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Is there anything that details DAY in the life of CORP vs. LIT?
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Date: March 8th, 2010 12:09 PM Author: titillating black woman Kind of want to get a feel for the differences day to day as far as tasks go.
I struck out at ibanking in UG and am a junkie for financial news. I excitedly follow the markets and have a degree in economics.
I don't know if I enjoy "research" so much, but I certainly do enjoy public speaking. I'm great at it and thrive off of constructing and destroying arguments. I am a champion debater to boot.
Thoughts?
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Date: March 8th, 2010 12:10 PM Author: zippy insanely creepy mental disorder make better flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14331483) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 12:12 PM Author: titillating black woman you're a miserable fuck if you think this is flame
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Date: March 8th, 2010 12:34 PM Author: spectacular coffee pot double fault I regard it as my duty to mentor clueless fucks like you about the nature of our profession so here goes.
If you dont go to a T14 school there is a 90% chance you will work in shitlaw. In shitlaw there is basically (with limited exception) no such thing as "transactional work." Shit lawyers are in court making appearance 4 days in 5. They shovel reams of shit paper backwards and forwards and generally hate their lives. 90% of the job is paperwork that nobody actually reads and Im not kidding when I say NOBODY. State court judges dont read half the motions before them -- they dont need to because its the same shit over and over again.
There will be public speaking. You will get to tell the judge how your clients compressed disc and whiplash injury is sufficient to overcome threshold in the state and the judge will quietly curse you for bringing this BS case before him and will grant the carriers threshold motion. Everyone in the courtroom will recognize you are a shitlaw lawyer the second they hear its a threshold motion.
95% of your cases will be complete slop and the only people you will hate more than yourself will be your welfare recipient clients and their BS soft tissue injuries. Motor vehicle accidents are 25-40% of the docket in most states. Chances are good that's what you will be doing.
If you are fortunate enough to make biglaw you might actually find yourself doing transactional work, but your "following the market" wont help you any because transactional work is all about not missing commas and making sure terms sheets make fucking sense. You will be a glorified editor. Nobody will give a shit about your deep insights into the market because you arent paid to do the business side of anything. The new hot thing in transactional is FCPA work so maybe you will get to supervise a doc review project in Nigeria.
Biglaw litigation is enough to give a normal person a heart attack. I'd describe the stress, but if you've never had a foot long dildo shoved up your ass you wont really understand.
And despite all this, I dont really hate my job. I dont know know how to do anything else so I've resigned myself to doing this shit until I die.
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Date: March 8th, 2010 12:40 PM Author: titillating black woman TY
I'm familiar with most of what you mentioned. I would never pay to attend LS that wasn't a T14 and am planning accordingly. Also, my dad is a solo attorney so I'm familiar with what is commonly regarded as SHITLAW on here.
Within BIGLAW... what do you think is a better gig? Lit or Corporate? Outside of those 2 things, do you think practice groups like T&E, Tax or IP are better? Why? |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 12:47 PM Author: spectacular coffee pot double fault I dont think you really understand a thing I've written. There is no good option. IP is overflowing with people. Biglaw doesnt do much T&E. Rich people know not to pay $1k an hour for trust docs to be prepared. These days half the tax people are LLM's or CPA's. The firm may pay for you to get the LLM, but in this economy it might not. I could keep going down the list, but the gist of it is to avoid this profession ITE.
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Date: March 8th, 2010 12:55 PM Author: titillating black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14331775) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 1:02 PM Author: dead cuckoldry brethren Titcr. This should be stickied. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14331849) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 1:08 PM Author: spectacular coffee pot double fault TY. I tried my best to copy the style of a certain L4L. I think it worked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14331893) |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:09 AM Author: Yapping locale dysfunction i agree except w/ your distinction between shitlaw and biglaw. there is no difference. litigation is litigation. you file the same shit but with different arguments. it's not like in biglaw you sit around all day thinking up brilliant, creative arguments. 99% of shit has already been researched that you need and you can pull it from the shared drive and update it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14338427) |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:14 AM Author: sinister state there is a huge distinction. biglawers sit around doing doc review and writing memos all day. shitlawyers do whatever the fuck shitlawyers do, but it's isn't doc review. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14338486) |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:25 AM Author: Yapping locale dysfunction you obviously work in NYC. not all biglaw firms have a lot of doc review. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14338626) |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:26 AM Author: sinister state serious? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14338640) |
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Date: March 10th, 2010 10:04 PM Author: angry ebony persian kitty cat i'll give you 90%...there's still the occasional space for a novel argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14356211) |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:23 AM Author: Light Hominid 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14338589) |
Date: March 8th, 2010 12:18 PM Author: titillating black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14331544) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:39 PM Author: Very tactful factory reset button One consideration is that the exit ops are a lot better for corporate. But I'm lit and I'm not sure that I'm familiar enough with corporate to tell you what their days are like. From what I gather from friends, there's a lot of sitting around waiting for stuff to happen, and then, bam, you're on a deal, and you work crazy hours. Not sure what the actual work really entails though.
My day-to-day life is about 80% legal research/writing and 20% doc review. Every once in a while, we'll have a meeting and talk about stuff. From what I gather, midlevels do a little less research and more case management stuff, which appears to be talking with the client, figuring out what the juniors should do, and mundane stuff like scheduling. Less sure about what seniors and partners do all day.
Also, if you're in discovery, people spend a lot of time taking depositions, preparing witnesses, etc. Haven't been to trial yet, but that looks basically like a nightmare. |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:13 AM Author: sinister state what year are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14338471) |
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Date: March 10th, 2010 10:00 PM Author: Very tactful factory reset button I clerked, so technically I am a second year, but in reality I am kinda a first year. It's really kinda a weird mix of first year and second year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14356166) |
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Date: March 10th, 2010 10:04 PM Author: Light Hominid are you at a v5? nyc? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14356215) |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 1:15 AM Author: translucent glittery church boistinker this thread is useful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1244684&forum_id=2#14339184) |