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Time to invest in the lottery.

Powerball is up to $340 million. Chances of winning are a...
twisted crusty hunting ground station
  10/19/05
unless someone else wins too.
Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness
  10/19/05
That always sucks. But the chances of two people winning ar...
twisted crusty hunting ground station
  10/19/05
Not low enough to risk all those millions.
learning disabled electric furnace property
  10/19/05
with the number of people participating are the chances of 2...
Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness
  10/19/05
If you get a good loan, maybe you can buy all 149 million nu...
twisted crusty hunting ground station
  10/19/05
when i was about ten, i asked my dad why people don't do thi...
Saffron Startled Space
  10/19/05
There are people who've done similar, but the ventures tend ...
Lascivious house goyim
  10/19/05
yeah, the split-pot thing is obvious. not to a ten year old,...
Saffron Startled Space
  10/19/05
taxes are a bitch
Frozen Cobalt Love Of Her Life
  10/19/05
40% or so? EV still greater than 1.
twisted crusty hunting ground station
  10/19/05
False. $340 million is the payout over 30 years. Present va...
Drunken wrinkle market
  10/19/05
"Present value is probably about $130 million." ...
twisted crusty hunting ground station
  10/19/05
what are the chances of winning the whole prize without havi...
Naked Nudist Crackhouse
  10/19/05
Isn't it 1/149,000,000^2?
twisted crusty hunting ground station
  10/19/05
No. That's the chance of one person winning 2 lotteries in ...
learning disabled electric furnace property
  10/19/05
yep. you need to replace all the people buying lottery tick...
Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness
  10/19/05
The expected number of wins is (# of tickets sold)/149,000,0...
learning disabled electric furnace property
  10/19/05
no, cause that would mean theres a 100% chance of someone wi...
Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness
  10/19/05
No it doesn't. The expected number of Heads is however many...
Drunken wrinkle market
  10/19/05
You're right.
twisted crusty hunting ground station
  10/19/05
wow...
Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness
  10/19/05
holy shit
self-centered beady-eyed masturbator
  10/19/05
No. I could calculate it for you if you knew how many peopl...
Naked Nudist Crackhouse
  10/19/05
some guys from australia did this a few years back and won a...
Frozen Cobalt Love Of Her Life
  10/19/05


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Date: October 19th, 2005 11:22 AM
Author: twisted crusty hunting ground station

Powerball is up to $340 million.

Chances of winning are are about 1 in 149,000,000

Tickets cost $1.

Expected value is quite a bit higher than 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083786)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:23 AM
Author: Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness

unless someone else wins too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083788)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:24 AM
Author: twisted crusty hunting ground station

That always sucks. But the chances of two people winning are pretty low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083796)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:25 AM
Author: learning disabled electric furnace property

Not low enough to risk all those millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083805)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:27 AM
Author: Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness

with the number of people participating are the chances of 2 people winning that much lower than the chances of one person winning?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083820)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:23 AM
Author: twisted crusty hunting ground station

If you get a good loan, maybe you can buy all 149 million numbers and assure a win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083791)





Date: October 19th, 2005 12:38 PM
Author: Saffron Startled Space

when i was about ten, i asked my dad why people don't do this.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4084341)





Date: October 19th, 2005 12:41 PM
Author: Lascivious house goyim

There are people who've done similar, but the ventures tend to be money-losers on account of taxes, split-pots, and the exponentially declining present value of money over time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4084356)





Date: October 19th, 2005 12:41 PM
Author: Saffron Startled Space

yeah, the split-pot thing is obvious. not to a ten year old, however.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4084360)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:23 AM
Author: Frozen Cobalt Love Of Her Life

taxes are a bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083792)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:24 AM
Author: twisted crusty hunting ground station

40% or so? EV still greater than 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083799)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:29 AM
Author: Drunken wrinkle market

False.

$340 million is the payout over 30 years. Present value is probably about $130 million. Minus taxes. Still a losing bet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083833)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:36 AM
Author: twisted crusty hunting ground station

"Present value is probably about $130 million."

If it's that low, you're right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083880)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:24 AM
Author: Naked Nudist Crackhouse

what are the chances of winning the whole prize without having to share though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083794)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:25 AM
Author: twisted crusty hunting ground station

Isn't it 1/149,000,000^2?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083803)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:26 AM
Author: learning disabled electric furnace property

No. That's the chance of one person winning 2 lotteries in a row.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083815)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:28 AM
Author: Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness

yep. you need to replace all the people buying lottery tickets to get the odds of sharing.

when you have as many people buying tickets as the odds of winning, there is a good chance you are going to have to split.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083828)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:29 AM
Author: learning disabled electric furnace property

The expected number of wins is (# of tickets sold)/149,000,000, yes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083836)





Date: October 19th, 2005 12:47 PM
Author: Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness

no, cause that would mean theres a 100% chance of someone winning if 150M people play, which is not the case. Everyone picks individually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4084397)





Date: October 19th, 2005 12:49 PM
Author: Drunken wrinkle market

No it doesn't.

The expected number of Heads is however many times you flip the coin/2. Does that mean there's 100% chance a heads comes up each 2 times you flip?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4084410)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:28 AM
Author: twisted crusty hunting ground station

You're right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083831)





Date: October 19th, 2005 12:39 PM
Author: Drab shivering heaven twinkling uncleanness

wow...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4084346)





Date: October 19th, 2005 12:41 PM
Author: self-centered beady-eyed masturbator

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4084354)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:32 AM
Author: Naked Nudist Crackhouse

No. I could calculate it for you if you knew how many people played. For example, if a million people played you would need to find the number of ways you could pick a million numbers out of 149 million without getting a repeat.

Edit: and then multiply that by 1/149 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083853)





Date: October 19th, 2005 11:24 AM
Author: Frozen Cobalt Love Of Her Life

some guys from australia did this a few years back and won and a bunch of people were up in arms and said it wasn't fair and that they shouldn't receive the prize. people are fucking stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=281728&forum_id=2#4083798)