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FUCK the developer I hired quit right before starting

Said he got a better offer from somewhere else and that was ...
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/23/18
This is why I'm actually pro-H1B visas for devs/eingineer's ...
Saffron main people piazza
  10/24/18
KIKE
up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate
  10/24/18
I'm one of the most White Nationalist ones here.
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  10/24/18
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up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate
  10/24/18
To be clear, we should prioritize WHITE programmers and the ...
Saffron main people piazza
  10/24/18
lmfao you know how much salary you gotta pay a european to g...
zippy kitty cat regret
  10/24/18
lots of young europeans are happy to work in the USA because...
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claret friendly grandma
  10/24/18
what language
razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut
  10/23/18
all of them, dude was a masterman
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
good for him. skilled labor should always have the leverage ...
razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut
  10/24/18
gibberish. my business is superior and we could have negotia...
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
He left your business without communicating because it would...
Vigorous University
  10/24/18
why is everyone so shitty to me on this one? I'm from the sa...
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
(entitled boomer)
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I'm younger than the dev
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(30 year old boomer)
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Lol Eduardo was worthless
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  10/24/18
are you knave?
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  10/24/18
All bosses, managers and landlords deserve to die.
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180 Raise your wages you greedy kike
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how much were you paying?
cracking base doctorate
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above market for this city, then he got an offer to work rem...
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
Did you offer to match + let him work remote?
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I had 24 hours to make a new offer i.e. negotiate with both ...
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The only crime I've committed is trying to hire a dev at wel...
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What market? Are you flame? A literal retard could get a 130...
flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter
  10/24/18
Just tell us what the salary you were offering was. Why are ...
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claret friendly grandma
  10/24/18
You stink of failure and resentment.
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Unlike you I don't deceive or fabricate. I was generous and ...
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claret friendly grandma
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Retarded, uncharitable, resentment-filled.
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claret friendly grandma
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only in the bay area is 130k “junior level”.
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yeah, it isn’t. but ok. i suppose people on this ...
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claret friendly grandma
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fair point. carry on.
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What's your problem? I already said initial AGREEMENT was ab...
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claret friendly grandma
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Insanely liw for the skill level, unless you’re in Uta...
flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter
  10/24/18
TCTP is a developer?
Vigorous University
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what is the market rate for a developer these days?
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what's the market rate of someone in nyc with 3 years of exp...
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claret friendly grandma
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ljl at nerds
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100-120k median
flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter
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Accepting counter offer is a rookie move
flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter
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pay more you cheap faggot
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lol I'm a coder irl who makes 100s of gs a year, sorry bro b...
nighttime unhinged pit
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100gs wow thats a lot of 💰
flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter
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100s of gs correction
nighttime unhinged pit
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Conjoined triangles of success you might say.
Spectacular Sienna Area Mother
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Thanks for a reasonable reply. I honestly don't know what de...
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
would you have let him work 100% remote?
up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate
  10/24/18
He lives ~8mins from the office; never once did he suggest w...
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
If you gave him an opportunity to counter you did what you c...
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Maybe you should be a professional and have some idea what y...
flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter
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At the end of the day I fully own all my successes and failu...
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  10/24/18
"was met by mob of angry devs.” lol welcome t...
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your head belongs on a spike
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omg this chip on your shoulder is why ppl don't want to work...
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  10/24/18
"your head on a spike (multiple blank bumps)" &...
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claret friendly grandma
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no offense but it's the way you explain things
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lol stfu faggot every dumb nigger on this website is totally...
carnelian station
  10/24/18
yeah, I guess you could say that about almost anyone
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Must have some ego if you think it could have all been achie...
nighttime unhinged pit
  10/24/18
You have to pay a premium at shitty low productivity busines...
Spectacular Sienna Area Mother
  10/24/18
Another thing to consider is that the other offer might have...
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  10/24/18
Longest alzabo post I’ve ever seen
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claret friendly grandma
  10/24/18
explains a lot
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Why is everyone so mad at OP
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  10/24/18
OP is female
flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter
  10/24/18
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&mc=88&am...
up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate
  10/24/18
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What about me and Kenny we are hiring staff now
Salmon police squad legend
  10/24/18
devs now think your head belongs on a spike, not flame
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
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up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate
  10/24/18
sorry chandler :(
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  10/24/18
Hook it up
Spectacular Sienna Area Mother
  10/24/18
devs
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  10/24/18
i'm available. 300K to start, tho
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Morning in America outted as 13 year old girl itt
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lmao OP just got Ted Cruz tp'd
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  10/24/18
OP got gaped. Dumb boomer doesn’t realize how valued ...
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  10/24/18
This is the risk you take when you pay shit wages. Next tim...
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  10/24/18
I have never seen anything more fucking Boomer than this thr...
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  10/24/18
if a remote job pays more, you're not paying enough. Rem...
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This thread perfectly encapsulates a particularly revolting ...
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Stop following me around, faggot, you're wrong about literal...
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claret friendly grandma
  10/24/18
It isn't just personal. You're an owner. You're capital. ...
up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate
  10/24/18
Lol you socialist fuck
Excitant crystalline sweet tailpipe sound barrier
  10/24/18
You got good advice here. Stop paying shit wages and trying...
adventurous stubborn state messiness
  10/24/18
I already said I followed the local market rate for devs and...
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
>How could I possibly exploit a salaried worker in 2018 w...
up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate
  10/24/18
It seems like you don’t understand how labor markets w...
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  10/24/18
welcome to stormfront
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  10/24/18
most people here are extremely ground down and resentful of ...
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"good help is hard to find" yeah if you want to...
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He was so cheap that the guy was immediately looking for oth...
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  10/24/18
seems pretty clear from the OP's posts that the pay and ince...
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  10/24/18
All bosses are exploitative kikes. Business size does not m...
up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate
  10/24/18
lol, pretty hot take there, Mao Zedong
floppy ultramarine gas station really tough guy
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250k isnt "decent money" (xo poast
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  10/24/18
Of course OP thinks paying shit wages are decent. It’...
adventurous stubborn state messiness
  10/24/18
You're a true idiot.
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
Keep insulting people and not learning from your mistakes. ...
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Thanks brother
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
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many, many of us are solo/small law/eat what we kill lawyers...
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gibberish
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
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emotional. ive hired and fired employees, and I've had th...
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(Butt-hurt boomer)
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  10/24/18
Thank you, friend
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
OP, if everything ITT is accepted at face value, then (1) so...
Bateful harsh incel therapy
  10/24/18
Something might be off = head on a spike, kike? I don't thin...
Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre
  10/24/18
a 'good' dev makes > 200K easily, really good ones make m...
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> Something might be off = head on a spike, kike? ever...
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I think the responses ITT are reflective of general american...
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So, OP are you ok? Are you ok, OP? You've been hit by You...
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cr, plus xo loves a dogpile against a clueless, tonedeaf OP
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Low RC? Where did I say or even suggest that?
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I might’ve given you the benefit of the doubt but your...
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Calling you an idiot isn't an insult, it's a fact. The facts...
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you're flame we get it
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Can you imagine working for this guy? Even if OP wasnt payi...
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I was fucked out of MY COMMISSION once b/c of shitheads like...
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Hedge fund quant role for a math phd
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Date: October 23rd, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Said he got a better offer from somewhere else and that was that. I was like whoa whoa let's talk about this, he barely entertained a counter-offer which he then quickly declined. Fuck this dev market demand/supply imbalance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083106)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Saffron main people piazza

