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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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coiffed pistol dilemma
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
high-end geriatric library nowag
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
high-end geriatric library nowag
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Red Kitchen
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
swollen emerald ladyboy personal credit line
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Anal Tanning Salon Dragon
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
turquoise becky
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
turquoise becky
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
turquoise becky
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
aromatic haunted graveyard
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Wonderful step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Glittery theater stage partner
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
coiffed pistol dilemma
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Electric alcoholic station
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Hyperactive stain
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Mewling newt
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
coiffed pistol dilemma
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
yapping yarmulke
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/26/25
...
mind-boggling federal trailer park
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
black odious gas station jew
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Rose boltzmann school cafeteria
  06/26/25
...
cracking nubile background story
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
180 Bronze Juggernaut
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
talking boyish regret orchestra pit
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Swashbuckling Unholy Scourge Upon The Earth Piazza
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
talking boyish regret orchestra pit
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Anal Tanning Salon Dragon
  06/27/25
...
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Twinkling prole
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
talking boyish regret orchestra pit
  06/27/25
...
Racy chest-beating cumskin generalized bond
  06/27/25
...
Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Swashbuckling Unholy Scourge Upon The Earth Piazza
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Anal Tanning Salon Dragon
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Insane cuckold
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
black odious gas station jew
  06/27/25
...
dashing gaping pozpig
  06/27/25
...
free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: coiffed pistol dilemma

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: high-end geriatric library nowag

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: high-end geriatric library nowag

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Red Kitchen

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: swollen emerald ladyboy personal credit line

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Anal Tanning Salon Dragon

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: turquoise becky

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: turquoise becky

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: turquoise becky

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: aromatic haunted graveyard

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Wonderful step-uncle's house

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Glittery theater stage partner

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: coiffed pistol dilemma

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Electric alcoholic station

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Hyperactive stain

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Mewling newt

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: coiffed pistol dilemma

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: yapping yarmulke

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: mind-boggling federal trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: black odious gas station jew

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Rose boltzmann school cafeteria

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: cracking nubile background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: 180 Bronze Juggernaut

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: talking boyish regret orchestra pit

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Unholy Scourge Upon The Earth Piazza

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: talking boyish regret orchestra pit

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Anal Tanning Salon Dragon

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Twinkling prole

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: talking boyish regret orchestra pit

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Racy chest-beating cumskin generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Grizzly Concupiscible Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Unholy Scourge Upon The Earth Piazza

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Anal Tanning Salon Dragon

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Insane cuckold

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: black odious gas station jew

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: dashing gaping pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: free-loading garnet mental disorder rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)