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Has the George Luce / Vinson & Elkins email been posted yet?
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:41 AM Author: Mustard home It's hilarious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108781) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:45 AM Author: Mustard home From: Chatman, Carliss Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:42 AM To: Rumbaugh, Holly; Dennis, Patrick; Lankau, Tim Subject: FW: request to reconsider George Luce
This is a guy I interviewed last week. WTF? -----Original Message----- From: George_Luce@lamd.uscourts.gov [mailto:George_Luce@lamd.uscourts.gov] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:25 AM To: Johnson, Loreatha Cc: Schick, Robert M.; Davidow, Jennifer; Harvin, David; Pipkin, Emily; Kornegay, Nancy; Mehta, Persis; Murphy, George; Hodge, Justin; Reeder, James; Chatman, Carliss; Held, Kenneth; Lawson, Corey; Powers, Jason; Omar, Amin Subject: request to reconsider George Luce
Dear Loreatha,
I received your letter dated May 11, and I am extremely disappointed that Vinson & Elkins has chosen not to extend me an offer. I remain convinced that V&E is the right firm for me. While it is hard to quibble with the verdict of a panel of 14 people, I believe that a real mistake was made, and I ask that my application be reconsidered.
I assume that V&E's chief objective in hiring new associates is to get the best people it can get. Please consider the fact that in law school, I earned the top score in my section on EVERY PAPER in both of my legal writing courses. (The grading was done anonymously.) My article was selected for publication in the Northwestern Law Review, which is one of the top law reviews in the country. Judge Amy St. Eve, a federal judge with whom I externed, will tell you that I was the best extern she ever had (and her externs were mostly cream-of-the-crop Northwestern students, many of whom went on to federal appellate clerkships). The Judge I work for now, as well as other people with whom I have worked, will tell you that I have unusual talent as a legal analyst. I suggest that before you conclude that I don't measure up to V&E's standards, you ask people with whom I have worked what they think about my work and my abilities. At risk of sounding arrogant, I submit that I would be a standout performer at V&E, even though V&E is an elite firm that can select from among the best candidates.
I sensed that some of my interviewers were uncomfortable with the fact that I am not committed to a specific substantive area of law. I would argue, however, that the tools that we bring to the table as lawyers are far more important than the direct, "relevant" experience we bring. "Practical" experience is no substitute for creative intelligence, intellectual sophistication, and pure tenacity. The career clerk in my judge's chambers has 20+ years of experience, so she knows a lot of things that I don't know. But she is not in my league as a legal analyst and writer. I have seen enough during my clerkship to say with confidence that I am capable of better work - far better work - than most of the "experienced" attorneys who practice before my judge.
As a judicial clerk, I have been deeply immersed in all sorts of cases at every phase of the litigation process. There are many procedural issues that are common across all different substantive areas of law. There are many connections and overlaps between the different substantive areas. Even within a given substantive area, every case is different, turning on its own facts. The relatively inexperienced associates who specialize in a particular area will have only seen a small part of the universe of possible issues that may arise in their area. Given these facts, I am highly skeptical that, say, a 3rd-year associate who has specialized in "oil and gas" is going to be light years ahead of me in that field. The hypothetical 3rd-year associate will certainly know a lot more than I know about the art and practice of lawyering. But it is highly doubtful that her substantive oil and gas knowledge (which of course exceeds mine) will give her a significant advantage over me when it comes time to analyze the next oil and gas case (which will no doubt involve issues that neither of us have seen before). I want to work on interesting, challenging cases, but I don't believe it would be rational for me to arbitrarily limit myself to a specific substantive area of law at this point in my career. I'll find my niche down the road. I would think that V&E would prefer that their new associates be open-minded enough to try different things.
