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Public Consumption of Alcohol: Do you have to state that?
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:41 PM Author: Disturbing cerise deer antler pit Friend was drinking beer in a parking lot prior to a baseball game. Yes, I believe this is called...tailgating. Yes, that may be it.
Anyway, NYPD officers were being NYPD officers and decided to charge him and his buddies with a violation.
Question, does he have to state that on his law school apps? |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:42 PM Author: primrose motley menage He didn't do anything fucking stupid like plead guilty or take deferred adjudication did he? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014702) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:51 PM Author: Disturbing cerise deer antler pit He hasn't sent the form in. Really, I just told him I'd post here and get what should be his best course of action from some pretty knowledgeable guys. The "time" under which he was suppose to send it in has passed, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014819) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:42 PM Author: Jet-lagged Aqua Library depends what the app asks for, but probably (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014704) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:42 PM Author: at-the-ready foreskin yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014705) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 11:01 PM Author: Comical haunting blood rage Subject: stupid shit His real concern is w/the bar application. He will have to report the arrest, regardless of charges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14050442) |
Date: February 4th, 2010 4:53 PM Author: Copper erotic electric furnace psychic aren't open container laws like a $20 fine and citation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014834) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:55 PM Author: Disturbing cerise deer antler pit Looks as if it is a violation. Do law schools require you to report violations such as these? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014866) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:58 PM Author: Copper erotic electric furnace psychic not sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014903) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:55 PM Author: Chrome Flickering Twinkling Uncleanness yeah I'm not sure this is a crime as opposed to a violation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014871) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:56 PM Author: Disturbing cerise deer antler pit Come again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014879) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:57 PM Author: Irradiated National appreciated this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014895) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:56 PM Author: Chrome Flickering Twinkling Uncleanness I think it is a violation as opposed to a criminal offense. Are you unaware that there is a difference? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14016132) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:59 PM Author: Copper erotic electric furnace psychic i know what you mean. it's a citation as opposed to a misdemeanor or felony--like getting a speeding ticket. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014909) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 5:01 PM Author: 180 party of the first part it depends on the application, schools are specific in what they ask for. if he thinks its asking for that, he has to say yes. most apps ask only about arrests and convictions and many ask only about convictions, and some ask only about felony convictions, etc. tell him to read the application. i happened to have made a comprehensive list that breaks down the 186 aba approved law schools by how they ask this question when i was applying to ls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14014933) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:21 PM Author: mischievous lavender coffee pot corner if in doubt, disclose it. Nobody is going to care unless you're caught trying to hide it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14015797) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:36 PM Author: Sinister mad cow disease damn how much do you have to drink to get charged with that
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:48 PM Author: Supple mint legal warrant dragon the cops were probably just being dicks. if he was really drunk he would have gotten a disorderly conduct. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:51 PM Author: Sinister mad cow disease yea ive been drunk outside like a million times and cops never said anything to me
my last year of UG, CT started really being serious about open container shit too |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:54 PM Author: Mind-boggling garrison I got an open container ticket on my first beer of the night. Cop was just being a dick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14016114) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:46 PM Author: Mind-boggling garrison If this is the only thing he has to disclose, then there is no harm in disclosing it. Better to be upfront about it than have someone accusing you of trying to hide it. It's no big deal. I had a misdemeanor open container citation when I was 21 and it did not have any effect on getting into law school.
As to whether it is a misdemeanor or some other civil violation, it is more than likely a misdemeanor that you'd have to report on most law school apps. I don't know New York's alcohol laws, though, and am not going to bother looking them up.
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:47 PM Author: Cruel-hearted Bateful Bawdyhouse Why do people get so fucking worked up about this?
Hiding a trivial crime is much, much worse than revealing a trivial crime. No one gives two shits about most of this, even MJ or MIP. But you fucking fail to disclose, and that shit's like homicide. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:56 PM Author: Godawful Talented Field Mental Disorder You would be an idiot to leave this off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14016124) |
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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:46 AM Author: Disgusting Chestnut Institution Selfie This exact same thing happened to me – the exact. Hell, we might have been at the same game in the same parking lot. Mets or Yankees?
Anyway, it is a violation, NOT A CRIME. The NYPD loves giving these out because they're easy revenue and there are always people drinking in public in NYC. If he sends in the form (my suggestion) and effectively pleads guilty, it'll be sealed with no criminal record and doesn't technically need to be disclosed on most apps. HOWEVER, if the app asks about "violations of the law," then yes, he needs to write an addendum explaining the circumstances. I would suggest he write one anyway to be safe. No admissions committee outside of BYU will hold it against him.
If your friend has the patience to go to court and plead not guilty, there's a chance it'll be thrown out if he acts humble and respectful before the judge. The same disclosure rules apply, though, since most apps ask about charges, not just convictions. Hope this helps. |
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Date: February 6th, 2010 6:36 PM Author: swashbuckling forum fat ankles It is a rather sad thing when enforcement of the law is linked to the funding of the organization enforcing it. This is another example of a statutory thing like speeding tickets that should have no link to a departments funding.
In fact, it would be sweet if we could fine the cops for giving too many of these offenses out. I don't know, cut the departments budget for enforcing the "wrong crimes" I don't know I am thinking out loud. But I am sure there was a couple of rapes and robberies going on these cops should have been enforcing rather then writing this poor sap up for being drunk. Assuming he was even drunk in the first place, what a joke! And this is coming from a 2L that has never had a single drink! Nazi cops indeed! |
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Date: February 6th, 2010 1:01 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle awkward kitchen america is so fascist. i am afraid to pee. twice i peed outside after some drinking and people who saw me told me i am risking my career. if not for them i wouldve peed outside every time i had a drink. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1212399&forum_id=2#14029933) |