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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:11 PM Author: smoky bull headed school cafeteria Subject: K&E DC Summer Class Comments....
Harvard 9 Georgetown 4 GW 4 Stanford 3 Yale 2 Duke 2 Chicago 1 NYU 1 Northwestern 1 Howard 1 Boalt 1
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:13 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage GW seems to do about as well as GULC at top DC firms, with (I assume) a smaller class size. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359467) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:15 PM Author: appetizing volcanic crater market Why the edit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359487) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:17 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage To conform with xoxobook format. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359507) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:19 PM Author: appetizing volcanic crater market They need to publish that. It would be useful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359526) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:15 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater K&E's probably in the top 3 or 4 hardest offers in DC. i agree that is a surprisingly good result for GW. it probably reflects their clerkship placement, which seems stronger than the USNWR rank would suggest.
edit: based on what people have said below, i concede that it might be less selective than this. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:19 PM Author: appetizing volcanic crater market We really don't know how "well" GW is doing compared to GULC unless we know how many offers were given. Back in the days when I was a 2L, I attended several offer dinners and noticed that my school had an overwhelming number of people in attendance compared to another local school (joint offer dinners). It was like 10-to-1. However, at the end of the day, the firms ended up nearly the same number of people from each school. For my classmates, this was one of several nice options; for the other school, they were thanking god. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359520) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:20 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater this is obviously all correct. to your point, i'm surprised they made 4 *offers* at GW given the selectiveness and appellate focus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359532) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:24 PM Author: appetizing volcanic crater market Another point I just remembered: all the people from the other school were law review nerds; from my school, there were guys and gals I'm sure were cruising just about the median (no journal, and didn't end up graduating with honors). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359562) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:02 PM Author: spectacular cuckoldry temple They definitely made quite a few more than 4 offers to GW students. I got an offer there and declined it, and so did a few others I know of offhand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359858) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:29 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Well where are all the GULC people going, then? These are among the top firms in DC, so I'm not sure your logic holds.
Kirkland: GULC 4, GW 4 Wilmer: GULC 2, GW 4(!) Williams & Connolly: GULC 2, GW 1 Gibson: GULC 3, GW 3 |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:32 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater not having the covington list yet is a pretty big hole.
for K&E specifically, i'd say the peers would be Jenner, GDC, Sidley, and Mayer, and to a lesser extent Latham, OMM, and Jones Day. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:36 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Yeah, Covington #s would be nice to have. I wouldn't be surprised if they hired a lot of GULC people.
At this point, though, you'd be hard-pressed to look at this data and guess which was the better school. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:39 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater as somebody implied below, GULC probably places more in the good NYC firms than GW. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359696) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:44 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Still no excuse for getting PWN3D in your own market. Lots of Chicago students go to NYC, but we're not getting out-placed at top Chicago firms by Notre Dame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359721) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:57 PM Author: appetizing volcanic crater market http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=359417&mc=592&forum_id=2
Kirkland & Ellis (Chicago) Northwestern (13) Chicago (9)
Sidley (Chicago) Chicago (16) Northwestern (11)
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:03 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage 16 + 9 = 25 for Chicago
11 + 13 = 24 for NU
This despite NU's class size being 20% bigger.
And NU, while a TTT, is still a far better school than GW. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:05 PM Author: appetizing volcanic crater market K&E is a better firm than Sidley. They're kicking your ass!!! ;) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359886) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:08 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage You're probably right nationally, but Kirland's Chicago office isn't that much better than Sidley's, if at all. Most people who got Sidley callbacks/offers also got Kirkland callbacks/offers, and vice versa. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359916) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 3:13 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef Latham: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=359417&mc=593&forum_id=2#5093408 Northwestern 14 Chicago 6
Jenner: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=359417&mc=593&forum_id=2 Chicago 5 Northwestern 5
I think that plus skadden, mayer and winston will account for your extra 20% |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 4:04 PM Author: appetizing volcanic crater market Look at that ass kicking. ;)
(Now do you concede my point was correct?) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 4:15 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage A 25% advantage for NU, which has 20% more students, with several firms still to report. No ass kicking here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360936) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:42 PM Author: Contagious alcoholic public bath ceo "for K&E specifically, i'd say the peers would be Jenner..." You rave. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:43 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater excuse me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359716) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:45 PM Author: Contagious alcoholic public bath ceo In what fucking way is K&E a peer with Jenner DC? Jenner Dc does not recruit at either GW or GULC, and ther are no students from either in their summer class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359724) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:47 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater i was talking about firms a person could plausibly choose between. in terms of the appellate practice area, they're peers in type and quality of work. sure, Jenner has a smaller class from a smaller number of schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359742) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:50 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage I think it's pretty unlikely that someone would pick Kirkland DC over Jenner DC, unless they had very specific practice area preferences. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359764) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:52 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater i think someone might easily choose one or the other on clients/politics, for example. they have very different reputations (maybe opposite) in that regard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359781) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:55 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage You'd have to be a pretty hardcore right winger to pick Kirkland over Jenner/Williams/Wilmer/Covington (where you'd likely also have offers) based on politics. Hell, Gibson is more prestigious and has a similar right-wing rep.