I would also add that there are intangible factors to be considered. I left a lucrative job in my mid-thirties, working hard to score in the top 1% nationwide on the LSAT so I could go to an elite law school. (I was the oldest guy in my class.) When I was a computer programmer, I was a one-man consulting firm, saving my employer (the state of Louisiana) millions of dollars in costs and making the lives of thousands of people (the system's users) easier. Often, I would go to bed at night, half dreaming, half awake, obsessing over a thorny problem that I encountered. When the creative inspiration would come in the morning, those were the greatest thrills of my life. I know what its like to work 80-hour weeks for months on end. I know what's it like to be considered the expert of last resort - the guy they call in the middle of the night when the data gets corrupted and no one else can figure out what to do. I take my work SERIOUSLY and I take great pride in what I do. I would submit that these are the qualities that can make me a "franchise player" at V&E.
I recognize that the chance that you will reconsider and extend me an offer are very slim. (Lawyers tend to be extremely risk-averse and unwilling to do things differently than they've done before.) But please give this request some serious consideration. I suggest that you begin by talking with some of the folks who have worked with me.
Finally, if you are not willing to change your verdict on me, would you please do the favor of giving me some honest feedback about why you were not impressed enough with me to make an offer? Is it my age? (I'm 39, but I'm healthier than most 25-year-olds.) Is it that I'm losing my hair? (I am willing to undergo transplants!) Is it the fact that I wore a pink shirt to my interview? (My wife picked it out.) Is it the fact that I took the Louisiana bar exam before taking the Texas bar exam? (I took the Louisiana exam because I wanted to get licensed in my home state, and I wanted to get it out of the way first because I had to learn all that civil code stuff.) Is it because I have spent most of my life in Louisiana? (Houston is only a 3-hour car ride or a 40-minute plane ride from Baton Rouge.) Is it because I have a minor speech impediment (a "lacerated S")? Is it because I am introverted? Do I come across as arrogant? Too timid? Is it because I'm not committed to a specific substantive area of litigation?
You judged me as a qualified candidate based on my paper credentials, as evidenced by your willingness to expend the resources to bring me in for an interview. I assure you that I am a much better lawyer than even my paper credentials suggest! Please give me another look. It would be a shame if V&E and me are deprived of a mutually profitable relationship because I failed to present myself well in person on May 8.
Sincerely, George Luce |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:49 AM Author: Aromatic Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108836) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:53 AM Author: Mustard home I really wonder what possessed him to write something like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108856) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:55 AM Author: twinkling mental disorder international law enforcement agency Sounds like a pretty typical TTT NU student to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108861) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:56 AM Author: Mustard home TTT? But he had the highest grade in legal writing!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108865) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:57 AM Author: passionate dilemma giraffe It was probably pass/fail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108879) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 10:08 PM Author: mauve nibblets blood rage underappreciated post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270857) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:13 PM Author: Black coiffed volcanic crater nursing home I appreciated it... Truly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747719) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:56 AM Author: passionate dilemma giraffe He should apply for academic positions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108870) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:56 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button AHAHAHAHAHA
That is the best thing I have read in awhile. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:57 AM Author: citrine crackhouse persian 39? jesus christ. what do these nontrads think they are doing? a first year associate shouldn't be older than the partners (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108878) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:59 AM Author: Mustard home You'd think someone his age would know better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108894) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:05 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button This is what bothers me about the whole ordeal:
First, who expends that much energy writing to any firm after a ding?
Second, it's V&E. It's in Texas. Why would anyone want to work there so badly? |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:10 AM Author: Aromatic Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108960) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:10 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button x (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108965) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:06 AM Author: citrine crackhouse persian it's especially sad because he was a computer programmer before the dotcom boom (assuming that wasn't another foolish career change) and should have made millions of dollars off some start up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108941) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:05 AM Author: cheese-eating internal respiration public bath did he get the job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108933) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:10 AM Author: Aromatic Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108964) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:31 AM Author: spruce high-end circlehead national You know I've occassionally thought about emailing to ask why I didn't get an offer at a particular place (for self improvement purposes if there's something obvious I'm screwing up.) This email has scared me straight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109903) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 11:59 AM Author: Heady casino It's actually ok to send the recruiter a brief email and ask for feedback. Worst thing that can happen is they'll ignore it and you'll never see them again. Best thing that can happen is that the hiring partner is a nice guy and he'll answer you himself (I do know someone this happened to).