This is why I'm actually pro-H1B visas for devs/eingineer's despite being anti-immigration overall.

Really do need to be importing these faggots at the moment. And no there's not some hidden group of capeable White programmers scattered throughout the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085243)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

KIKE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085271)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:27 PM
Author: Saffron main people piazza

I'm one of the most White Nationalist ones here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085748)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/425/077/74b.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085776)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: Saffron main people piazza

To be clear, we should prioritize WHITE programmers and the visas should offer no chance at permanent residency.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085826)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: zippy kitty cat regret

lmfao you know how much salary you gotta pay a european to get them to move to the US knowing it's temporary when they can be fucking unionized with pension and 5+ weeks vacation in a first world country if they stay where they are?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086326)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Bateful harsh incel therapy

lots of young europeans are happy to work in the USA because getting a job as a young is tough. it's true that recruiting euros over 40 is very difficult

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086428)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085273)



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Date: October 23rd, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut

what language

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083110)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:02 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

all of them, dude was a masterman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083125)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:03 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut

good for him. skilled labor should always have the leverage over capital

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083128)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

gibberish. my business is superior and we could have negotiated a better deal for him but he couldn't communicate his way out of a paper bag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083315)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:43 AM
Author: Vigorous University

He left your business without communicating because it would have been a waste of his valuable time. He was probably planning on jumping ship anyways. Lol. Employers these days are fukt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083335)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:49 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

why is everyone so shitty to me on this one? I'm from the same social class as the guy but worked like an animal and took shrewd risks and now I'm in a position to grow a substantial business. I offered him a very favorable contract which he gladly signed but reneged when a rogue offer came in from several states away that I never saw coming. This makes me the greedy capitalist? What is this board, soviet Russia?

