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what rank at fordham for cravath?

For at least an interview.
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
You have to be a tenured professor at Fordham.
Opaque Fortuitous Meteor Hissy Fit
  06/04/06
cravath is serously an unprestigious sweatshop that'll take ...
Tripping white abode
  03/17/06
Any Fordham students know better than MDH, who is clearly pr...
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
top 10%, probably, unless you bid them number 1 or 2, in whi...
citrine theater stage
  03/17/06
Cool, how hard is it to get a job there once you make the cu...
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
it looks like they give callbacks to about half the people t...
citrine theater stage
  03/17/06
Thanks a lot for that info. My life plan is to go to Fordha...
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
Interesting. Why is this?
pink lodge
  03/17/06
There was an article about biglaw in the NYT and the white s...
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
If this was your goal since high school, why didn't you do b...
Diverse effete corner
  03/17/06
I got really stoned the day before the lsat. I also had bad ...
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
are fucking serious? you think you wouldve done better on t...
disrespectful international law enforcement agency
  03/17/06
you're such an idiot. do you think that getting stoned prio...
flatulent dysfunction field
  06/04/06
They have had some interesting cases in their lit history. ...
pink lodge
  03/17/06
Interesting. I'm going to check out that book. How bad are...
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
Hours seemed completely miserable, especially for first year...
pink lodge
  03/17/06
Goddamn that's brutal. The hours are what keep me from comm...
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
I fostered relationships with strange russians on the F-trai...
pink lodge
  03/17/06
ANNOUNCEMENT: THIS FUCKER IS A LOSER WHO SPENDS ALL OF HIS T...
gaped theatre
  06/04/06
ORLY?
Talented hospital masturbator
  08/04/06
my guess is top 10% to get an interview, top 5% to have any ...
Thirsty Lake Selfie Faggotry
  03/17/06
Seems to fit in with some of what the other poster from Ford...
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
i would make the #1 student and the #2 student fight to the ...
deranged trip round eye
  03/17/06
You're an odd one dood.
Offensive shrine
  03/17/06
FRAUDULENTINDUCEMENTPWN3D
red rehab travel guidebook
  06/04/06
TRANSFERTOCN%
Odious fantasy-prone theater
  03/17/06
" and the tightknit family qualities of Cravath really ...
disrespectful international law enforcement agency
  03/17/06
What's funny?
Cerise voyeur
  06/04/06
I've never heard of anyone working there and not hating it a...
Anal crystalline wrinkle
  06/04/06
Does this differ from other biglaw firms?
Brilliant Jet-lagged Locus
  06/04/06
the V5 firms are the worst of the worst to work for. they do...
Transparent cracking wagecucks stain
  06/04/06
Thanks for the warning.
Brilliant Jet-lagged Locus
  06/04/06
Don't listen to him, biglaw is great.
Henna Judgmental Hall Factory Reset Button
  06/04/06
I don't believe you. Please post a pic.
Brilliant Jet-lagged Locus
  06/04/06
I've heard good things about Latham and Cleary if the V5 dis...
Anal crystalline wrinkle
  06/04/06
From anecdotal evidence S&C, DP, Simpson, and others all...
bright beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  06/04/06
I live by things I read on message boards.
Henna Judgmental Hall Factory Reset Button
  06/04/06
Sucking dick on a regular basis helps keep your teeth white ...
bright beady-eyed step-uncle's house
  06/04/06
Nice try.
Henna Judgmental Hall Factory Reset Button
  06/04/06
It jives with what I hear IRL too. At least with regard to ...
Anal crystalline wrinkle
  06/04/06
...
Fragrant Keepsake Machete
  08/04/06
Like all new Cravath associates, [William O.] Douglas quickl...
Fiercely-loyal motley shitlib chad
  08/04/06


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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:06 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

For at least an interview.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361332)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:31 PM
Author: Opaque Fortuitous Meteor Hissy Fit

You have to be a tenured professor at Fordham.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906790)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:07 PM
Author: Tripping white abode

cravath is serously an unprestigious sweatshop that'll take ANYONE from HYS. But for fordham, you need top 15% probably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361340)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:11 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