It's not ok to do what this douchebag did. |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 10:05 PM Author: mauve nibblets blood rage this thread is absolutely beautiful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270841) |
Date: June 30th, 2006 1:48 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108827) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:56 AM Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap half-breed An absolute classic.
"Is it my age? (I'm 39, but I'm healthier than most 25-year-olds.) Is it that I'm losing my hair? (I am willing to undergo transplants!) ... Is it because I have a minor speech impediment (a "lacerated S")?"
How about all of the above? And nice job of highlighting everything that likely turned them off the first time. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:57 AM Author: Aromatic Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108872) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 1:59 AM Author: Curious metal dingle berry indian lodge i love the glaring grammatical error in his last sentence
also, i love the pithy "this is a guy i interviewed last week. WTF?" by the guy who forwarded the email.
finally, i love how he butresses his academic qualifications with this amazing factoid: ", I earned the top score in my section on EVERY PAPER in both of my legal writing courses. (The grading was done anonymously.)" |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:00 AM Author: Canary glittery multi-billionaire this is why xoxo makes fun of nontrads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108901) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:04 AM Author: Mustard home Yeah, seems like a disproportionate number of these emails come from nontrads for some reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108922) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:06 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button x (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108937) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:03 AM Author: Umber Motley Rigpig Native at least he's modest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108920) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:04 AM Author: Aromatic Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108921) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:04 AM Author: Mustard home Hell, some partners there are probably almost 10 years younger than him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108925) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:04 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button This letter should be made into a template where you can just add the firm that dinged you and your law school; every firm that ever dings an xoxo poster should receive this letter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108926) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:06 AM Author: cheese-eating internal respiration public bath fucking awesome idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108936) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:08 AM Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap half-breed I love this idea. The ultimate "fuck you" to a firm that has dinged you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108951) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:09 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button It would be especially great if one firm were to receive multiple copies of the letter from students at different schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108956) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:09 AM Author: citrine crackhouse persian yasfrat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108959) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:16 AM Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap half-breed This is exactly what would be great about it. The first one they get will get passed around the office and everybody will laugh at the dude who sent it. Then they would receive 10 more identical letters the next day, and they would quickly realize that the joke was on them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108994) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:18 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button haha, yep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109008) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:06 AM Author: passionate dilemma giraffe Someone needs to email him this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108939) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:13 AM Author: cheese-eating internal respiration public bath Dear Greg Luce:
I was messing around on the internet last night when I came across an (embarrassing) email you had sent to Vinson & Elkins - a moderaltely prestigious law firm located in some shit state - expressing your wish to be reconsidered for an associate position. Your letter was long, self-aggrandizing, immodest, disrespectful, and poorly written. The email was posted on a discussion board, by some random person (rumor has it the poster was a sneaky V&E summer associate), and many posters rightly ridiculed you for it. Here is the link:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&mc=27&forum_id=2
BAFF. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:19 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button Pretty good, but let's send it through editing first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109014) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:20 AM Author: cheese-eating internal respiration public bath uh oh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109019) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:10 AM Author: Aromatic Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108962) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:11 AM Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108969) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:13 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button Why did you wear a pink shirt to the interview? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108980) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:14 AM Author: citrine crackhouse persian he must not have seen that simpsons episode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108985) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:13 AM Author: Blue cocky trailer park I read the thread title as George Lucas email (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108981) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:15 AM Author: cheese-eating internal respiration public bath pwn3d. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6108991) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:18 AM Author: Mustard home 99 Nw. U.L. Rev. 437 is his student note.