And 99% of the work you'd be doing at any of those firms is apolitical anyway. Defending big corporations is defending big corporations. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:58 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater you seem to know more about K&E's quality than i do; i'd never seen Jenner as that much stronger. as to the other three firms you mentioned, i didn't put them in the mix because they're not appellate boutiques. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359829) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:51 PM Author: Contagious alcoholic public bath ceo Nobody chooses K&E DC over Jenner, and they are not near peers for the purposes of this discussion. People at GW have a 0 chance of getting a job there, while people at GULC have only the most incredibly miniscule chance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359776) |
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Date: March 18th, 2006 3:43 PM Author: beady-eyed stag film lettuce i can only speak for myself. i would happily work for k&e dc, but i wouldn't go near jenner. your opening remark just isn't so (at least, it isn't so in my case). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5367895) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:36 PM Author: orchid swashbuckling dragon "Well where are all the GULC people going, then?"
Outside DC? There are lot more options here. This post from above is dead on in my exp and from what I've heard from others:
"We really don't know how "well" GW is doing compared to GULC unless we know how many offers were given. Back in the days when I was a 2L, I attended several offer dinners and noticed that my school had an overwhelming number of people in attendance compared to another local school (joint offer dinners). It was like 10-to-1. However, at the end of the day, the firms ended up nearly the same number of people from each school. For my classmates, this was one of several nice options; for the other school, they were thanking god."
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:38 PM Author: appetizing volcanic crater market Also, keep in mind I'm not referring to GW and GULC specifically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359690) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:38 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Dude, are you freaking kidding? Georgetown places crappy in DC because its students would rather work in other cities? I've seen some trolling before, but you win the gold fucking medal.
"For my classmates, this was one of several nice options; for the other school, they were thanking god."
Yeah, I'm sure Wilmer and Williams are just one of several nice options for most GULC students. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:43 PM Author: orchid swashbuckling dragon What makes you think that a person choosing between DPW-NY and Wilmer-DC is more likely to choose Wilmer?
The point is that people at GULC are more likely to have comparable offers in markets outside DC than GW students, or to exclusively seek out markets outside DC b/c they have the option.
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:49 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage You are such a sad little troll. Every top-14 school sends people to NYC, but GULC is the only one that can't place better in its own market than a school that's barely in the top 20. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359755) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:56 PM Author: orchid swashbuckling dragon 1-You have a sample of only 4 firms (UVA isn't even rep. at K&E-DC and Wilmer-DC; I suppose GW places better than UVA in DC??) 2-Unfortunately, you're not very bright, so it's really not worth the time to try to explain things to you.
Edit:
Let me add to your table based on the SA thread:
Kirkland: GULC 4, GW 4, UVA 0
Wilmer: GULC 2, GW 4(!), UVA 0
Williams & Connolly: GULC 2, GW 1, UVA 4
Gibson: GULC 3, GW 3, UVA 1
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:58 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage I agree that we need more data, but your attempts to rationalize GULC's poor showing so far are truly pathetic. GULC isn't losing more top students to NYC than other top schools.
I'm sorry you didn't take the scholarship money at GW. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:03 PM Author: orchid swashbuckling dragon Check my edit for an update to your table.
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:04 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Uh, Georgetown admitted me in like 2 weeks. That was more than a month faster than any other school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359878) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:07 PM Author: orchid swashbuckling dragon The table: Please explain to us how much better GW is than UVA. It's 12 (GW) to 5 (UVA).