Why do you all act like he is owed so much money just because there's a shortage of devs in North America? that's not reflective of dev quality, it's reflective of ENTREPRENEUR quality, kicking ass and creating great businesses by the thousands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083349)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:49 AM
Author: cracking base doctorate

(entitled boomer)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083350)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:50 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

I'm younger than the dev

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083352)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:31 AM
Author: jet 180 factory reset button house

(30 year old boomer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083610)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:37 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083632)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:02 AM
Author: Sick locus windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083698)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:33 AM
Author: carnelian station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084042)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:38 AM
Author: Galvanic idiot orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084050)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: Aromatic impertinent mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085568)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:19 PM
Author: White odious church boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085682)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: Massive Tantric Field Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086069)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Appetizing bespoke pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086352)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Vigorous University



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086372)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:18 PM
Author: Stirring cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087434)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:28 PM
Author: electric fear-inspiring old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087521)



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Date: November 2nd, 2018 7:27 PM
Author: Cerebral bat shit crazy selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37147433)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:51 AM
Author: Vigorous University



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083355)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:31 AM
Author: jet 180 factory reset button house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083609)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:55 AM
Author: Spectacular Sienna Area Mother

Lol Eduardo was worthless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083366)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:58 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut

are you knave?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083501)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:24 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

All bosses, managers and landlords deserve to die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083577)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:31 AM
Author: jet 180 factory reset button house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083606)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:46 AM
Author: Titillating ebony lodge son of senegal

Not great logic. And entrepreneurship is declining so that doesn't make sense as the cause. If there is any unnatural cause of the dev shortage it's probably the massive amounts of venture capital coming in and pushing up salaries.

If he sucked or you pivoted your biz, you'd fire him. If he gets a better offer he leaves. That's capitalism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084063)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: zippy kitty cat regret

"why is everyone so shitty to me on this one?"

why are a bunch of wage slaves being hostile to an owner?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086339)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:18 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

mfcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083558)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: jet-lagged misanthropic roommate location

180

Raise your wages you greedy kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083148)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083149)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:43 AM
Author: carnelian station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083332)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: black talented round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083337)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: Translucent shivering lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083396)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:13 AM
Author: Costumed thriller native philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083407)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:58 AM
Author: exhilarant crimson lay becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083502)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:02 AM
Author: hot affirmative action generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083515)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:05 AM
Author: aqua point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083519)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:16 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083552)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:42 AM
Author: Frozen Maroon Dragon Coldplay Fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084057)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:51 AM
Author: Heady Indian Lodge Death Wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084072)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085207)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: cracking base doctorate

how much were you paying?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083154)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

above market for this city, then he got an offer to work remote from a market that pays more and I offered to match but nothing doing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083318)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:14 AM
Author: Costumed thriller native philosopher-king

Did you offer to match + let him work remote?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083410)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:27 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083439)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:32 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

I had 24 hours to make a new offer i.e. negotiate with both myself and a phantom offer, and rather than tell me directly what would make the position a win I had to badger him for details, which he would barely share because he's a coder with no negotiation skills and thinks I can read his mind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083445)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:35 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083451)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:37 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

The only crime I've committed is trying to hire a dev at well above market. Go cry in your code commie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083458)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:05 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

What market? Are you flame? A literal retard could get a 130k coding job in this environment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083520)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:38 AM
Author: Costumed thriller native philosopher-king

Just tell us what the salary you were offering was. Why are you trying to conceal that from the bort?

Sounds like you're cheap as fuck and made him a shit offer (but at your INCREDIBLE COMPANY, so of course he should take a MASSIVE DISCOUNT) and now you're whining about it for some reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083464)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083471)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:42 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

You stink of failure and resentment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083474)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:44 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083480)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:55 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Unlike you I don't deceive or fabricate. I was generous and open at every stage, and exceeded every other offer dev received during his job search. We reached an agreement that the dev was highly enthusiastic about. It included generous performance incentives over and above the generous base salary, incentives which I later learned he valued at zero and didn't tell me because that's devs for you. Then he received a fluke offer at the eleventh hour with higher base and no performance bonuses, which he incorrectly deemed superior. I had one day to put together a counter-offer which I did on limited information, negotiating against both myself and a mystery offer. Dev declined with an explanation that the money was great but upon further reflection the risk in the business was too high, which again is incorrect and could have been discussed had dev been more communicative. Okay, stupid? Thanks for your retarded, uncharitable resentment-filled assumptions in this thread.