Author footnote:
* I wish to thank Professor Max Schanzenbach and Professor Anthony D'Amato for reading and commenting on an earlier draft of this Comment. I also wish to thank Professor D'Amato for teaching me to "think like a lawyer" - and Clinical Professor Susan Provenzano for teaching me to write like one. I thank the editors and staff members of the Northwestern Law Review for their judicious editorial work. I am especially grateful to Executive Editor Chiawen Kiew for graciously accommodating my last-minute revisions. Finally, I thank my family and friends who believed in me - especially my wife Josefina who patiently endured many nights as a "library widow" while I prepared this Comment. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:20 AM Author: citrine crackhouse persian lame. if I write a note I'm going to put either something funny or something about jews in the media in the author footnote (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109017) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:23 AM Author: Mustard home I can't believe his student note is 85 pages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109043) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM Author: citrine crackhouse persian LOL and it's about age discrimination
SHOULDHAVESEENITCOMINGPWN3D |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM Author: cheese-eating internal respiration public bath lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109066) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 8:59 PM Author: Snowy Becky this is one of the best "-PWN3D" combos I've seen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308815) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:29 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button HAHHAHAHA, that is awesome! Who would publish that?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109079) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:05 PM Author: Heady casino After reading his email, I can. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113185) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:20 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button x (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109018) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:21 AM Author: passionate dilemma giraffe It's like he won a fucking Oscar or something. Woohoo, I convinced a bunch of 25 year-old fags to print my slop! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109023) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 7:54 PM Author: wonderful copper chapel laser beams "I convinced a bunch of 25 year-old fags to print my slop!"
Possibly my favorite post of the year. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:21 AM Author: Mustard home But he has to thank his library widow and the prof who taught him to think like a lawyer! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109027) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:31 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button If anyone ever told me to "think like a lawyer" I would kick them in the teeth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109092) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:03 PM Author: Onyx hairraiser sweet tailpipe credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113173) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:15 PM Author: Boyish Slimy Stag Film Fortunately, no one would ever expect you to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113280) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:22 AM Author: Umber Motley Rigpig Native "think like a lawyer," the battle cry of TTT students (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109038) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap half-breed The resourcefulness of this board never ceases to amaze me. Looking up his note on westlaw - on the one hand, so obvious; on the other, pure genius.
I love you people. |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 11:21 AM Author: Jet hunting ground BASH BASH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747240) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:23 AM Author: odious narrow-minded hominid location This can't be real, right? I mean, it can't be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109041) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:24 AM Author: Mustard home I'd like to think people like this don't exist, but then after seeing that long-winded author footnote... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109049) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:03 PM Author: vigorous area immigrant if you knew the guy you would know that it is real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110674) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:25 AM Author: cheese-eating internal respiration public bath does anyone on xoxo know him IRL? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109055) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:28 AM Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap half-breed His grandkids might post here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109072) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM Author: Indecent jewess No wonder everyone assumes all us nontrads are gunner-douches. What an ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109064) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:26 AM Author: aquamarine thriller piazza at least he understands that this isn't going to work. he might get a couple hints about being less of a douche in the future. all he wasted was time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109065) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:28 AM Author: Mustard home Well this email is starting to circulate widely (there were 50+ people it was forwarded to before it got to me). At this rate no one is going to want to hire him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109073) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:30 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button Especially when this thread starts showing up on Google. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109086) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:33 AM Author: Chrome self-centered orchestra pit factory reset button Yep, that should do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109103) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:34 AM Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap half-breed Not cool, man. You just really fucked some innocent dude name Goerge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109116) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:36 AM Author: cheese-eating internal respiration public bath who knows, they might misspell his name when they run the search. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109127) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 10:17 PM Author: dashing plaza digit ratio LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270909) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:34 PM Author: Green swashbuckling legal warrant You clearly have no idea how google works. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6309093) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:31 AM Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap half-breed When I am a BIGLAW partner in 8 years, I am going to personally handwrite the address on the ding letter we send to a 47 year-old George Luce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109090) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:43 AM Author: aquamarine thriller piazza someone will hire him.
