember a time when children obeyed their teachers and students respected their professors. you might feel angry right now, but you deserved it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6199492) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 4:42 AM Author: massive den sound barrier a -8 score doesn't even make sense. not turning in an assignment (0) is less an accomplishment than turning something in and failing.
there's no coherent justification for a negative score. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 5:46 AM Author: irradiated cocky hall electric furnace Man, you're quick. You have cut right to the heart of the issue we have been discussing for the last few hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6200255) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 11:49 AM Author: hairless crusty faggotry goyim since there is to much shit to read through, i may be reposting, but check the student handbook. there may be a grade range explained and they may have ranges, and if 0 is the bottom, you can not get -8 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6201234) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 1:09 PM Author: Startled jet area This thread still fucking pisses me off.
As far as not being able to discuss the matter with other students, that's fucking flame.
FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME MOTHERFUCKER. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:50 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold I now can; that injunction (or "advisement", since technically they couldn't enforce it) was only before my meeting with the department head. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6202907) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:56 PM Author: twinkling travel guidebook SO WHAT HAPPENED? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6202986) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:06 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold See below. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203112) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:55 PM Author: Vibrant public bath half-breed C+ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6202974) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 2:57 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Met with dept. chair this morning. He was an hour late for our conversation, which I didn't take as a good sign. Worse yet, he was in his office the whole time, but on the phone.
There's nothing I can do about the -8/F; the language department has no policy against negative scores. However, the chair said that if I take German 101 with him in the fall, my grade can supplant the failure and the F will be converted to a Drop.
Professors' salaries at my college are not flat based on many factors including course enrollment. (This is to prevent them from becoming deadweight once they get tenure.) The chair just wants to extort more money out of me. However, the Berlin application requires an official transcript to be sent July 15th. So this "second chance" doesn't save me because I'll still get booted from the Berlin program. Fuck. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:07 PM Author: razzle scarlet resort giraffe nobody's fault but your own. learn the material next time. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203130) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:09 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold You didn't even read the thread. I knew the material *extremely* well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203154) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:13 PM Author: razzle scarlet resort giraffe well, you tried to annoy your prof by intentionally making those 12 errors. thus, you actually PROVOKED your own pwn4ge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203202) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:17 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold That's not fair. Fs are given for not knowing the material, not for being annoying or obnoxious in the last paragraph of a 10-page paper.
Do you have an idea how ridiculous -9 per gender error is? |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:22 PM Author: razzle scarlet resort giraffe you tried to annoy the prof. profs aren't your friends. they're on a higher pedestal than that. you can't treat them like you'd treat your sister or brother or friend or something. it's like talking back to cops: just don't do it. it's not fair, but such is life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203315) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:24 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold A prof, or one who teaches anyway, is in the service industry. You're right that he's not my friend. He fucking works for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203334) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:33 PM Author: razzle scarlet resort giraffe he works for the SCHOOL, not you. your analogy is so dumb - it's like saying McDonald's employees actually work for you, not McDonald's. in other words, you pay your school to receive an education, and the school, in turn, pays the professor for teaching you. that doesn't mean the professor works for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203435) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:51 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Who pays the school tuition?
Well my parents do, but you get the point. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 12:47 AM Author: Motley tattoo hell whoa, you're a moron. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215793) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 12:49 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold No. College tuition is a major source of revenue for top universities, especially in subjects like German. Do you think the federal government writes grants for German lit research? No. That professor's salary is paid entirely by college tuition. Well, who pays college tuition? Students. Ergo, the prof works for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215809) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 12:57 AM Author: Motley tattoo hell to extend this fantastically logically bankrupt analogy a bit: microsoft employees' salaries are paid by, well, consumers. do microsoft employees work for me? did they sign an employment contract bearing my insignia? do i tell them what work guidelines to follow, what projects to undertake, and how and what to innovate? do i discipline them when they do wrong? do i reprimand them when they don't do what i think they should do?
don't ever take the LSAT. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 12:59 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold For whom do professors work if not us? The universities, which are in service to their students.
The entire concept of college is to serve students. Professors play merely a subordinate role. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:02 AM Author: Motley tattoo hell show me the employment contract your prof signed with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215880) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:07 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold He signed one with the university, and I employed the university for my education. He's a subcontractor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215906) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:09 PM Author: twinkling travel guidebook what's your next move? is there a higher up to appeal to? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203157) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:12 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold In the summer? I doubt it. I won't be able to get a hold of anyone in the next 3 days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203188) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:16 PM Author: dark corn cake sneaky criminal Ha ha!
Loser. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:26 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Wrong. The Harvard Crimson is considering my case/story for publication (and I don't go to Harvard). I will become a folk celebrity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203357) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:27 PM Author: twinkling travel guidebook why don't you say what school you go to here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6203364) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 3:29 PM Author: Costumed forum cuckold For the same reason as my decision to use a community account. I don't want to be outed just yet.
If the Crimson story runs, of course, then it'll be a lost cause. But until this is getting sufficient positive coverage I don't want to take the risk of outing myself as someone who will be perceieved-- and wrongly, I might add-- as a loser rather than an iconoclast. |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 6:32 PM Author: dark corn cake sneaky criminal Ooooh. The Harvard Crimson is going to take up your case.
DING!
PWN3D! |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 5:02 PM Author: sepia pisswyrm This is, by far, the best thread of the week. Maybe even the year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6204281) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 6:11 PM Author: Vibrant public bath half-breed Hi, you must be new here. Please, sir, be sure to get off the internets at the next stop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6204818) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 6:10 PM Author: Ruddy Ceo Heaven I'm annoyed by the prof's behavior. Academia seems to attract some vindictive, passive-agressive types. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6204804) |
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Date: July 13th, 2006 6:19 PM Author: Flesh french chef You got what you deserved, but you should exact some revenge.