Any Fordham students know better than MDH, who is clearly prestigious, but clueless about Fordham.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361359)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: citrine theater stage

top 10%, probably, unless you bid them number 1 or 2, in which case you'll almost definitely get a screening interview regardless of rank. i didn't even bid them last year, so i don't know if numbers woulda cut it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361378)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

Cool, how hard is it to get a job there once you make the cutoff? Obviously fit comes into play, but do you really have to be like top 1% or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361393)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:27 PM
Author: citrine theater stage

it looks like they give callbacks to about half the people they screen at fordham, and offers to most of those they callback. fall 2004 was 19 callbacks, 13 offers. most prior years it was more like 5 callback, 5 offers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361482)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:31 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

Thanks a lot for that info. My life plan is to go to Fordham and work at Cravath. The Cravath part has been my plan since high school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361521)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:36 PM
Author: pink lodge

Interesting. Why is this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361573)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:41 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

There was an article about biglaw in the NYT and the white shoe firm they referred to was Cravath. I then began to do research on law as a career and firms themselves, mainly Cravath, and the tightknit family qualities of Cravath really attract me. I also like how they are focused in NYC and the only little satellite office is in London (it would be cool to summer there!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361612)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:44 PM
Author: Diverse effete corner

If this was your goal since high school, why didn't you do better in college/LSAT and get into a decent school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361640)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:45 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

I got really stoned the day before the lsat. I also had bad cravings for a cigarette during it. I'm a ttt. Fordham is a very good school, fuck what you people think otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361646)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:54 PM
Author: disrespectful international law enforcement agency

are fucking serious? you think you wouldve done better on the lsat if you hadnt gotten high the day BEFORE? why not take it again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362185)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:48 PM
Author: flatulent dysfunction field

you're such an idiot. do you think that getting stoned prior to the exam excuses your poor score? why do you even bother to consistently reiterate this pathetic aspect of your application cycle? you had so many options: cancel, postpone, retake. your mistake wasn't getting stoned, it was your inability to strategize, an albatross you will carry forever. no matter how hard you troll for Fordham, you can not disguise your eternal TTTness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5907066)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:57 PM
Author: pink lodge

They have had some interesting cases in their lit history. Have you read "The Partners" by James B Stewart? he's a former associate there who went on to publish/edit (?) American Lawyer. Good stuff on the AT&T trials (prominantly featuring Boies).

I was a para there for a little over a year. Didn't strike me as a tight knit place from observations and talking with younger associates, but who the fuck knows. Paras see so goddamned little, through bleary eyes to boot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361756)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:59 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

Interesting. I'm going to check out that book. How bad are the hours from what you did see? I meant tight knit in the sense of lockstep raises, staying with your class forever, never letting outsiders in. Seems like my kind of place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361776)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:03 PM
Author: pink lodge

Hours seemed completely miserable, especially for first years. I pulled 80-90 during busy cycles as a para (doc review, discovery pushes, ramp up before filings) and the associates were always a little more than that.

It was busy more than it wasn't. I was also under a partner who had busy/good cases. Some of the older partners had slower/less cases and their associates probably did too.

I'm sure someone here knows a lot more about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361817)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:04 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

Goddamn that's brutal. The hours are what keep me from committing myself to biglaw. I need to be able to have down time and foster a relationship with a woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361831)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:07 PM
Author: pink lodge

I fostered relationships with strange russians on the F-train on the way to work on weekends, and with foreigners who had the city's traffic problems worked out in their heads in car service home. So all's not lost.

Seriously, check out that book. The Cravath chapter makes them sound sweet as fuck, and the other chapters give a nice look at the culture and values of the other big NYC firms, at least the culture in the 70's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361870)





Date: June 4th, 2006 12:51 PM
Author: gaped theatre

ANNOUNCEMENT: THIS FUCKER IS A LOSER WHO SPENDS ALL OF HIS TIME ON THIS BOARD. HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING, AND CONSISTENTLY TALKS OUT OF HIS ASS. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906678)





Date: August 4th, 2006 4:28 PM
Author: Talented hospital masturbator

ORLY?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#6378351)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: Thirsty Lake Selfie Faggotry

my guess is top 10% to get an interview, top 5% to have any sort of realistic chance.

