\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

what rank at fordham for cravath?

For at least an interview.
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
You have to be a tenured professor at Fordham.
Effete cordovan digit ratio resort
  06/04/06
cravath is serously an unprestigious sweatshop that'll take ...
dead giraffe background story
  03/17/06
Any Fordham students know better than MDH, who is clearly pr...
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
top 10%, probably, unless you bid them number 1 or 2, in whi...
House-broken Appetizing Queen Of The Night
  03/17/06
Cool, how hard is it to get a job there once you make the cu...
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
it looks like they give callbacks to about half the people t...
House-broken Appetizing Queen Of The Night
  03/17/06
Thanks a lot for that info. My life plan is to go to Fordha...
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
Interesting. Why is this?
translucent thirsty fanboi
  03/17/06
There was an article about biglaw in the NYT and the white s...
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
If this was your goal since high school, why didn't you do b...
Zombie-like zippy friendly grandma circlehead
  03/17/06
I got really stoned the day before the lsat. I also had bad ...
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
are fucking serious? you think you wouldve done better on t...
Elite obsidian hairy legs mad-dog skullcap
  03/17/06
you're such an idiot. do you think that getting stoned prio...
laughsome sneaky criminal
  06/04/06
They have had some interesting cases in their lit history. ...
translucent thirsty fanboi
  03/17/06
Interesting. I'm going to check out that book. How bad are...
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
Hours seemed completely miserable, especially for first year...
translucent thirsty fanboi
  03/17/06
Goddamn that's brutal. The hours are what keep me from comm...
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
I fostered relationships with strange russians on the F-trai...
translucent thirsty fanboi
  03/17/06
ANNOUNCEMENT: THIS FUCKER IS A LOSER WHO SPENDS ALL OF HIS T...
wild shimmering private investor ticket booth
  06/04/06
ORLY?
Flickering cream temple
  08/04/06
my guess is top 10% to get an interview, top 5% to have any ...
lime flatulent address haunted graveyard
  03/17/06
Seems to fit in with some of what the other poster from Ford...
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
i would make the #1 student and the #2 student fight to the ...
disrespectful boiling water forum
  03/17/06
You're an odd one dood.
charismatic tan death wish
  03/17/06
FRAUDULENTINDUCEMENTPWN3D
fishy abode
  06/04/06
TRANSFERTOCN%
Dashing public bath
  03/17/06
" and the tightknit family qualities of Cravath really ...
Elite obsidian hairy legs mad-dog skullcap
  03/17/06
What's funny?
Jade bipolar kitty cat
  06/04/06
I've never heard of anyone working there and not hating it a...
french razzle-dazzle chapel keepsake machete
  06/04/06
Does this differ from other biglaw firms?
Insane Set Cuck
  06/04/06
the V5 firms are the worst of the worst to work for. they do...
provocative ocher dragon
  06/04/06
Thanks for the warning.
Insane Set Cuck
  06/04/06
Don't listen to him, biglaw is great.
Plum sweet tailpipe
  06/04/06
I don't believe you. Please post a pic.
Insane Set Cuck
  06/04/06
I've heard good things about Latham and Cleary if the V5 dis...
french razzle-dazzle chapel keepsake machete
  06/04/06
From anecdotal evidence S&C, DP, Simpson, and others all...
Titillating kitchen
  06/04/06
I live by things I read on message boards.
Plum sweet tailpipe
  06/04/06
Sucking dick on a regular basis helps keep your teeth white ...
Titillating kitchen
  06/04/06
Nice try.
Plum sweet tailpipe
  06/04/06
It jives with what I hear IRL too. At least with regard to ...
french razzle-dazzle chapel keepsake machete
  06/04/06
...
Talking Ceo
  08/04/06
Like all new Cravath associates, [William O.] Douglas quickl...
Irate double fault
  08/04/06


Poast new message in this thread





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:06 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

For at least an interview.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361332)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:31 PM
Author: Effete cordovan digit ratio resort

You have to be a tenured professor at Fordham.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906790)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:07 PM
Author: dead giraffe background story

cravath is serously an unprestigious sweatshop that'll take ANYONE from HYS. But for fordham, you need top 15% probably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361340)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:11 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