Hint: don't argue size, because GW is only about 25% bigger than UVA. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:13 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Imcomplete data? Maybe a shitload of UVA people are going to Covington this summer? Or maybe UVA is a bigger TTT than people realize?
Time will tell. But I bet the UVA students won't try to fly some chickenshit excuse about how all their top students suddenly decided they wanted to go to NYC. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:18 PM Author: orchid swashbuckling dragon Really? You might want to check the numerous threads where they often say that self selection entirely explains it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360030) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:19 PM Author: arousing cordovan business firm masturbator Funny that he thinks the results of 4 firms means GULC is getting "pwned" whereas it is insufficient data for UVA. I know a couple of people that turned down K&E for other DC firms (like Skadden or Arnold & porter) and (gasp!) lower ranked firms not even mentioned in this post. I'm sure that happened at GW too.
this data doesn't mean anything without more information. Making the assumption that people always pick the highest ranked (or most prestigious) offer they get is retarded. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:27 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage It's insufficient data for GULC too. But this troll was arguing that even if it held up, it could be explained away by geographical preferences. Which is nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5362027) |
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Date: March 18th, 2006 3:51 PM Author: Obsidian Pistol Mood I think it's funny how you can't help but bring UVa into this discussion, even when no one has mentioned us. You really need to deal with this long-running inferiority complex you have with us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5367937) |
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Date: March 18th, 2006 3:56 PM Author: Thriller Turquoise Chapel Amen. I'm glad another UVAer has taken notice of G2007's constant GULC trolling and UVA bashing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5367972) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:09 PM Author: spectacular cuckoldry temple I know somebody at GW that made this choice (Wilmer-DC over DPW-NY). Why would that be surprising? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359925) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:12 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater i don't think he suggested it's surprising; just that people might plausibly be indifferent between the two. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359959) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:15 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage He hasn't explained why this phenomenon would affect GULC more than other major-market T14s, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359994) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:24 PM Author: spectacular cuckoldry temple I think that because DC is a tougher market than NY that GULC might outperform GW more markedly in NY than in DC - that is, I think that the most competitive firms in DC require the same rank (top 10 or 15%) from GW and GULC, while top NY firms may only require top 25% from GULC and top 15% from GW. This is obviously just a guess on my part, but it's based on my friends' experiences (from GW and GULC) in NY and DC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360071) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:33 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage "the most competitive firms in DC require the same rank (top 10 or 15%) from GW and GULC"
This is the whole point--top DC firms consider GULC and GW to be equivalent. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:36 PM Author: spectacular cuckoldry temple Yeah, I agree for the most part. The very top DC firms only take top 10 or 15% of either school.
I'm not saying that other firms in DC (and in NY) don't go deeper into the class at GULC than they do at GW, but for students at the top of the class the schools are pretty much the same. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:20 PM Author: orchid swashbuckling dragon "i don't think he suggested it's surprising; just that people might plausibly be indifferent between the two."
Something like that |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:20 PM Author: orchid swashbuckling dragon It's not "surprising."
It was apparently one of the assumptions of the other guy that students from GW and GULC typically prefer a top DC firm/office over comparable firms/offices elsewhere. But we have absolutely no evidence to indicate that so I was pointing out that his assumption has no basis. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:31 PM Author: spectacular cuckoldry temple Got it. I misunderstood your post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360135) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 3:40 PM Author: sable roommate I'm at GULC and I chose a DC firm not listed over one of the firms listed.
Not all of us want to do appellate litigation. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 3:44 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Those firms are among the best in DC for trial lit and corporate work, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360715) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 3:48 PM Author: sable roommate Some of those firms don't have much of a corporate practice to speak of.
