Someone explain the IRAN situation to me; did we lose?
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Date: May 14th, 2026 12:49 PM Author: bipolar ivory goal in life round eye
Objectives were to remove discounted Iranian oil from the market and stress test alliances. Preventing an Iranian nuke is a legitimate goal but that didn't need a military strike. It is not a strategic goal to remove the Iranian threat. Some degree of bogeyman must be preserved in order to continue to justify the large US military presence in the region.
I don't think people understand that the real target is China. Also this was all gamed through AI and might be the first situation of this type. Clear Venezuela first, next remove China from Nigeria then then benefits of hitting Iran become clearer. The massive investments in Venezuela aren't possible with out increased oil prices. That was essential so long as prices remained only high and not record breaking. The effectiveness of the military strikes also demonstrated who as a country you should be creating security agreements with. Hint: nobody ran to China.
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Date: July 14th, 2026 6:16 PM Author: gibberish (?)
Let's start with 2027. That's the ccp date for the ability to invade Taiwan. Not that they will actually conduct an invasion, but shit has to be ready by then. China has been building up massive ridiculous oil reserves as part of the prep. So large that it started to be a gimme in intel circles, basically unassailable. Note China has TWO oil choke points and Singapore is much more significant. However, china built their reserves on the cheap with discounted Iranian, Venezuelan, Nigerian and Russian energy. Presidents don't decide foreign policy outright, but one of the options trump was given to counter the Chinese threat to AI (Taiwan makes the chips) must have included the energy choke, very aggressive but Trump took it. We cleared Venezuela and Nigeria in 2025, and now it's Russia and Iran.
Iran is interesting because it produces energy as well as controls a choke point. Those are both opportunities. An attack on Iran surely will hinder their production, but it also causes this bottleneck. The US has the largest navy but can't go around and blockade ports without a pretext. If this was Mongolian or Roman rules the big dick us navy would be charging fees anywhere we could. You want access to middle east energy, play by our rules. But times being what they are, we get the situation now. And if the strat is closed, Texas is more than happy to provide you with as much oil as you want.
The US will keep middle eastern energy under wraps for as long as is politically practicable.
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Date: July 14th, 2026 6:21 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,.,...,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,.
Living up to your username as usual
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Date: July 14th, 2026 6:37 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,
No you didn't
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Date: July 14th, 2026 6:40 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,
You just made that up or you're lying about who said it
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Date: July 14th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
Viewed as a means of liberating Iranians who oppose the Islamic Republic or advancing any immediate U.S. interest (including, but not limited to, Iran obtaining nuclear weapons) it’s been a massive failure. If you believe either that the supersonic Chinese missiles Iran was going to buy from China in February were a legitimate threat to destabilize the Middle East it was likely a medium term win just by constraining them. And if you believe China was genuinely convinced that its drone capabilities/capacity and the proof point of the Russia-Ukraine war was pushing them to invade Taiwan soon then it was a good demonstration of how thoroughly our weapons tech still AMOGs the fuck out of theirs and the stuff they source from Iran and an impetus for us to accelerate our MIC shift away from dumb expensive systems and planes toward drones and cyber capability, which may or may not have achieved a deterrent effect. As steelman cases go that one is pretty weak, but the Israelis were always in it for the mullah killing/toppling, and people who think the IRI regime emerged from the war stronger are retarded and source everything they believe about Iran from the IRGC’s LEGO propaganda videos. In reality it’s likely fatal to the regime to have the moderates and hardliners in this much of a hot war with each other while the economy is completely fucked (see also, the extent to which Maduro and Saddam getting got was downstream from our efforts to keep their economies completely in the years leading up to regime change in both countries).
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Date: July 14th, 2026 7:14 PM Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)
We lost $60b worth of stuff.
Some dead Americans.
Lost of role of US providing stability and peace to the region.
An extra 1.5% in inflation for Americans.
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