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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Flirting ape
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
  12/16/25
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Flirting ape
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Flirting ape
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency
  12/17/25
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Flirting ape
  12/17/25
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Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Stimulating balding whorehouse old irish cottage
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
  12/16/25
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Stimulating balding whorehouse old irish cottage
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
crimson chapel
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
mind-boggling spruce hall
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Sinister striped hyena shitlib
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Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
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Flirting ape
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Blathering glittery tanning salon
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
talented mischievous field
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Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office
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Blathering glittery tanning salon
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Flirting ape
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Flirting ape
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Cyan startling pisswyrm
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Flirting ape



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Flirting ape

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Flirting ape

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Flirting ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Stimulating balding whorehouse old irish cottage

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Stimulating balding whorehouse old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: crimson chapel

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: mind-boggling spruce hall

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Sinister striped hyena shitlib

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Flirting ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516689)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Blathering glittery tanning salon

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: talented mischievous field

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Arrogant territorial organic girlfriend office



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Blathering glittery tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Flirting ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Flirting ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516681)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: At-the-ready ruby international law enforcement agency

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Cyan startling pisswyrm

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515738)