EDIT: I don't go to Fordham, so take anything i say with a grain of salt. but that seems pretty accurate to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361379)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

Seems to fit in with some of what the other poster from Fordham said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361395)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: deranged trip round eye

i would make the #1 student and the #2 student fight to the death. then i'd tell the winner that we don't have any spots open.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361404)





Date: March 17th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: Offensive shrine

You're an odd one dood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361411)





Date: June 4th, 2006 12:43 PM
Author: red rehab travel guidebook

FRAUDULENTINDUCEMENTPWN3D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906663)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:35 PM
Author: Odious fantasy-prone theater

TRANSFERTOCN%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362074)





Date: March 17th, 2006 6:52 PM
Author: disrespectful international law enforcement agency

" and the tightknit family qualities of Cravath really attract me. "

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362166)





Date: June 4th, 2006 12:39 PM
Author: Cerise voyeur

What's funny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906652)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:24 PM
Author: Anal crystalline wrinkle

I've never heard of anyone working there and not hating it and wanting to kill themselves everyday.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906765)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:24 PM
Author: Brilliant Jet-lagged Locus

Does this differ from other biglaw firms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906767)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:36 PM
Author: Transparent cracking wagecucks stain

the V5 firms are the worst of the worst to work for. they don't get those rankings by being nice to associates. they love to trick newly minted lawyers who come from poor backgrounds into working crazy hours by throwing around words like prestigious and V5.

the partners laugh all the way to the bank (actually they send someone else to the bank because they don't have time to go) because they pay about the same as everyone else yet get the associates to work significantly more time

here's what happens to suckers who buy into the mythology;

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=426082&mc=64&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906807)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:36 PM
Author: Brilliant Jet-lagged Locus

Thanks for the warning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906811)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:46 PM
Author: Henna Judgmental Hall Factory Reset Button

Don't listen to him, biglaw is great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906842)





Date: June 4th, 2006 1:54 PM
Author: Brilliant Jet-lagged Locus

I don't believe you. Please post a pic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906872)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:18 PM
Author: Anal crystalline wrinkle

I've heard good things about Latham and Cleary if the V5 distinction isn't important to you.

That said, I haven't heard nearly the terrible things about Sully or DP that I have about Cravath.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906950)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:26 PM
Author: bright beady-eyed step-uncle's house

From anecdotal evidence S&C, DP, Simpson, and others all sound pretty sweet compared to Cravath and Skadden. This is if you believe random shit on message boards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906978)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:30 PM
Author: Henna Judgmental Hall Factory Reset Button

I live by things I read on message boards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906984)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:31 PM
Author: bright beady-eyed step-uncle's house

Sucking dick on a regular basis helps keep your teeth white and shiny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906988)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:31 PM
Author: Henna Judgmental Hall Factory Reset Button

Nice try.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906990)





Date: June 4th, 2006 2:32 PM
Author: Anal crystalline wrinkle

It jives with what I hear IRL too. At least with regard to Cravath, SC and DP. The comments I hear on Skadden tend towards the middle (it sucks, but not more than it needs to) and I don't really hear much about Simpson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906995)





Date: August 4th, 2006 4:32 PM
Author: Fragrant Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#6378374)





Date: August 4th, 2006 5:54 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal motley shitlib chad

Like all new Cravath associates, [William O.] Douglas quickly learned that the practice of law on Wall Street was a great deal less glamorous than he had imagined. New associates were crammed two to an office no bigger than a large closet and expected to bill three hundred hours per month. . . It was not unusual for his work day to last until two, three, or even four o'clock in the morning, whatever time it took to prepare the papers for the next day. Then, he rode the train home to Pelham for a couple hours of sleep, a shower, a fresh set of clothes, and a quick cup of coffee with Mildred before racing back to start the same cycle all over again.

--Bruce Allen Murphy, Wild Bill: The Life and Legend of William O. Douglas, p. 53

I wonder if anything has changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#6379008)