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NYU got sued from a former dental student - and lost

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=957826
Maroon excitant base
  06/09/13
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Vibrant Parlour Fortuitous Meteor
  06/09/13
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Maroon excitant base
  06/09/13
what am I missing? Why didn't she just pay the 2000 dollars?
Obsidian corner
  06/09/13
http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2012/2012_06834.ht...
Maroon excitant base
  06/09/13
She did, after the school asked her to. Then the school said...
Mahogany chest-beating windowlicker
  06/09/13
"what am I missing?" Reading comprehension skil...
ruby fighting plaza
  06/09/13
so NYU is going to appeal the decision? wtf is wrong with NY...
Submissive Fragrant Orchestra Pit Bbw
  06/09/13
they probs. won't actually appeal, just said that so that th...
Mahogany chest-beating windowlicker
  06/09/13
cause they litereally PWN 25k+ students a year
kink-friendly dashing faggotry stead
  06/09/13
wow fuck NYU i hope her lawsuit gapes them for millions
razzmatazz selfie
  06/09/13
That woman is 28? LOL @ white women
azure legend
  06/09/13
Holy crap, no kidding, I thought she was over 40.
Spectacular university kitty
  06/12/13
If you read the Student Doctor Network thread it looks like ...
Cream stimulating stage becky
  06/09/13
Just read the court case. This girl is a victim of a retard...
soul-stirring bearded locus
  06/11/13
Kickertz alleges that the underlying charges themselves were...
soul-stirring bearded locus
  06/11/13
The work is not free, it is mostly medicaid stuff though.
Crawly home
  06/11/13
So just to detail the due process offenses against Kickertz:...
soul-stirring bearded locus
  06/11/13
Crazy eyes
Crawly home
  06/11/13


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Date: June 9th, 2013 4:55 PM
Author: Maroon excitant base

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=957826

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23360146)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: Vibrant Parlour Fortuitous Meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23360222)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 6:09 PM
Author: Maroon excitant base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23360636)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 6:12 PM
Author: Obsidian corner

what am I missing? Why didn't she just pay the 2000 dollars?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23360656)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 6:19 PM
Author: Maroon excitant base

http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2012/2012_06834.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23360712)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 6:33 PM
Author: Mahogany chest-beating windowlicker

She did, after the school asked her to. Then the school said paying it was unethical and revoked her degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23360792)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 7:44 PM
Author: ruby fighting plaza

"what am I missing?"

Reading comprehension skills, apparently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23361301)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 7:14 PM
Author: Submissive Fragrant Orchestra Pit Bbw

so NYU is going to appeal the decision? wtf is wrong with NYU. why is it going to such lengths to pwn this chick over $2k in work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23361091)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 7:15 PM
Author: Mahogany chest-beating windowlicker

they probs. won't actually appeal, just said that so that they would have a response for the media to put in after saying they lost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23361105)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 7:20 PM
Author: kink-friendly dashing faggotry stead

cause they litereally PWN 25k+ students a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23361147)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 7:35 PM
Author: razzmatazz selfie

wow fuck NYU i hope her lawsuit gapes them for millions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23361237)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 7:41 PM
Author: azure legend

That woman is 28?

LOL @ white women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23361285)



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Date: June 12th, 2013 3:11 PM
Author: Spectacular university kitty

Holy crap, no kidding, I thought she was over 40.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23381266)



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Date: June 9th, 2013 7:51 PM
Author: Cream stimulating stage becky

If you read the Student Doctor Network thread it looks like she's full of shit. The school said:

-She falsified patient records (several extractions were magically done in one evening) to make it look like she did work she didn't do

-...work that was required of all students by the school as part of their hands on training. The "$38k" was some arbitrarily assigned values to the required procedures, in an attempt to teach the dental students about business practices/thinking about production in terms of $. The work was all free and provided to needy community members.

who knows what really went down but they're probably both terrible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23361341)



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Date: June 11th, 2013 10:24 PM
Author: soul-stirring bearded locus

Just read the court case. This girl is a victim of a retarded school witch hunt.

They could have just let her graduate and then made her make up the missing $2,000 in procedures. BUT NO. They would not let her do that and would not give her any more clients, so she had no way to come up with $2,000 in billings. Then her advisor told her she would just have to pay for the difference herself and she did.

Allegedly the advisor was the one that told her to create the records which were for the exact amount that she was missing. Everything was charged to her credit card. If she was trying to truly doctor the patient records, she would not have made one credit card payment for all the procedures. The whole thing is fucking retarded and NYU should have used more common sense. Even if she was guilty of bad judgement blah blah blah expelling her was a completely fucked up thing to do.

The appellate court 100% got it right and pretty much reamed NYU in its opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23376566)



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Date: June 11th, 2013 10:32 PM
Author: soul-stirring bearded locus

Kickertz alleges that the underlying charges themselves were bogus. She claims she had been informed by her supervisor that to meet the revenue-generation requirement, she needed to pay out-of-pocket and attribute the payment to clinic work. Backing up this claim is Kickertz's cash and credit payment to NYU in the exact amount of her PMV shortfall.

Furthermore, as the appeals court in her case noted, NYU has to date not produced the actual "falsified" patient charts in any court hearing or during any internal disciplinary hearing. Thus, the factual basis for NYU's misconduct claims against Kickertz is lacking, and had she been able to defend herself she might have been exonerated on the merits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23376629)



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Date: June 11th, 2013 10:35 PM
Author: Crawly home

The work is not free, it is mostly medicaid stuff though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23376647)



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Date: June 11th, 2013 10:28 PM
Author: soul-stirring bearded locus

So just to detail the due process offenses against Kickertz: (1) post hoc notice that she was accused; (2) investigation and conviction in absentia; (3) no right to counsel at her sentencing, and her NYU advisor was not allowed to fully participate; (4) no right to call rebuttal witnesses; (5) application of a student code promulgated in the middle of her final semester; (6) summary pronouncements by the Dean, as well as statements calling into question his influence on allegedly impartial decisions; and (7) a disproportionate punishment, that, as the appellate court noted, "shocks one's sense of fairness."

This is a good article about the case:

http://thefire.org/article/15247.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23376600)



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Date: June 11th, 2013 10:28 PM
Author: Crawly home

Crazy eyes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2277311&forum_id=2#23376604)