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What are the least prestigious BIGLAW (500+) law firms?

not talking about vault rank, but firms that are generally c...
Dashing french cruise ship hominid
  07/30/19
The Cochran Firm
Cocky hilarious voyeur skinny woman
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Dla piper
Green stain
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Among V50: Sidley, Paul Hastings, Proskauer, Baker McKenzie,...
twisted whorehouse degenerate
  07/30/19
worst 5 offenders on that list?
Dashing french cruise ship hominid
  07/30/19
no
fighting den
  07/30/19
Sidley used to be pretty prestigious - has it gone to shit? ...
white temple clown
  07/30/19
his list is not accurate
fighting den
  07/30/19
which firms should be off his list?
Dashing french cruise ship hominid
  07/30/19
I'd take Sidley, Mayer Brown, Proskauer, Goodwin, and K&...
lavender harsh hell
  07/30/19
are the economics of scale of a massive firm not there anymo...
Lemon Heady Milk Center
  07/31/19
most of the extremely massive firms have some of the worst P...
blue theatre prole
  07/31/19
I was too kind to Ropes, MoFo, and O'Melveny, and I complete...
twisted whorehouse degenerate
  07/31/19
Are you Kirkland chicago
Brilliant Patrolman
  07/30/19
reed smith
Impressive henna alpha national
  07/30/19
What a dump.
lavender harsh hell
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DLA Piper
opaque jap
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Greenberg Traurig
dun parlor
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...
blue theatre prole
  07/31/19
Kasowitz Benson Torres & no more Friedman lol
salmon resort
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The fact that no one said cadwalader made me google whether ...
salmon resort
  07/31/19
too large a category. with a few exceptions, large firms ou...
Insecure Locus Cuckoldry
  07/31/19
Dentons
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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: Dashing french cruise ship hominid

not talking about vault rank, but firms that are generally considered BIGLAW but are just crappier than you'd assume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614763)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:21 PM
Author: Cocky hilarious voyeur skinny woman

The Cochran Firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614774)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:22 PM
Author: Green stain

Dla piper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614777)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:23 PM
Author: twisted whorehouse degenerate

Among V50: Sidley, Paul Hastings, Proskauer, Baker McKenzie, DLA Piper, Mayer Brown, Morgan Lewis, Goodwin, King & Spalding, K&L Gates, Winston, Baker Botts, Perkins Coie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614782)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: Dashing french cruise ship hominid

worst 5 offenders on that list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614815)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: fighting den

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614816)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:31 PM
Author: white temple clown

Sidley used to be pretty prestigious - has it gone to shit? And doesnt Mayer Brown have one of the most credited SCOTUS practices? Seems weird to see them lumped in with K&L Gates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614820)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:32 PM
Author: fighting den

his list is not accurate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614823)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:34 PM
Author: Dashing french cruise ship hominid

which firms should be off his list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614831)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:43 PM
Author: lavender harsh hell

I'd take Sidley, Mayer Brown, Proskauer, Goodwin, and K&S off.

Paul Hastings, Morgan Lewis, Winston used to be good, but are very much in decline. Baker Botts and Perkins Coie have some strong regional practices, but aren't great overall. Baker McKenzie is strong in tax, but a shitshow. DLA Piper, K&LG = LOL.

Ropes, Mofo, O'Melveny, Hogan are on their way down. The Magic Circle firms (other than maybe Clifford Chance) have failed in the US.

Member when Shearman was V10?

Dechert blows.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614865)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:52 AM
Author: Lemon Heady Milk Center

are the economics of scale of a massive firm not there anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615051)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 1:06 AM
Author: blue theatre prole

most of the extremely massive firms have some of the worst PPP of the V100. Some of the 2000 lawyer firms have less gross revenue than 700 lawyer firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615086)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 11:21 AM
Author: twisted whorehouse degenerate

I was too kind to Ropes, MoFo, and O'Melveny, and I completely forgot about Dechert, but Hogan and Shearman routinely top M&A league tables.

I don't understand what Sidley (?), Mayer Brown (appellate lit?), Proskauer (labor and sports?), Goodwin (tech?), and K&S (?) have to offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38616248)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: Brilliant Patrolman

Are you Kirkland chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614874)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: Impressive henna alpha national

reed smith



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614795)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:43 PM
Author: lavender harsh hell

What a dump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614866)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: opaque jap

DLA Piper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614797)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: dun parlor

Greenberg Traurig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614873)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:41 AM
Author: blue theatre prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615035)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:48 AM
Author: salmon resort

Kasowitz Benson Torres & no more Friedman lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615046)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:49 AM
Author: salmon resort

The fact that no one said cadwalader made me google whether they folded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615048)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:52 AM
Author: Insecure Locus Cuckoldry

too large a category. with a few exceptions, large firms outside the v20 are crappy but may have some good practice areas or be the best in a secondary city.

tbf, some firms inside the v20 are also shitty. I have no idea how white & case is #17.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615050)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:58 AM
Author: hideous church generalized bond

Dentons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615067)