In any case, thanks to you I have been caught up to speed on just how bitter and resentful some devs are toward their more successful entrepreneur superiors. Gracias.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083499)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:00 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083508)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:17 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Retarded, uncharitable, resentment-filled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083553)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:19 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083560)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:24 AM
Author: insecure underhanded heaven

only in the bay area is 130k “junior level”.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083574)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:24 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083576)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:28 AM
Author: insecure underhanded heaven

yeah, it isn’t. but ok.

i suppose people on this site should stick to the only thing they know marginally well, law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083589)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083611)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: insecure underhanded heaven

fair point. carry on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083615)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

What's your problem? I already said initial AGREEMENT was above market for this area and I matched the out of state offer. Final offer was 130k, okay idiot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083473)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:42 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083475)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:03 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

Insanely liw for the skill level, unless you’re in Utah. It’s sounds like you’re a new yorker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083516)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:42 AM
Author: Vigorous University

TCTP is a developer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083325)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:20 AM
Author: learning disabled brass hairy legs spot

what is the market rate for a developer these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083424)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:28 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083440)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:33 AM
Author: learning disabled brass hairy legs spot

what's the market rate of someone in nyc with 3 years of experience?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083449)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:35 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083455)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:43 AM
Author: learning disabled brass hairy legs spot

ljl at nerds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083477)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:01 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

100-120k median

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083510)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:00 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

Accepting counter offer is a rookie move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083507)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:01 AM
Author: hot affirmative action generalized bond

pay more you cheap faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083511)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:18 AM
Author: nighttime unhinged pit

lol I'm a coder irl who makes 100s of gs a year, sorry bro but you probably didn't pay him what he is actually worth.

People don't realize that coders are growing more POWERFUL by the day, able to create and code systems that replace dozens, even hundreds of workers, all by themselves. Software skills don't scale linearly but GEOMETRICALLY in business.

Companies that kill it usually have two alpha coder & sales masterman run the company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083556)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:21 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

100gs wow thats a lot of 💰

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083564)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:22 AM
Author: nighttime unhinged pit

100s of gs correction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083568)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:22 AM
Author: Spectacular Sienna Area Mother

Conjoined triangles of success you might say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083566)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:22 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Thanks for a reasonable reply. I honestly don't know what devs are worth as I've never hired one and my business is not a software company, but we could benefit from one, so I found out the local market rate for a senior and added ~20%. I wish the dev negotiated with me sooner and laid all the facts out so we could create a win-win, but I think negotiating makes him extremely uncomfortable so I never got an honest chance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083569)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:23 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

would you have let him work 100% remote?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083572)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:25 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

He lives ~8mins from the office; never once did he suggest working from anywhere but the office, but I told him I'm more concerned with him getting the work done from anywhere than putting in facetime. I did suggest that we would have to be in the office a lot the first month. I'm flexible on stuff like that if someone delivers the goods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083580)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:27 AM
Author: Salmon police squad legend

If you gave him an opportunity to counter you did what you could

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083586)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:24 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083575)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:25 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

Maybe you should be a professional and have some idea what you’re doing? You’re blaming him for your ignorance. Of course he didn’t want to work with you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083578)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:27 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

At the end of the day I fully own all my successes and failures, including this one, that's why I'm a multi-millionaire. I wanted to blow off steam over having to restart the dev search when the dev and I could both have achieved a win through better communication, but was met by a mob of angry devs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083588)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:28 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

"was met by mob of angry devs.”

lol welcome to the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083592)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:29 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083598)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut

your head belongs on a spike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083601)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083604)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:31 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083607)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:56 AM
Author: hot affirmative action generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083682)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:01 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

This in a nutshell is what is so terrible about human existence. I grew up lower-middle class, with the same obstacles as the rest of the unwashed masses, watching elites inherit money and leverage nepotism to fund in one week what my parents worked for their entire lives.