Have you no pride man?
If this had happened to me, that prof would be opening his mailbox up to feces, his gas tank full of sugar, and I would stalk and scare his wife.
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Date: July 15th, 2006 12:45 AM Author: Coral lay Let us know what the results are on your Berlin program.
I told your story to some of my gunner douche threads and they had already heard of it. It sounds like it's making the rounds. That, or more people post to XO than I originally thought. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 12:48 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold I'll probably know within a couple of days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215797) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 12:58 AM Author: confused flatulent pit sex offender You're a worthless rich prick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215854) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:01 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Why do you think I'm rich? What could I have posted that would imply that?
My parents make less than $250,000 per year. COMBINED. I bet their house isn't even worth single digits and, since they live in California, you can guess who small and "quaint" (to use a realtor's term) it is. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:02 AM Author: confused flatulent pit sex offender Less than 250,000 a year? That's better than a lot of people. They have enough extra cash to blow on your abortive attempt at a higher education. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215874) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:06 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold "Less than $250k a year" is probably most people. My point, though, is that I don't come from a rich family at all.
Everyone has their parents pay for college these days. Do you have any idea how much college costs? Paying one's way and going into debt went out in the '50s. Enjoy student loans. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:07 AM Author: confused flatulent pit sex offender Like I said, worthless rich prick. Enjoy your deserved self-PWNAGE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215907) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:10 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold I'm not getting pwned. I'll enjoy pwning him when I sue the rat bastard and the university makes him change the grade. The 0 on the paper will be the most satisfying zero I'll ever get. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215929) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:07 AM Author: Motley tattoo hell "Everyone has their parents pay for college these days."
you're getting dumber and dumber as the thread moves along. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:14 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold No one would go to college if he had to pay his own way. Why? A college degree is absolutely nothing these days on the job market, so it wouldn't make the least bit of sense. People are willing to trade $300k (including living expenses) of their parents' money to drink and goof off, but no one would go $300k into debt for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215956) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:15 AM Author: confused flatulent pit sex offender OK, now I know this is flame. You had me going for a while. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6215961) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:18 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold It's not flame. When you include all the secondary expenses (travel, prep courses, etc.) college costs at least $300k.
Tuition: $180k Rent/food: $80k Getting in: $5-60k (prep HS included here) Living/fun: $40k Airfare/study-abroad: $4-20k
It adds up. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:23 AM Author: confused flatulent pit sex offender Your parents spent a lot of money on something you just said didn't matter. I'd like to think that if my kid was as useless a douchebag as yourself I'd make him go to the state school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6216002) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:24 AM Author: cracking roommate gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6216005) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:25 AM Author: Motley tattoo hell wow, you're stupider than anything i've ever encountered in my life. DO YOU FUCKING KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE DEBT LOAD FOR COLLEGE GRADUATES IS? this is my last post on this execrable thread. i only wish your stupidity hasn't infected me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6216010) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:22 AM Author: provocative very tactful hunting ground "Date: July 13th, 2006 12:24 AM Author: sinew vagina spine
I'm going to Berlin in the fall and decided to take a German class over the summer. The grading system is out of 300, scaled as follows: "
Am I seriously not supposed to notice that your moniker is an anagram for "pensive wins again"? Jesus, you're a crazy motherfucker. Look at all the times you replied insulting yourself in this thread.
On second thought that's actually pretty awesome. Way to go dude, people like you keep this board going. Do not seek help. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:24 AM Author: confused flatulent pit sex offender That's really clever. This guy really needs to get laid, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6216007) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 1:52 AM Author: sexy box office nice catch.
this dbag needs professional help. |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 4:30 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state To my credit, I also arranged that "pensive wins again" be detected right around the 163rd post. This was intentional by design. I didn't hit 163 exactly, but close enough given that I've been fucking drunk all night and not posting regularly. I've hit several Internet cafes in Bklyn between drinks, just to see how close to 163 XO was.
I used the made-up word "senpivian" (pensivian) as synonymous with "brilliant" to describe prose. I posted under a community account (welterweight), which is an obvious sign of someone trying to flame the board. How did it take the board this long to find out? |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 5:08 AM Author: Sable cuckoldry corner much less time than it took you to plan this "clever" maneuver? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6216816) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 5:53 AM Author: avocado selfie home moron. we all know you wanted the thread to reach 174 posts, in commemoration of your idol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#6216840) |
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Date: July 15th, 2006 6:18 AM Author: Costumed forum cuckold Date: July 15th, 2006 1:22 AM Author: Def Con Blubbard (Fellating Tom Cruise Via Sandwich)
"Date: July 13th, 2006 12:24 AM
Author: sinew vagina spine
I'm going to Berlin in the fall and decided to take a German class over the summer. The grading system is out of 300, scaled as follows: "
Am I seriously not supposed to notice that your moniker is an anagram for "pensive wins again"? Jesus, you're a crazy motherfucker. Look at all the times you replied insulting yourself in this thread.
On second thought that's actually pretty awesome. Way to go dude, people like you keep this board going. Do not seek help. |
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Date: March 7th, 2007 3:11 AM Author: Hairraiser wine state BUMP.
Guys, please bump this throughout the day. Also the Media Kid threads. |
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Date: March 7th, 2007 3:37 AM Author: Fuchsia Location there is seriously something wrong with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=453073&forum_id=2#7721298) |