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Describe the difference: V3 lit assoc, V100 lit assoc, random
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:38 PM Author: motley lemon internal respiration Describe the likely differences between a 2nd-3rd yr lit assoc. at:
1. a V3; 2. a V100; and 3. a random 75 atty firm (ins defense)
in terms of ability to synthesize information, ability to make compelling arguments, writing ability, etc. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:39 PM Author: beta headpube V3/munger/keker etc are generally gonna be better at all that stuff, which is intelligence-based, but that is only a small part of lit. and so grinders at a v50 with good judgment and higher endurance may often be a much better attorney (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708099) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:41 PM Author: Canary Tank Dood, outside places like Munger, Quinn (maybe), Keker and other sorta prestigous lit shops most "prestigious" firms don't let junior associates do jack shit. I know ppl at V10's who just did DOC REVIEW for two years then got shit canned.
This is generally true of most v100 firms really, though if you are in a more specialized practice group at a lower ranked firm you probably won't do as much shit lit.
But seriously, I highly doubt most v10 lit associates know how to do shit really even by 3rd year. I was at a v100 and by third year i really had a pretty good grasp of shit and i only spent maybe 2 weeks doing doc review |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:43 PM Author: cowardly point is this also true in corp at v3? they just do DD? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708137) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:43 PM Author: Fishy patrolman private investor i've done less than 1 week of doc review at my v5 and i'm a second year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708145) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:45 PM Author: Canary Tank I know ppl at other places who just did almost exclusively doc review.. seems esp if ur firm does big IP shit and stuff like that then its doc review heavy.. i know ppl are wilson sonsini who just did doc review FOREVER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708170) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:48 PM Author: beta headpube bro i try to do as much doc review as i can. easy billables (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708196) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:48 PM Author: beta headpube i didnt work at one of the v10 megafirms so i cant really speak to that. but there are plenty of people at munger,keker etc that hide for 2 years (email research memos, managing doc review, etc) and then leave. they were smart people but just hated law firm life. but a senior associate at one of these places pwns the fuck out of a service partner at my current firm.
oh, and fuck quinn. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:49 PM Author: Indecent water buffalo (faggot who calls firms "shops" like a fucking retarded faggot) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708206) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:43 PM Author: chocolate travel guidebook 1. figures out how some random bad district court opinion is distinguishable from the case he has and then digs through 100s of cases to find and make a clear legal argument that makes sense and is likely correct. Comes up with innovative arguments not directly addressed in cases. Will be able to review 1000s of documents to piece together some theory on the facts that advances his client's position. Takes forever to do anything. 2. knows the facts of his 10m contract claim suit and general contract law, but does not have any innovative thoughts or creative arguments that actually work. 3. knows how to change the parties names on form discovery |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:47 PM Author: Canary Tank LOL bro, some of the best litigators are at all shit firms
lots of BIGLAW litigators are fuking morons who just troll the system (i.e. bill 2,500 hours, make partner, steal sometone client)
most BIGLAW litigators have NO idea about trial and don't see the broader parts of a case
and most of all most BIGLAW litigators are just trying to maximize profits by billing hours and hours.. they never would admit it of course but that really is there only litigation strategy.. rape the client without getting caught |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:49 PM Author: Heady Iridescent Idea He Suggested Meetinghouse cool non sequitur bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708201) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:56 PM Author: chocolate travel guidebook CR, if I was going to trial and needing someone on their feet, a junior V3 would not be my choice. Maybe they would be good, but could be an epic fail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708274) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:51 PM Author: beta headpube 2 seems pretty accurate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708225) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:57 PM Author: Canary Tank u dont need innovative arguments to win a contract suit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708279) |
Date: May 16th, 2012 11:42 PM Author: Saffron Free-loading Resort the first one carefully and deliberately positions his firm emblazoned briefcase with the logo facing outward, upright and such that it is not obscured by any article of clothing. he does this every time that he gets on the subway, and he double checks it every time as he is leaving the station. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708133) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:50 PM Author: beta headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708213) |
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Date: May 17th, 2012 12:04 AM Author: black place of business site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708344) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:47 PM Author: trip purple nursing home *masturbates furiously* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708186) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 11:50 PM Author: Indecent water buffalo haven't sucked the cock of a v3 yet. i'm no use here, please ask someone else for their opinion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708215) |
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Date: May 17th, 2012 12:03 AM Author: Magenta theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950415&forum_id=2#20708338) |