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Date: February 15th, 2016 12:50 AM Author: multi-colored fanboi
hey friend.
I thought it was the GOAT debate in American history. I thought Trump did an amazing job and my dick leaked when he destroyed Yeb and Cruz.
However, I think Rubio is the likely nominee now. He wasn't a fail this time. Trump may be right on Iraq/GWB, but that will limit his support ceiling in the Republican Party. 70% of the party still loves GWB deeply. Trump's 30% will never leave him, but now he has difficulty expanding to 60% of the GOP.
He totally annihilated Cruz with the "biggest liar" attack. It was like Yeb! and low-energy. He said what everyone was thinking and now he made it mainstream. Cruz = liar will be playing in every voters head now.
By virtue of Trump DESTROYING Bush and Cruz, he makes Rubio the most likely nominee. Rubio is also getting the Carson endorsement after SC. Interestingly, Rubio is the only Republican Trump hasn't really attacked. I wonder if they are buddies now.
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Date: February 15th, 2016 12:54 AM Author: adventurous stage reading party
i agree with ur analysis for the most part but it was FCKNG DISGUSTING how stacked the audience was. they started cheering Bush even before he finished and booing Trump even as he started
I do think it is Trump-Rubio race now but I think trump has the edge RIGHT NOW. as u said we havent seen him go after Rubio and he has destroyed everybody he has gone after. Also most imprtantly Rubio literally wrote the amnesty bill and while he could parry Cruz bcos of his own amendment and obfuscate the issue he cant do that shit to trump. Trump will destroy Rubio there
so I think in terms of win probability for GOP nomination as of today it is:
trump - 45%
Rubio - 30%
Cruz - 15%
Kasich - 5%
Yeb - 5%
Carson - 0%
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Date: February 15th, 2016 12:56 AM Author: multi-colored fanboi
yeah, I heard complaints about the audience even from anti-Trump people. It was really nasty and everyone knows it. That is why I don't think it strengthens Bush. Trump actually painted Bush as corrupt lobbyist in everyone's mind.
The problem with Rubio v. Trump is that GOP voters aren't THAT anti-immigration. They split legitimately 50/50 or 40/60 on Rubio's amnesty bill.
If the two fight to a draw on immigration, Rubio wins the day because his social views gets the evangelicals on board - while the foreign policy 9/11 thing is going to hurt.
Trump needs Cruz in the race.
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Date: February 15th, 2016 1:02 AM Author: multi-colored fanboi
http://www.people-press.org/2015/06/04/broad-public-support-for-legal-status-for-undocumented-immigrants/
On legal immigration, 21% want more, 34% want the same, and 42%.
40% support deporting all illegals, 25% support a path to citizenship, 28% support a non-citizen form of legal status.
I think you are confusing people's attitudes on Muslims/refugees with their views on amnesty. Deport-them-all is a plurality, but not majority-position in the GOP electorate.
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Date: February 15th, 2016 1:01 AM Author: adventurous stage reading party
yah but u forgot that ALL OF GOP is viciously anti-muslim and Trump has cornered that market. That plus the 35~40% who are extremely anti-immigrant will be enough for Trump
Plus ppl trust Trump on economy so wait until he gets started on Rubio's billionaire backer etc
Rubio has a shot but i wont count out Trump at all even head to head
Remember nobody gave Rubio a chance and Bush was the presumed nominee until Trump entered the race and destroyed Bush. So Rubio is supposed to be like Mohamed Ali now? lol even Christie fcked him over real good
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Date: February 15th, 2016 1:04 AM Author: multi-colored fanboi
Agreed, Trump's position on Muslims is strong for him. The problem is, many of these peopleare the proles who are most likely to support GWB for "keeping America safe" or whatever. Trump may have alienated many of these people who aren't full-Trumpmos, but were possible future Trumpmos.
Trump's strategy in the debate was low-risk, low-reward.
If Bush beats Rubio in SC, I think Trump has the nomination. He'll take his 35% and soar over the divided field. But if the field consolidates before Super Tuesday, it looks way worse for him.
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Date: February 15th, 2016 1:10 AM Author: adventurous stage reading party
nah
IMO ppl were resigned to the GOP talking points bcos there was no credible alternative. most of GOP base also hates the Iraq war. it was literally the most retarded thing ever and only the most retarded part of GOP base swallows the neo con talking points
You vastly overestimate how many ppl would be anti-trump bcos of that. Infact this will help trump show he is an outsider who is not part of the establishment and shore up his image as a strong alpha who can take on anybody and speak the truth
for the nomination its probably a draw or a small small loss. for the general election if he becomes the nominee its going to be great especially against Hillary
also none of the shit he told yesterday was NEW. he already said that and already had the argument with Jeb in previous debate abt 9/11 and Iraq. so how come suddenly it will fck him up? u mean ppl didnt notice that even though it was a big controversy already?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUoegbfdkdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoWvpCQkY9s
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