Any Fordham students know better than MDH, who is clearly prestigious, but clueless about Fordham.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361359)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: House-broken Appetizing Queen Of The Night

top 10%, probably, unless you bid them number 1 or 2, in which case you'll almost definitely get a screening interview regardless of rank. i didn't even bid them last year, so i don't know if numbers woulda cut it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361378)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

Cool, how hard is it to get a job there once you make the cutoff? Obviously fit comes into play, but do you really have to be like top 1% or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361393)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:27 PM
Author: House-broken Appetizing Queen Of The Night

it looks like they give callbacks to about half the people they screen at fordham, and offers to most of those they callback. fall 2004 was 19 callbacks, 13 offers. most prior years it was more like 5 callback, 5 offers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361482)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:31 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

Thanks a lot for that info. My life plan is to go to Fordham and work at Cravath. The Cravath part has been my plan since high school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361521)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:36 PM
Author: translucent thirsty fanboi

Interesting. Why is this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361573)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:41 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

There was an article about biglaw in the NYT and the white shoe firm they referred to was Cravath. I then began to do research on law as a career and firms themselves, mainly Cravath, and the tightknit family qualities of Cravath really attract me. I also like how they are focused in NYC and the only little satellite office is in London (it would be cool to summer there!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361612)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:44 PM
Author: Zombie-like zippy friendly grandma circlehead

If this was your goal since high school, why didn't you do better in college/LSAT and get into a decent school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361640)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:45 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

I got really stoned the day before the lsat. I also had bad cravings for a cigarette during it. I'm a ttt. Fordham is a very good school, fuck what you people think otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361646)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:54 PM
Author: Elite obsidian hairy legs mad-dog skullcap

are fucking serious? you think you wouldve done better on the lsat if you hadnt gotten high the day BEFORE? why not take it again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362185)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:48 PM
Author: laughsome sneaky criminal

you're such an idiot. do you think that getting stoned prior to the exam excuses your poor score? why do you even bother to consistently reiterate this pathetic aspect of your application cycle? you had so many options: cancel, postpone, retake. your mistake wasn't getting stoned, it was your inability to strategize, an albatross you will carry forever. no matter how hard you troll for Fordham, you can not disguise your eternal TTTness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5907066)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:57 PM
Author: translucent thirsty fanboi

They have had some interesting cases in their lit history. Have you read "The Partners" by James B Stewart? he's a former associate there who went on to publish/edit (?) American Lawyer. Good stuff on the AT&T trials (prominantly featuring Boies).

I was a para there for a little over a year. Didn't strike me as a tight knit place from observations and talking with younger associates, but who the fuck knows. Paras see so goddamned little, through bleary eyes to boot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361756)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:59 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

Interesting. I'm going to check out that book. How bad are the hours from what you did see? I meant tight knit in the sense of lockstep raises, staying with your class forever, never letting outsiders in. Seems like my kind of place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361776)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:03 PM
Author: translucent thirsty fanboi

Hours seemed completely miserable, especially for first years. I pulled 80-90 during busy cycles as a para (doc review, discovery pushes, ramp up before filings) and the associates were always a little more than that.

It was busy more than it wasn't. I was also under a partner who had busy/good cases. Some of the older partners had slower/less cases and their associates probably did too.

I'm sure someone here knows a lot more about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361817)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:04 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

Goddamn that's brutal. The hours are what keep me from committing myself to biglaw. I need to be able to have down time and foster a relationship with a woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361831)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:07 PM
Author: translucent thirsty fanboi

I fostered relationships with strange russians on the F-train on the way to work on weekends, and with foreigners who had the city's traffic problems worked out in their heads in car service home. So all's not lost.