And through extremely hard work, creativity, risk-taking and numerous setbacks along the way, I achieve a measure of success that one might call upper-middle class... a victory for the masses, a hard-luck case turned good! Right? Wrong. The other envy-filled proles quickly try to smash you back into the crab bucket for daring to employ one of them. Not employ them at a low wage, mind you... simply employing them at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083695)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:06 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083707)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: nighttime unhinged pit

omg this chip on your shoulder is why ppl don't want to work for you



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085348)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

"your head on a spike (multiple blank bumps)"

"OMG chip on your shoulder geeeeez!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085401)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085418)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: nighttime unhinged pit

no offense but it's the way you explain things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085441)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: carnelian station

lol stfu faggot every dumb nigger on this website is totally self made and grew up "prole" or "lower middle class" or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37089702)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:58 PM
Author: Flesh disgusting headpube prole

yeah, I guess you could say that about almost anyone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37089825)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:33 AM
Author: nighttime unhinged pit

Must have some ego if you think it could have all been achieved through communication, shit is about building shit not how you convince them. You think an engineer needs to be sold on something? They already know the tech inside and out and if you are full of shit.

Also for the record lots of devs are multi millionaires, what makes you think you are so special? You don't think people or especially engineers don't have to own their successes and failures too? Whats your chip on your shoulder about?

I know devs who salary start in the millions, you guys have no idea how lucrative its gonna be for them in the decades to come. Shit is just getting started.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083621)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:29 AM
Author: Spectacular Sienna Area Mother

You have to pay a premium at shitty low productivity business for a single developer since stock options will not be promising and their progress will be retarded compared to him being at software company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083597)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:28 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

Another thing to consider is that the other offer might have just been more interesting and had better future career prospects. Other things relatively equal, developers will take a tech company over a non-tech company every time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083590)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:29 AM
Author: Salmon police squad legend

Longest alzabo post I’ve ever seen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083600)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083605)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: jet 180 factory reset button house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083614)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:33 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083618)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:33 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083619)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:10 AM
Author: Sick locus windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083710)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:38 AM
Author: maniacal useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084048)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:11 PM
Author: Massive Tantric Field Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086093)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: jet 180 factory reset button house

dont wait for someone to threaten to jump ship to pay them what they are worth you greedy piece of shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083613)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:34 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083622)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:35 AM
Author: jet 180 factory reset button house

explains a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083623)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:35 AM
Author: Salmon police squad legend

Why is everyone so mad at OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083625)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:37 AM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

OP is female

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083630)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:38 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&mc=88&forum_id=2#37083577

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083633)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:38 AM
Author: jet 180 factory reset button house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083637)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:38 AM
Author: Salmon police squad legend

What about me and Kenny we are hiring staff now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083638)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:42 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

devs now think your head belongs on a spike, not flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083647)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:43 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083657)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:43 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

sorry chandler :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083658)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:43 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083654)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:45 AM
Author: Spectacular Sienna Area Mother

Hook it up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083664)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:38 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

devs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083635)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:42 AM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083650)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:02 AM
Author: topaz provocative legal warrant

i'm available. 300K to start, tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083697)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 7:17 AM
Author: Excitant crystalline sweet tailpipe sound barrier

Morning in America outted as 13 year old girl itt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083906)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:42 AM
Author: Galvanic idiot orchestra pit

lmao OP just got Ted Cruz tp'd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084058)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:48 AM
Author: Frozen Maroon Dragon Coldplay Fan

OP got gaped. Dumb boomer doesn’t realize how valued good coders are these days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084067)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:51 AM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

This is the risk you take when you pay shit wages. Next time, pay a good wage and your hire won’t be looking for new work before even starting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084073)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 9:16 AM
Author: arousing library

I have never seen anything more fucking Boomer than this thread. MUH BOOTSTRAPS!!! was just icing on the cake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084143)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 9:19 AM
Author: hyperventilating metal step-uncle's house

if a remote job pays more, you're not paying enough.

Remote jobs always pay less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37084155)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: nighttime unhinged pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085341)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

This thread perfectly encapsulates a particularly revolting aspect of XO, and really the internet as a whole. Having almost no info about my location, the nature of my business, the developer or the other offer, or about me personally, and having never hired an employee themselves, much less paid anyone six figures of their own money for work, a pack of mean-spirited, mentally-ill jackals descend to shriek and wish death. Not a single one who would actually say any of this to one's face, but in an internet mob they gain their pathetic spine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085445)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085463)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Stop following me around, faggot, you're wrong about literally everything and a pissant little bitch to boot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085476)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085483)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:52 PM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

It isn't just personal. You're an owner. You're capital. You're seeking to exploit labor. You belong in an oven.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085473)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Excitant crystalline sweet tailpipe sound barrier

Lol you socialist fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085820)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

You got good advice here. Stop paying shit wages and trying to exploit people. It’ll help your business and might just prevent you from going to hell. Win win situation. Learn from your mistake and move on. It’s not rocket science.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085503)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

I already said I followed the local market rate for devs and even beat it substantially. How in the world is that shit wages? Do you have no idea how labor markets work? If I'm exploitive then every single tech employer in this region is moreso.

