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What is a staff attorney at a big firm and how is different

from an associate position?
sepia boyish native telephone
  05/26/13
Pluses: Doesn't really seem to be up or out Minuses: ...
stirring metal stock car
  05/26/13
You're a doc review monkey and get paid half as much. You al...
Puce Stimulating Mad-dog Skullcap Orchestra Pit
  05/26/13
I see. Any way to transition out or into a normal position ...
sepia boyish native telephone
  05/26/13
It's really tough because lawyers know that you are a second...
Puce Stimulating Mad-dog Skullcap Orchestra Pit
  05/26/13
You sometimes see these people go to state AGs office or som...
Startled market hairy legs
  05/26/13
at my firm, staff associates in litigation are "discove...
Beady-eyed antidepressant drug
  05/26/13
Doc review.
abnormal public bath messiness
  05/26/13
There are a few firms where staff attorneys get to do stuff ...
Cobalt goal in life
  05/26/13
I know a dood who went from a notorious shitlaw firm to a re...
Insecure Concupiscible Regret
  05/26/13
possible to go staff attorney to real BigLaw just by leaving...
Indigo Marvelous Jewess Meetinghouse
  05/26/13
maybe if u are (1) willing to convincingly lie your ass off ...
Cobalt goal in life
  05/26/13
I know a guy who did this for like 7 years at a big firm. H...
vengeful vivacious lodge azn
  05/26/13
This is a better outcome than some real associates get.
spectacular frozen garrison
  05/26/13
Cr. How did he cop in-house? Is he a Persian bro?
Puce Stimulating Mad-dog Skullcap Orchestra Pit
  05/26/13
Lol, he actually was. You know him? I don't how he got it....
vengeful vivacious lodge azn
  05/26/13
Lol. I was just kidding, alluding to Diesel copping an in-ho...
Puce Stimulating Mad-dog Skullcap Orchestra Pit
  05/26/13
In nyc they start at six figures.
Primrose university party of the first part
  05/26/13
nice
Gay awkward marketing idea
  05/26/13
I am one of these at lower v100. They actually make associat...
learning disabled chad
  05/26/13
Lol, there's no limit to what you can becum bro
sepia boyish native telephone
  05/26/13


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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:02 PM
Author: sepia boyish native telephone

from an associate position?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272297)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:04 PM
Author: stirring metal stock car

Pluses:

Doesn't really seem to be up or out

Minuses:

Not partner track

Do shittier work, like supervising doc reviews etc.

Paid less

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272301)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: Puce Stimulating Mad-dog Skullcap Orchestra Pit

You're a doc review monkey and get paid half as much. You also don't really gain any worthwhile legal skills or experience. Still better than unemployment though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272307)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: sepia boyish native telephone

I see. Any way to transition out or into a normal position somewhere else based on this experience?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272326)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 12:13 PM
Author: Puce Stimulating Mad-dog Skullcap Orchestra Pit

It's really tough because lawyers know that you are a second-class citizen. There are a few TTT exit options like "lit support", but that's really not much better than the staff attorney track.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272336)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 1:01 PM
Author: Startled market hairy legs

You sometimes see these people go to state AGs office or something of that ilk. Obv the staff attorney experience isn't going to be a boost there. I have seen them go to doc review vendors but I think any pay raise is incremental there, maybe 90k to 100k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272538)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 1:03 PM
Author: Beady-eyed antidepressant drug

at my firm, staff associates in litigation are "discovery specialists." that is, they have a lot of technical and operational expertise with document collection, litigation holds, etc. it's actually not a bad position to leverage into an in-house job if you want to because large companies are beginning to develop this kind of expertise in-house. that said, it's not really being a "lawyer."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272547)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 1:05 PM
Author: abnormal public bath messiness

Doc review.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272558)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 1:47 PM
Author: Cobalt goal in life

There are a few firms where staff attorneys get to do stuff but it's mostly a doc review position.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272735)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:00 PM
Author: Insecure Concupiscible Regret

I know a dood who went from a notorious shitlaw firm to a respected shitlaw firm to a staff attorney position in Biglaw. But after a few years, he got tired of the downsides mentioned above, and so he left the SA gig for an in-house job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272786)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:03 PM
Author: Indigo Marvelous Jewess Meetinghouse

possible to go staff attorney to real BigLaw just by leaving off 'staff attorney' on resume?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272802)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 8:18 PM
Author: Cobalt goal in life

maybe if u are (1) willing to convincingly lie your ass off to multiple people. they are going to ask you during interview what kind of shit you did at the firm. (2) pray to god they don't do any kind of due diligence. most firms websites will either not list staff attorney bios or prominently display that u are a staff attorney.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23274637)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:03 PM
Author: vengeful vivacious lodge azn

I know a guy who did this for like 7 years at a big firm. He was a master of avoiding work, and seemed to basically work 9-5:30. Then he landed an in-house job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272803)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:08 PM
Author: spectacular frozen garrison

This is a better outcome than some real associates get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272845)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:12 PM
Author: Puce Stimulating Mad-dog Skullcap Orchestra Pit

Cr. How did he cop in-house? Is he a Persian bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272865)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:18 PM
Author: vengeful vivacious lodge azn

Lol, he actually was. You know him? I don't how he got it. He basically managed documents for one company in a giant litigation for like 7 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272898)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:37 PM
Author: Puce Stimulating Mad-dog Skullcap Orchestra Pit

Lol. I was just kidding, alluding to Diesel copping an in-house jerb from his Persian connections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272972)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:29 PM
Author: Primrose university party of the first part

In nyc they start at six figures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23272943)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 2:53 PM
Author: Gay awkward marketing idea

nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23273025)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 3:32 PM
Author: learning disabled chad

I am one of these at lower v100. They actually make associates out of the staff attorneys but I suspect it's not going to happen for me. The pay is good--45/hr + time and a half--but a recruiter told me that is absolute top of the market so there's really not much hope of ever doing much better. Unless I can becum a senior staff attorney I guess. The downsides mentioned above are all true and I know that I'm basically mortgaging my career for a few pay days now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23273203)



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Date: May 26th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: sepia boyish native telephone

Lol, there's no limit to what you can becum bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2266055&forum_id=2#23274604)