Seriously, check out that book. The Cravath chapter makes them sound sweet as fuck, and the other chapters give a nice look at the culture and values of the other big NYC firms, at least the culture in the 70's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361870)





Date: June 4th, 2006 12:51 PM
Author: wild shimmering private investor ticket booth

ANNOUNCEMENT: THIS FUCKER IS A LOSER WHO SPENDS ALL OF HIS TIME ON THIS BOARD. HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING, AND CONSISTENTLY TALKS OUT OF HIS ASS. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906678)





Date: August 4th, 2006 4:28 PM
Author: Flickering cream temple

ORLY?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#6378351)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: lime flatulent address haunted graveyard

my guess is top 10% to get an interview, top 5% to have any sort of realistic chance.

EDIT: I don't go to Fordham, so take anything i say with a grain of salt. but that seems pretty accurate to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361379)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

Seems to fit in with some of what the other poster from Fordham said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361395)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: disrespectful boiling water forum

i would make the #1 student and the #2 student fight to the death. then i'd tell the winner that we don't have any spots open.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361404)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: charismatic tan death wish

You're an odd one dood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361411)





Date: June 4th, 2006 12:43 PM
Author: fishy abode

FRAUDULENTINDUCEMENTPWN3D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906663)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:35 PM
Author: Dashing public bath

TRANSFERTOCN%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362074)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:52 PM
Author: Elite obsidian hairy legs mad-dog skullcap

" and the tightknit family qualities of Cravath really attract me. "

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362166)





Date: June 4th, 2006 12:39 PM
Author: Jade bipolar kitty cat

What's funny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906652)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:24 PM
Author: french razzle-dazzle chapel keepsake machete

I've never heard of anyone working there and not hating it and wanting to kill themselves everyday.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906765)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:24 PM
Author: Insane Set Cuck

Does this differ from other biglaw firms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906767)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:36 PM
Author: provocative ocher dragon

the V5 firms are the worst of the worst to work for. they don't get those rankings by being nice to associates. they love to trick newly minted lawyers who come from poor backgrounds into working crazy hours by throwing around words like prestigious and V5.

the partners laugh all the way to the bank (actually they send someone else to the bank because they don't have time to go) because they pay about the same as everyone else yet get the associates to work significantly more time

here's what happens to suckers who buy into the mythology;

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=426082&mc=64&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906807)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:36 PM
Author: Insane Set Cuck

Thanks for the warning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906811)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:46 PM
Author: Plum sweet tailpipe

Don't listen to him, biglaw is great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906842)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:54 PM
Author: Insane Set Cuck

I don't believe you. Please post a pic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906872)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:18 PM
Author: french razzle-dazzle chapel keepsake machete

I've heard good things about Latham and Cleary if the V5 distinction isn't important to you.

That said, I haven't heard nearly the terrible things about Sully or DP that I have about Cravath.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906950)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:26 PM
Author: Titillating kitchen

From anecdotal evidence S&C, DP, Simpson, and others all sound pretty sweet compared to Cravath and Skadden. This is if you believe random shit on message boards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906978)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:30 PM
Author: Plum sweet tailpipe

I live by things I read on message boards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906984)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:31 PM
Author: Titillating kitchen

Sucking dick on a regular basis helps keep your teeth white and shiny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906988)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:31 PM
Author: Plum sweet tailpipe

Nice try.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906990)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:32 PM
Author: french razzle-dazzle chapel keepsake machete

It jives with what I hear IRL too. At least with regard to Cravath, SC and DP. The comments I hear on Skadden tend towards the middle (it sucks, but not more than it needs to) and I don't really hear much about Simpson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906995)





Date: August 4th, 2006 4:32 PM
Author: Talking Ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#6378374)





Date: August 4th, 2006 5:54 PM
Author: Irate double fault

Like all new Cravath associates, [William O.] Douglas quickly learned that the practice of law on Wall Street was a great deal less glamorous than he had imagined. New associates were crammed two to an office no bigger than a large closet and expected to bill three hundred hours per month. . . It was not unusual for his work day to last until two, three, or even four o'clock in the morning, whatever time it took to prepare the papers for the next day. Then, he rode the train home to Pelham for a couple hours of sleep, a shower, a fresh set of clothes, and a quick cup of coffee with Mildred before racing back to start the same cycle all over again.

--Bruce Allen Murphy, Wild Bill: The Life and Legend of William O. Douglas, p. 53

I wonder if anything has changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#6379008)