We had an enthusiastic agreement until he got another offer at the last minute through special contacts from a VC out-of-state. The guy now makes more than just about any other dev in town, and a lot more than he ever used to make. It's a one-off situation, and your glib "just pay them more" aids little. Exploiting people?? What are you, Karl Marx? How could I possibly exploit a salaried worker in 2018 who entertained multiple offers and (at least initially) chose mine over others?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085638)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:18 PM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

>How could I possibly exploit a salaried worker in 2018 who entertained multiple offers and (at least initially) chose mine over others?

Are you planning on paying him less than the value that he brings to the company?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085677)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

It seems like you don’t understand how labor markets work. You offered a shit wage and got predicably burned soon after.

Either learn from it and pay up next time or get burned again. Your call.

Maybe if you spent less time writing long unhinged lengthy screeds on XO you might have learned what a reasonable wage for the position is. Just a thought.

HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085874)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:57 PM
Author: Rusted trailer park stain

welcome to stormfront

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085512)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: floppy ultramarine gas station really tough guy

most people here are extremely ground down and resentful of any sort of vertical hierarchy because of their experience under shitty jew biglaw bosses. at least this is my charitable explanation of their constant flaming of any and all employee-employer relationships and vertical hierarchy

i agree that this thread was extremely unhinged, and surprisingly so. most of the people here would be horrible bosses themselves and are projecting that on you and every other hypothetical boss out there. running your own business is the hardest job there is, and you sound like you do a decent job of it and treat your employees fairly. good help is hard to find in the current year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085521)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: jet 180 factory reset button house

"good help is hard to find"

yeah if you want to pay half the going rate for talent it sure is hard to find

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085544)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

He was so cheap that the guy was immediately looking for other work before even starting.

When you pay shit wages, you’ll always be the backup and the employee will constantly be looking for other work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085572)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: floppy ultramarine gas station really tough guy

seems pretty clear from the OP's posts that the pay and incentives he was offering were plenty sufficient, and the candidate agreed and was enthusiastic about working for him before he got an offer that he thought was better. if you scroll through this thread it's just post after post of people completely ignoring his responses and explanations and calling him "kike" and "boomer"

you guys (accurately) complain about globohomo corps taking over entire industries and having no other option but to be a slave to GC in order to make decent money as an employee, but when some small business owner tries to honestly negotiate with a potential employee *he* is somehow the exploitative kike. you guys are clueless and completely out of touch with reality. at least nominal leftists are honest about demanding gibs from the Cartoon Villain Capitalists

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085718)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate

All bosses are exploitative kikes. Business size does not matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085735)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:29 PM
Author: floppy ultramarine gas station really tough guy

lol, pretty hot take there, Mao Zedong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085760)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: Aromatic impertinent mad cow disease

250k isnt "decent money" (xo poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085736)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:40 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

Of course OP thinks paying shit wages are decent. It’s in his interest to pay crap and pocket the rest.

The proof is in the pudding. The offered comp was poor enough to only be accepted as an emergency backup while the candidate kept looking elsewhere for a decent wage.

OP can either lash out at XO like a petulant child or learn and pay a respectable wage for the position next time (or he can hire someone awful).

HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085850)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

You're a true idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085932)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

Keep insulting people and not learning from your mistakes. I’m sure you’ll hire a great dev! You seem like a real level headed small business owner!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086037)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Thanks brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085650)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:03 PM
Author: wonderful crusty indirect expression range

many, many of us are solo/small law/eat what we kill lawyers. we have to KNOW what we can bill/collect/earn.

your petulant posts in this thread sounds just like a shyster trying to hire down and out guys for the PI meat grind or healthy offices to consume for a new "practice" at a mid law firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085565)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

gibberish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085655)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: wonderful crusty indirect expression range

emotional.

ive hired and fired employees, and I've had them quit. Don't think I've ever whined about to XO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085734)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: White odious church boltzmann

(Butt-hurt boomer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085726)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:03 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Shrine

