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What are the least prestigious BIGLAW (500+) law firms?

not talking about vault rank, but firms that are generally c...
rusted temple ape
  07/30/19
The Cochran Firm
Odious casino
  07/30/19
Dla piper
Big Jewess Son Of Senegal
  07/30/19
Among V50: Sidley, Paul Hastings, Proskauer, Baker McKenzie,...
plum water buffalo
  07/30/19
worst 5 offenders on that list?
rusted temple ape
  07/30/19
no
Kink-friendly lettuce
  07/30/19
Sidley used to be pretty prestigious - has it gone to shit? ...
Ruby Pervert Pozpig
  07/30/19
his list is not accurate
Kink-friendly lettuce
  07/30/19
which firms should be off his list?
rusted temple ape
  07/30/19
I'd take Sidley, Mayer Brown, Proskauer, Goodwin, and K&...
Ocher foreskin keepsake machete
  07/30/19
are the economics of scale of a massive firm not there anymo...
sable voyeur
  07/31/19
most of the extremely massive firms have some of the worst P...
nighttime walnut people who are hurt
  07/31/19
I was too kind to Ropes, MoFo, and O'Melveny, and I complete...
plum water buffalo
  07/31/19
Are you Kirkland chicago
180 stain
  07/30/19
reed smith
navy forum trust fund
  07/30/19
What a dump.
Ocher foreskin keepsake machete
  07/30/19
DLA Piper
Magenta multi-billionaire chad
  07/30/19
Greenberg Traurig
aqua alcoholic house
  07/30/19
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nighttime walnut people who are hurt
  07/31/19
Kasowitz Benson Torres & no more Friedman lol
Tantric aphrodisiac community account ratface
  07/31/19
The fact that no one said cadwalader made me google whether ...
Tantric aphrodisiac community account ratface
  07/31/19
too large a category. with a few exceptions, large firms ou...
Blue bateful factory reset button
  07/31/19
Dentons
lake digit ratio
  07/31/19


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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: rusted temple ape

not talking about vault rank, but firms that are generally considered BIGLAW but are just crappier than you'd assume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614763)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:21 PM
Author: Odious casino

The Cochran Firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614774)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:22 PM
Author: Big Jewess Son Of Senegal

Dla piper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614777)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:23 PM
Author: plum water buffalo

Among V50: Sidley, Paul Hastings, Proskauer, Baker McKenzie, DLA Piper, Mayer Brown, Morgan Lewis, Goodwin, King & Spalding, K&L Gates, Winston, Baker Botts, Perkins Coie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614782)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: rusted temple ape

worst 5 offenders on that list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614815)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: Kink-friendly lettuce

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614816)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:31 PM
Author: Ruby Pervert Pozpig

Sidley used to be pretty prestigious - has it gone to shit? And doesnt Mayer Brown have one of the most credited SCOTUS practices? Seems weird to see them lumped in with K&L Gates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614820)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:32 PM
Author: Kink-friendly lettuce

his list is not accurate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614823)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:34 PM
Author: rusted temple ape

which firms should be off his list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614831)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:43 PM
Author: Ocher foreskin keepsake machete

I'd take Sidley, Mayer Brown, Proskauer, Goodwin, and K&S off.

Paul Hastings, Morgan Lewis, Winston used to be good, but are very much in decline. Baker Botts and Perkins Coie have some strong regional practices, but aren't great overall. Baker McKenzie is strong in tax, but a shitshow. DLA Piper, K&LG = LOL.

Ropes, Mofo, O'Melveny, Hogan are on their way down. The Magic Circle firms (other than maybe Clifford Chance) have failed in the US.

Member when Shearman was V10?

Dechert blows.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614865)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:52 AM
Author: sable voyeur

are the economics of scale of a massive firm not there anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615051)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 1:06 AM
Author: nighttime walnut people who are hurt

most of the extremely massive firms have some of the worst PPP of the V100. Some of the 2000 lawyer firms have less gross revenue than 700 lawyer firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615086)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 11:21 AM
Author: plum water buffalo

I was too kind to Ropes, MoFo, and O'Melveny, and I completely forgot about Dechert, but Hogan and Shearman routinely top M&A league tables.

I don't understand what Sidley (?), Mayer Brown (appellate lit?), Proskauer (labor and sports?), Goodwin (tech?), and K&S (?) have to offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38616248)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: 180 stain

Are you Kirkland chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614874)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: navy forum trust fund

reed smith



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614795)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:43 PM
Author: Ocher foreskin keepsake machete

What a dump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614866)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: Magenta multi-billionaire chad

DLA Piper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614797)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: aqua alcoholic house

Greenberg Traurig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614873)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:41 AM
Author: nighttime walnut people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615035)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:48 AM
Author: Tantric aphrodisiac community account ratface

Kasowitz Benson Torres & no more Friedman lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615046)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:49 AM
Author: Tantric aphrodisiac community account ratface

The fact that no one said cadwalader made me google whether they folded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615048)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:52 AM
Author: Blue bateful factory reset button

too large a category. with a few exceptions, large firms outside the v20 are crappy but may have some good practice areas or be the best in a secondary city.

tbf, some firms inside the v20 are also shitty. I have no idea how white & case is #17.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615050)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:58 AM
Author: lake digit ratio

Dentons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615067)