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ND+ivy league status = Cornell?
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:54 PM Author: obsidian tattoo tatbtcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467428) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:58 PM Author: jet fighting resort Probably. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467440) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:00 PM Author: swollen dead public bath other than ND being a lot more fun and having actual school pride outside of "being an ivy"... sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467451) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:01 PM Author: obsidian tattoo perhaps the more formal equation would be: ND - D1 athletics - catholocism +ivy status + 150 additional miles to nearest city = cornell? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467454) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:03 PM Author: Mischievous big messiness Cornell has D-1 athletics... just 1-AA football, and shitty ivy 1 everything else (except lax/crew which the ivy league is good in) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467464) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:05 PM Author: trip crystalline patrolman immigrant Undergrad, yes. But overall, no. ND has doesn't have any notable graduate schools except maybe Theology and Philosophy. The law school is TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467473) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:06 PM Author: obsidian tattoo I was refering to law schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467482) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:12 PM Author: Supple Copper Set Toaster ND + 2pts to LSAT median + .2 to GPA median - catholocism + good NY job prospects + Ivy Status = Cornell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467512) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:18 PM Author: Underhanded Trailer Park that's quite a difference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467540) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:20 PM Author: Supple Copper Set Toaster by the way, congrats on having the charges dropped! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467550) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:10 PM Author: Underhanded Trailer Park undergrad not quite and overall not even close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467502) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:12 PM Author: swollen dead public bath disagree. of course cornell places well, but not *that* much better than ND. and ND is a far better place to attend school, whereas ithaca is a dump on a campus full of HYP rejects (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467509) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:17 PM Author: Underhanded Trailer Park you could say the same about dartmouth or brown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467537) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:12 PM Author: swollen dead public bath cornell is much worse than dartmouth or brown. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467839) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:20 PM Author: trip crystalline patrolman immigrant I agree with you dood. ND is a much better place to attend undergrad than a lower Ivy. Career prospects out of ND undergrad should be pretty good due to the B-school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467551) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:23 PM Author: Underhanded Trailer Park nd's b-school sucks dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467566) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:25 PM Author: trip crystalline patrolman immigrant Not according to Business Week. It's 3rd, 11 spots above Cornell.
http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06rankings/ |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:28 PM Author: Underhanded Trailer Park i was talking about grad schools.
that said, having an undergraduate b-school is inherently ttt. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:56 PM Author: pontificating multi-colored field dysfunction Subject: Would you say the same about MIT or Penn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467741) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:02 PM Author: Underhanded Trailer Park of course I would (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467787) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:07 PM Author: pontificating multi-colored field dysfunction Subject: Few people would agree with you that MIT is TTT. I am not predisposed to over-ranking technical schools, but, in my opinion, MIT is one of the finest educational institutions in the world, and ditto for Penn. I disagree with you on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467816) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:04 PM Author: pontificating multi-colored field dysfunction Subject: Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, and Penn all have far superior law school placement at HYS, the gateway to the uber prestigious law jobs. Brown's placement at the top medical schools is so far above Notre Dame(top 5 in the nation)there really isn't much else to say. The last comprehensive attempt to evaluate collegiate prestige, based on a 2000 data set, showed Brown as being just below HYPS, and all the Ivies as being vastly more competitive in the common admit battles than Notre Dame. Notre Dame is a good school, but every single ivy blows it away.
I revisited my research and stand corrected. The Revealed Preferences rankings were as follows, comparing the Ivies to Notre Dame. 1)Harvard 2)Yale 5)Princeton 6)Brown 7)Columbia 9)Dartmouth 11)Penn 12)Notre Dame 14)Cornell. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:15 PM Author: swollen dead public bath my comment was more that, if you take the *same* student and put him at Notre Dame for 4 yrs versus putting him in upstate NY, 4 hrs away from civilization, for 4 years, i expect the ND kids to be happier and achieve more of their goals. why? they didnt waste 4 yrs chasing a piece of paper bc the school was (barely) an ivy league school. ND has a great atmosphere. Cornell is a dump. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467855) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:21 PM Author: pontificating multi-colored field dysfunction Subject: Paulie, my revised comment above supports your position. Every Ivy wins the common admit battle with Notre Dame "except" Cornell. However, your characterization of Ithaca as a dump is a bit extreme. Some love it there, even the cold winters. To each his or her own. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467887) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:24 PM Author: swollen dead public bath at my HS (which wasnt even that prestigious but did have a high % of asians), only the loser kids who had "a few AP classes" and were 1400ish scorers went to Cornell.
kids who were actually winners went to every other ivy (including Penn, which was like the local safety school bc i was in Philly), MIT, ND, Georgetown, etc.
it was common to apply to every Ivy *except* Cornell (i myself did this) and make your safety school a place that would give a free ride (usually a large public)
honestly, i think its a good stategy. no one really *wants* to go to Cornell. its just a place to get a piece of paper and have a good shot at grad school. then again, so is any other Top 25 UG school. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:22 PM Author: pontificating multi-colored field dysfunction Subject: Paulie, my revised comment above supports your position. Every Ivy wins the common admit battle with Notre Dame "except" Cornell. However, your characterization of Ithaca as a dump is a bit extreme. Some love it there, even the cold winters. To each his or her own. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=568002&forum_id=2#7467889) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:25 PM Author: swollen dead public bath 3=MIT 4=Stanford 8=Caltech? |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:47 PM Author: Smoky hall rigor You seriously think South Bend, Indiana is a better city than Ithaca?
Are you a SLU or Marquette student who just can't get over the rejection letter from ND so you troll like mad for them? |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:57 PM Author: swollen dead public bath No, but I've been to South Bend (went for the ND-Stanford game this Fall) and its much better. The campus and atmosphere at ND are head and shoulders above Cornell. Also, nationwide, ND has lay prestige whereas Cornell does not.
As the other guy posted, ND actually BEATS Cornell head-to-head in battles for cross-admitted UG students.
Apparently I'm not the only one that thinks Ithaca is TTT.
BTW, South Bend is about an hour from Chicago. It's closer to civilization than Ithaca... HTH |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 4:03 PM Author: Smoky hall rigor If by "about an hour," you mean "about 2 hours," then sure.
And you're basing this on a football game?
I can't speak for the UGs, but I find the original post analogous to saying "UIUC + big city + 500 students = Georgetown"
I don't really think ND and Cornell's law schools are very comparable. |