what rank at fordham for cravath?
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:06 PM Author: charismatic tan death wish
For at least an interview.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361332) |
Date: March 17th, 2006 5:07 PM Author: dead giraffe background story
cravath is serously an unprestigious sweatshop that'll take ANYONE from HYS. But for fordham, you need top 15% probably.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361340) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 5:57 PM Author: translucent thirsty fanboi
They have had some interesting cases in their lit history. Have you read "The Partners" by James B Stewart? he's a former associate there who went on to publish/edit (?) American Lawyer. Good stuff on the AT&T trials (prominantly featuring Boies).
I was a para there for a little over a year. Didn't strike me as a tight knit place from observations and talking with younger associates, but who the fuck knows. Paras see so goddamned little, through bleary eyes to boot.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361756) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:03 PM Author: translucent thirsty fanboi
Hours seemed completely miserable, especially for first years. I pulled 80-90 during busy cycles as a para (doc review, discovery pushes, ramp up before filings) and the associates were always a little more than that.
It was busy more than it wasn't. I was also under a partner who had busy/good cases. Some of the older partners had slower/less cases and their associates probably did too.
I'm sure someone here knows a lot more about this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361817) |
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Date: March 17th, 2006 6:07 PM Author: translucent thirsty fanboi
I fostered relationships with strange russians on the F-train on the way to work on weekends, and with foreigners who had the city's traffic problems worked out in their heads in car service home. So all's not lost.
Seriously, check out that book. The Cravath chapter makes them sound sweet as fuck, and the other chapters give a nice look at the culture and values of the other big NYC firms, at least the culture in the 70's.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361870) |
Date: March 17th, 2006 5:14 PM Author: lime flatulent address haunted graveyard
my guess is top 10% to get an interview, top 5% to have any sort of realistic chance.
EDIT: I don't go to Fordham, so take anything i say with a grain of salt. but that seems pretty accurate to me.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361379) |
Date: March 17th, 2006 5:18 PM Author: disrespectful boiling water forum
i would make the #1 student and the #2 student fight to the death. then i'd tell the winner that we don't have any spots open.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5361404) |
Date: March 17th, 2006 6:35 PM Author: Dashing public bath
TRANSFERTOCN%
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362074) |
Date: March 17th, 2006 6:52 PM Author: Elite obsidian hairy legs mad-dog skullcap
" and the tightknit family qualities of Cravath really attract me. "
LOL
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5362166) |
Date: June 4th, 2006 1:24 PM Author: french razzle-dazzle chapel keepsake machete
I've never heard of anyone working there and not hating it and wanting to kill themselves everyday.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906765)
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Date: June 4th, 2006 1:36 PM Author: provocative ocher dragon
the V5 firms are the worst of the worst to work for. they don't get those rankings by being nice to associates. they love to trick newly minted lawyers who come from poor backgrounds into working crazy hours by throwing around words like prestigious and V5.
the partners laugh all the way to the bank (actually they send someone else to the bank because they don't have time to go) because they pay about the same as everyone else yet get the associates to work significantly more time
here's what happens to suckers who buy into the mythology;
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=426082&mc=64&forum_id=2
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906807) |
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Date: June 4th, 2006 2:18 PM Author: french razzle-dazzle chapel keepsake machete
I've heard good things about Latham and Cleary if the V5 distinction isn't important to you.
That said, I haven't heard nearly the terrible things about Sully or DP that I have about Cravath.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#5906950) |
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Date: August 4th, 2006 5:54 PM Author: Irate double fault
Like all new Cravath associates, [William O.] Douglas quickly learned that the practice of law on Wall Street was a great deal less glamorous than he had imagined. New associates were crammed two to an office no bigger than a large closet and expected to bill three hundred hours per month. . . It was not unusual for his work day to last until two, three, or even four o'clock in the morning, whatever time it took to prepare the papers for the next day. Then, he rode the train home to Pelham for a couple hours of sleep, a shower, a fresh set of clothes, and a quick cup of coffee with Mildred before racing back to start the same cycle all over again.
--Bruce Allen Murphy, Wild Bill: The Life and Legend of William O. Douglas, p. 53
I wonder if anything has changed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=381542&forum_id=2#6379008) |
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