Not sure where all this animosity came from. Good luck with your company, brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085562)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Thank you, friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085658)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: Bateful harsh incel therapy

OP, if everything ITT is accepted at face value, then (1) sorry, you got burned but (2) if you're paying 20% above market, you should find someone else pretty quickly.

the static you're getting is partly XO shitheads being XO shitheads, but it's also partly ppl suspecting that there's more to the story. maybe this guy is just shitty at communication, as you said, or maybe he's a rock star, or maybe he's a total flake, but something seems "off" about the facts. maybe that's just poasters being oversensitive to potential flame or self-serving presentation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085827)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:50 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Something might be off = head on a spike, kike? I don't think so. That is pure mental illness on display.

I freely admit I have no experience hiring a dev. I operated in good faith and openness at all times. Like in most industries, a good dev is generally an employed dev, so it can take a while to recruit somebody who has adequate technical skills and also has the soft skills, personality etc. compatible with me and the opportunity, especially because this is a relatively small market. I spent several weeks working to recruit just such a dev, and of course I am disappointed that he left right before starting, costing me a lot of time and momentum. In retrospect I was almost certainly at a disadvantage compared to a tech company that speaks the language of a dev and knows what they are looking for in a position. But having said that, he initially turned down other local offers from software companies that paid less than mine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085928)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: nighttime unhinged pit

a 'good' dev makes > 200K easily, really good ones make millions.

You gotta pay if you want one of these ALPHA nerds to take your company to the next level. The top end tech talent is more productive than dozens even hundreds of people.

people don't realize that shit is just getting started with dev talent. Lol at our AI overlords styling on businesses like you don't even know yet.

Also there is a dumb stereotype in business that 'tech' is just some back office role lol no, sorry try again boomer, companies going bankrupt day by day being replaced by CTO coder mastermen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085975)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: hot affirmative action generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086833)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086058)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Bateful harsh incel therapy

> Something might be off = head on a spike, kike?

everyone under 40 has, at minimum, had their time wasted by a lowballing bullshit potential employer and had to confront boomer expectations that they'll take 1980s wages and like it. strong responses to this are appropriate because shithead employers are always trying to capture your value. if people think you're a scam employer, why would you expect them to be nice?

> But having said that, he initially turned down other local offers from software companies that paid less than mine.

you said he had a job already. why wouldn't he turn them down if he already had a better job?

you think that your job was ultimately better than the one he took. clearly he disagrees, and he's in a better position to judge than you are, even if his "soft skills" of helping you to retain him were lacking. at this point, it's cool if you're venting a little about what a pain in the ass this turned out to be. but it also sounds like you're trying to get us to lowkey agree that he was bad and you were in the right the whole time. that's probably not going to happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086403)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

"you said he had a job already. why wouldn't he turn them down if he already had a better job?"

His contract was coming to an end, so he was looking for his next position.

I don't mind if people disagree with me on substantive points, in fact I invite it. That's different than objecting to some truly deranged jackals shitting up my thread and threatening me with death.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086465)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087062)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: Frozen Maroon Dragon Coldplay Fan

I think the responses ITT are reflective of general american workers’ attitude towards their employer. So many people who do the real work (such as this skilled developer) and generate the bulk of the managerial class’ profits have been burned by that same managerial class in the past 15 years. And they wonder why their own employees treat them with disregard when the oppurtunity arises...

Employers should know this is a different game now. When labor is in demand, employers must bend over and assume the position or they will loose their golden goose



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087144)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Frozen Maroon Dragon Coldplay Fan

So, OP are you ok?

Are you ok, OP?

You've been hit by

You've been hit by

The free labor market

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087151)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut

cr, plus xo loves a dogpile against a clueless, tonedeaf OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087162)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37088799)



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Date: October 25th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37096639)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: narrow-minded supple parlour

Why are people saying OP is female or Julia?

Tone sounds like Rasqie to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37085994)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086046)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: narrow-minded supple parlour

Low RC? Where did I say or even suggest that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37086121)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

The more I read this thread the more I realize how awful OP would be to work with. The OPs toxic personality, combined with the shit wages being offered, led to the poor worker fleeing at the first opportunity to take another job. This was before our hero had even started working for OP. It looks like he really dodged a bullet here and I for one am glad for him.