I chose a firm with a comparable corporate practice to one of those firms, but in the end one in which I thought was slightly better and more national than the firm I did not choose. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 4:19 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage That's reasonable, and probably not uncommon. My point is just that GULC students aren't turning down offers from these firms because they have offers at better firms, as a couple of the other posters were implying. There really aren't any better biglaw firms than these in DC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360972) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 4:12 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater skadden's probably better for corp/tax/some reg. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360910) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 4:16 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Chambers says Gibson is #1 in DC for corporate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360946) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 4:16 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater impressive. tied, though, w/ Skadden and others? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360951) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 4:21 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Skadden doesn't even make the list.
http://www.chambersandpartners.com/us/?action=frame&lf=sfrt&rf=spe&eid=73
EDIT: Skadden's DC office appears to be less corporate-focused than its other offices. According to NALP, only 40 lawyers do "Corporate" work there, compared to 86 doing "Litigation." |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 4:25 PM Author: thirsty affirmative action theater interesting. guess corporate's not on my radar. i turned down both those offices and had no idea about the corporate thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361004) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 4:29 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage I assumed Skadden would be a corporate player in DC too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361040) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:00 PM Author: sable roommate I may be showing my hand here... but that Gibson Chambers ranking is reflective of its regional prowess with respect to its corporate practice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361285) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:16 PM Author: spectacular cuckoldry temple Outside of xoxo, I don't think it's considered to be unimaginable that students would choose a lower ranked or so-called less prestigious firm over a top ranked firm, especially when there are other factors at play - e.g. strengths in particular practice areas, location, lifestyle differences, etc.
However, people on this board like to believe that no student would ever choose Kirkland-DC or Sidley-DC over Covington, for instance, when I know of a few people at GW that made that choice (or one similar to it). People have different priorities that factor into their decisions, and not everyone has prestige as their top priority, contrary to conventional wisdom on this board. So the numbers of SA's at top firms isn't always an accurate reflection of how well a school did at those firms. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:13 PM Author: appetizing volcanic crater market I didn't know they had a DC office. Good for them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359470) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:15 PM Author: Glittery boistinker Howard troll (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359491) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:25 PM Author: curious death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359573) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:26 PM Author: Glittery boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359578) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 1:51 PM Author: Anal talking elastic band giraffe Added to the summer class thread, thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359778) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:00 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef Subject: michigan pwn3d again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359849) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:03 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza Yeah, not so much. Michigan people in great numbers turned down Wilmer and K&E in favor of Covington this year. Oh yeah...and Jenner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359875) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:06 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage You should get one of your classmates to post the Covington #s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359897) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:19 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef Subject: ignore him, hes a massive michigan troll He picked Covington because we don't have those numbers yet. Convenient. Michigan's DC stats: 1 person to Jenner DC, 1 person to Wilmer DC, 1 person to Gibson DC, 0 to K&E DC... PWN3D!
Jenner: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=359417&mc=592&forum_id=2#5083280 Gibson: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=359417&mc=592&forum_id=2#5124000 Wilmer: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=359417&mc=592&forum_id=2#5083401
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:21 PM Author: Violet Adulterous Psychic Stage Somebody has to be going to Covington, their class is like 50 people. I think Chicago is only sending one (out of 6 or so offers). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360057) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:24 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza I'm not sure how you think that contradicts what I said. I know several people who got offers form those firms and turned them down for Covington. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360073) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:29 PM Author: black aphrodisiac sound barrier ok, let me get this massive pw3age straight here. you're providing data that show michigan as placing the 2nd best out of the 3 T14 midwestern schools? isn't that par for the course? also, why did you conveniently leave out Williams & Connolly? their info is in the same thread that you referred to 3 times. http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=359417&forum_id=2#5090633
jenner + wilmer + gibson + williams =
chicago: 10 michigan: 7 northwestern: 0
yeah, michigan did so poorly |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 3:05 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef i didnt include williams bc it wasnt mentioned in the post that i was responding to and while mentioned elsewhere, seems to be discussed mainly in the GULC v GW posts. I included GDC because that seems to be what comes up in the "peers" posts above. If you want to include Williams thats fine I dont really care. Even still, did you know that Michigan's class is 380 and Chicago's is 190? Do the math. 10 to 7 when the 10 is from a class half the size seems like pwnage to me. As for "massive," that adjective was in reference to hells bells being a umich troll. all i said was PWN3D and I stand by that. I am not concerned with nu's placement. As for the midwestern schools part, I don't think there is any argument that all three have great placement - I'm just poking fun at hells bells here (I posted specifically to elicit a response from him bc he posts anytime someone says something about umich's placement). But to be exact, Chicago has better placement numbers nationally than the other two and on par with nu in chicago, both of which are better than umich in chicago. I will leave the national placement umich v nu for someone else to argue. I'd say they're equal, but then again I don't care. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 3:37 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza "I'm just poking fun at hells bells here (I posted specifically to elicit a response from him bc he posts anytime someone says something about umich's placement)." Do you really expect anyone to believe that? It's not even close to being true, as I am much more likely to bash Michigan than to praise it. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:47 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef you go to michigan and you troll for it anytime someone posts anything negative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361667) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:55 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza Like, for example: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=376990&mc=53&forum_id=2#5317840 You're a joke. Skulk away, then kill self. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:00 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef lets see, im not going to post anything here, i just think you have an OCD need to have the last word (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361780) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 3:44 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza "i didnt include williams bc it wasnt mentioned in the post that i was responding to and while mentioned elsewhere, seems to be discussed mainly in the GULC v GW posts." Uh, the post you responded to was the original post. Which post are you claiming to have responded to? You are, of course, full of shit. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:48 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef the subject line of my response was "ignore him, hes a massive michigan troll" - thats you and i was responding to your post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361676) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:52 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza You're not making any sense. You know you've been PWN3D. The man asked you why you chose the firms you did, without including W&C. You have no response. You're a douche who was dinged by Chicago and Michigan. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:57 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef Subject: wow thats some ignorance I am a uchicago law grad (and turned down umich for law school - since I attended undergrad at michigan). And I did explain, I'm sorry that you don't understand. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:58 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza You are extraordinarily slow-witted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361764) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:00 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef again, lets see, im not going to post anything here, i just think you have an OCD need to have the last word (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361791) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:03 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza Ooooooooooooooooooh, snap! You said I have OCD! Oh no, you didn't! I just washed my hands about 5 times, and then wondered again how you came not to include W&C. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:06 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef gee big shock, you responded, do it again... come on... post again... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361859) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:07 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza Dude, you're totally fucking blowing my mind. This is just like an Escher painting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361874) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:08 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef again... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361881) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:09 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza I bet you're totally going to respond to this... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361891) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:13 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef yup - as are you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361916) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:15 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza I knew you wouldn't be able to stop. Does this distract you from the PWNAG3 you've suffered on the substantive matters of this thread? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361929) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:19 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361968) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:18 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef so you're going to try to turn this around to me needing to post? are you that unoriginal that you're going to do that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361957) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:20 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza Yeah, I'm unoriginal. But you can't stop posting, and you can't answer the question. I bet we can get this thread to 200 posts before the 7 pm games begin.
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:20 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361973) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:22 PM Author: ocher doctorate plaza Guess I win. Unsurprising. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361995) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:20 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361974) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:20 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361976) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:20 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361977) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:20 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef Subject: hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361980) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:21 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361982) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:21 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361983) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:21 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361984) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:21 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361985) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:21 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361987) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:21 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef hey OCD guy respond to all these - I bet you cant!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361988) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:21 PM Author: black aphrodisiac sound barrier Your response is so fuckin lame. What you really want to do is troll for Northwestern but you can't so you cling onto UC beating Michigan. In this case, Northwestern is not even on the comparison chart. Among the firms that have been brought up, UC pwns Michigan pwns Northwestern. Fair? Why bring up placement in Chicago? B/c it's the only major legal market that Northwestern beats Michigan in? Do you so badly need to say something good about Northwestern? Give me some data on San Fran, LA, DC, and NYC placement for Michigan and Northwestern. If not, STFU and stick to the DC placement topic. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:53 PM Author: excitant green ticket booth french chef i am trolling for nu? that's rich. im glad you admit that "UC pwns Michigan." That was my point. I remain correct. As I said before, I have no horse in the nu v umich debate. Debate it without me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5361732) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:12 PM Author: spectacular cuckoldry temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5359958) |
Date: March 17th, 2006 1:28 PM Author: curious death wish I know from a pretty reliable source that there were 9 offers extended to GW people for this summer. Most of those people were at the top of the class, and those that did not take K&E took other very competitive DC Firms.
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:16 PM Author: Seedy Maroon Kitty Halford Have fun. My friend who summered there last year worked constantly, from day one.
What a pleasant way to spend the summer. |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:15 PM Author: big pink kitty cat At least they have a more realistic impression of their future employer than anyone else in town.
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Date: March 17th, 2006 2:26 PM Author: Splenetic crackhouse milk Uh oh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381385&forum_id=2#5360097) |