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What are the least prestigious BIGLAW (500+) law firms?

not talking about vault rank, but firms that are generally c...
olive patrolman hall
  07/30/19
The Cochran Firm
talented coiffed main people school
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Dla piper
impertinent orchestra pit
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Among V50: Sidley, Paul Hastings, Proskauer, Baker McKenzie,...
Lilac provocative old irish cottage
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worst 5 offenders on that list?
olive patrolman hall
  07/30/19
no
out-of-control slippery feces
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Sidley used to be pretty prestigious - has it gone to shit? ...
Odious shivering locale
  07/30/19
his list is not accurate
out-of-control slippery feces
  07/30/19
which firms should be off his list?
olive patrolman hall
  07/30/19
I'd take Sidley, Mayer Brown, Proskauer, Goodwin, and K&...
flesh step-uncle's house
  07/30/19
are the economics of scale of a massive firm not there anymo...
Carnelian stead clown
  07/31/19
most of the extremely massive firms have some of the worst P...
Tan idiot
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I was too kind to Ropes, MoFo, and O'Melveny, and I complete...
Lilac provocative old irish cottage
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Are you Kirkland chicago
Startling Poppy Private Investor Lodge
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reed smith
Flickering violent sweet tailpipe
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What a dump.
flesh step-uncle's house
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DLA Piper
orange spectacular address
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Greenberg Traurig
Sadistic legal warrant
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Tan idiot
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Kasowitz Benson Torres & no more Friedman lol
Cream Hairless Sanctuary
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The fact that no one said cadwalader made me google whether ...
Cream Hairless Sanctuary
  07/31/19
too large a category. with a few exceptions, large firms ou...
Crystalline mental disorder deer antler
  07/31/19
Dentons
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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: olive patrolman hall

not talking about vault rank, but firms that are generally considered BIGLAW but are just crappier than you'd assume.

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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:21 PM
Author: talented coiffed main people school

The Cochran Firm

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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:22 PM
Author: impertinent orchestra pit

Dla piper

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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:23 PM
Author: Lilac provocative old irish cottage

Among V50: Sidley, Paul Hastings, Proskauer, Baker McKenzie, DLA Piper, Mayer Brown, Morgan Lewis, Goodwin, King & Spalding, K&L Gates, Winston, Baker Botts, Perkins Coie

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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: olive patrolman hall

worst 5 offenders on that list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614815)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: out-of-control slippery feces

no

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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:31 PM
Author: Odious shivering locale

Sidley used to be pretty prestigious - has it gone to shit? And doesnt Mayer Brown have one of the most credited SCOTUS practices? Seems weird to see them lumped in with K&L Gates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614820)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:32 PM
Author: out-of-control slippery feces

his list is not accurate

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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:34 PM
Author: olive patrolman hall

which firms should be off his list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614831)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:43 PM
Author: flesh step-uncle's house

I'd take Sidley, Mayer Brown, Proskauer, Goodwin, and K&S off.

Paul Hastings, Morgan Lewis, Winston used to be good, but are very much in decline. Baker Botts and Perkins Coie have some strong regional practices, but aren't great overall. Baker McKenzie is strong in tax, but a shitshow. DLA Piper, K&LG = LOL.

Ropes, Mofo, O'Melveny, Hogan are on their way down. The Magic Circle firms (other than maybe Clifford Chance) have failed in the US.

Member when Shearman was V10?

Dechert blows.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614865)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:52 AM
Author: Carnelian stead clown

are the economics of scale of a massive firm not there anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615051)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 1:06 AM
Author: Tan idiot

most of the extremely massive firms have some of the worst PPP of the V100. Some of the 2000 lawyer firms have less gross revenue than 700 lawyer firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615086)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 11:21 AM
Author: Lilac provocative old irish cottage

I was too kind to Ropes, MoFo, and O'Melveny, and I completely forgot about Dechert, but Hogan and Shearman routinely top M&A league tables.

I don't understand what Sidley (?), Mayer Brown (appellate lit?), Proskauer (labor and sports?), Goodwin (tech?), and K&S (?) have to offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38616248)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: Startling Poppy Private Investor Lodge

Are you Kirkland chicago

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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: Flickering violent sweet tailpipe

reed smith



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:43 PM
Author: flesh step-uncle's house

What a dump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38614866)



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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: orange spectacular address

DLA Piper

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Date: July 30th, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: Sadistic legal warrant

Greenberg Traurig

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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:41 AM
Author: Tan idiot



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:48 AM
Author: Cream Hairless Sanctuary

Kasowitz Benson Torres & no more Friedman lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615046)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:49 AM
Author: Cream Hairless Sanctuary

The fact that no one said cadwalader made me google whether they folded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615048)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:52 AM
Author: Crystalline mental disorder deer antler

too large a category. with a few exceptions, large firms outside the v20 are crappy but may have some good practice areas or be the best in a secondary city.

tbf, some firms inside the v20 are also shitty. I have no idea how white & case is #17.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615050)



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Date: July 31st, 2019 12:58 AM
Author: Kink-friendly roommate

Dentons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4313432&forum_id=2#38615067)