Entertaining OP train wreck self pwnage thread though. Would read again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087186)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: Frozen Maroon Dragon Coldplay Fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087272)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: Vigorous University



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087277)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

You were corrected several times in this thread, and yet you keep plowing ahead with the same disingenuous assumption and conclusion. A dishonest lib if I ever saw one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087385)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

I might’ve given you the benefit of the doubt but your demeanor on this thread has convinced me that this developer made the best decision of his life.

Be a man and move on and learn from your mistakes rather than insulting any poster who disagrees with you. Perhaps your focus on posting lengthy unhinged screeds is why you lowballed so badly here.

Just a thought. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087491)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087500)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:55 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Calling you an idiot isn't an insult, it's a fact. The facts have been shown to you over and over, but since you don't have a triple-digit IQ you still insist on clinging to the absurd conclusion that I was underpaying him by offering him 20% above market. Now I'll go back into the labor market and get someone next month, after an annoying but acceptable delay, while you will never employ anyone, ever, because you are a low-IQ nobody with no entrepreneurial talent, no ability to raise or deploy capital, and no balls to lay your own money out in a business venture. Again, not an insult, a fact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087721)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

I don’t think you understand what “market” means. Hopefully you’re more savvy in other areas.

Good luck with your business. Hope you have a backup plan! I’m at least glad this developer saw the sinking ship and ran away fast.

I guess you can always insult people on XO like a petulant child when you don’t get your way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087875)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087913)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

Thanks! Luckily my backup plans are equivalent to the dreams you've given up on long ago.

Do you know how I know you're a low-IQ lib?

-filled with resentment

-low IQ

-dishonest

-fabricate an alternate reality, start believing it

-wrong about everything, but never stop spouting garbage

-project your own failures on your superiors

-vicious and mean-spirited

Textbook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087914)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw

you're flame we get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087918)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:29 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

Can you imagine working for this guy? Even if OP wasnt paying below market shit wages, the developer made the best move of his life.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087938)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

And there it is, the lib special: bait with vitriol, then plead civility. Dishonest as they come.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087955)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:32 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw

yfwgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087957)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

I think you are flame. You got me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087983)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37088948)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: Frozen Maroon Dragon Coldplay Fan

Here’s the hard truth: good developers have options. If you want one, step up your game. No one gives a shit about your “business”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087496)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:28 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness

This would seem to be a simple concept for most to understand. Merely posting this will likely drive OP into unhinged rage though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087525)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Obsidian Theatre

I think this is well understood by this point in the thread. Good luck employing your first developer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087689)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:55 PM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

Why don’t you just contact a consulting firm like thoughtbot? Too expensive? They’d be able to hold your hand like you need

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087713)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:05 PM
Author: claret friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087791)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:30 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087944)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:30 PM
Author: arousing library

you complain about how this thread turned out, but that's because of your ridiculous, preening, and utterly oblivious post here

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37083349

but sure, you're the victim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087946)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087495)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw

What's your point? Trying to get us to agree that the guy sucks?

He got a better offer and took it. THe game is the game. Welcome to capitalism faggot.

As a recruiter employers like you are impossible. YOu think you're paying "fair" wages- but you don't decide what the "fair" wages are. The market does.

And the guy clearly got a better offer and took it. Don't be mad at him.

Most employers are like post-wall women - they think they're entitled to THEIR Chads and offer them nothing, yet are pissed off that these CHADS pump and dump them for better jobs.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087885)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut

credited analogy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087893)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:22 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw

I was fucked out of MY COMMISSION once b/c of shitheads like this completely lowballing a unicorn talent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087897)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:23 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut

what industry/role

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087905)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw

Hedge fund

quant role for a math phd



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087908)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter

Sick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087924)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: arousing library

titcr. But still waiting for the OP to scream about paying 20% over "market wages" and claiming that his salary was fair.

If it was as fair as he says it was, then he should be able to find another developer easily if he's paying 20% over market wages. Hell, he could get away with 10% on the next employee, saving even more money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087929)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:29 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37087942)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: charismatic black woman

op clutching semen-stained '02 robert half salary guide, crying, losing hoap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37088846)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: flushed hyperactive potus trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37089690)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:59 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37089832)



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Date: October 24th, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar meetinghouse juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4113595&forum_id=2#37089835)



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Date: October 25th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: up-to-no-good bawdyhouse associate



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Date: October 25th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw



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Date: October 25th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: lavender scourge upon the earth bbw



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Useless mind-boggling sex offender



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Date: October 24th, 2018 6:30 PM
Author: adventurous stubborn state messiness



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Date: October 24th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: jet-lagged misanthropic roommate location



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