he's got a decent resume.
he's screwed for really prestigious places, but i'm sure some v100 will probably give him a shot. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:45 AM Author: Vermilion mad-dog skullcap half-breed George Luce has a son at Minnesota? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109179) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:46 AM Author: aquamarine thriller piazza douches of a feather flock together. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109184) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:45 AM Author: aquamarine thriller piazza also, this is like saying my letter to brooklyn was widely circulated and will have a bad effect on me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109181) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:32 AM Author: twinkling mental disorder international law enforcement agency George Luce = nontrad douchebag at NU = Moonshine Hillbilly?
Probably not, but it would be funny. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:33 AM Author: cheese-eating internal respiration public bath own3d. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109107) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 2:34 AM Author: Mustard home This guy is already one year out, so no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109112) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 3:58 AM Author: Comical cerise locale pocket flask you guys are funny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109408) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 4:00 AM Author: Comical cerise locale pocket flask here's "Carliss Chatman," the attorney who forwarded the email http://wc.studentaffairs.duke.edu/wc/images/fof01_CarlissChatman_385px.jpg
WTF? |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 4:12 AM Author: aquamarine thriller piazza that is so not what i expected a Carliss Chatman to look like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109430) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:23 AM Author: ruddy institution Her blog is entitled "It's Easy to Find Jesus When You've Run Out of Cocaine," which I assume is a dig at the president, which seems pretty ballsy when you work at V & E in Houston. Small wonder she's hidden/deleted it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109848) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:18 PM Author: Boyish Slimy Stag Film Fwiw, Bush could always afford cocaine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113307) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:26 AM Author: Comical cerise locale pocket flask i thought it'd be a prissy dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109869) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:15 PM Author: aquamarine thriller piazza exactly. some WASPy fucker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110782) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:28 PM Author: balding locus hissy fit i imagine there's a lot of quickly concealed confusion at meetings when carliss chatman shows up for the first time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110865) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:05 PM Author: Vibrant Khaki Site This is funny! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113189) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 10:27 PM Author: Primrose impertinent place of business She needs a retro-active ding. What a beast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270980) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 4:38 AM Author: chartreuse water buffalo black woman ty ty ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109462) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:25 AM Author: ruddy institution This thread = instant classic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109864) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:30 AM Author: mildly autistic ape Unbelievable. Best of all, its poorly written. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6109896) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:42 AM Author: Flirting Magical Bawdyhouse Headpube I love this guy!!! He really deserved to get the job!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110014) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:42 AM Author: milky jew pervert This could and should get him fired from his clerkship. You think the staff attorney -- or the judge who hired her -- appreciates a clerk talking about how inferior her lawyerly skillz are? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110018) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:53 AM Author: Comical cerise locale pocket flask he also attacks the skills of the "oil and gas" associates - apparently thinking this would help land him the job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110099) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:12 PM Author: supple messiness gas station LOL.... that part was the highlight of his arrogant gunner-douche missive for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110752) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:20 PM Author: Boyish Slimy Stag Film Yeah, I already copied that section for pasting:
"The career clerk in my judge's chambers has 20+ years of experience, so she knows a lot of things that I don't know. But she is not in my league as a legal analyst and writer." |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:46 AM Author: Comical cerise locale pocket flask the total lack of self-awareness is priceless. i keep reading and re-reading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110050) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:21 PM Author: Obsidian wagecucks I read it with Dwight Schrutte's voice in my head. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110819) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:49 AM Author: Indecent jewess He'll get in everywhere he re-applies! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110074) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 10:56 AM Author: Comical cerise locale pocket flask i'm gonna fuck the living shit out of josefina luce sounds like a total venezuelan trophy wife/maid |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 11:17 AM Author: Ocher insanely creepy reading party Who the fuck uses exclamation points in a business letter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110283) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2008 6:58 PM Author: vivacious box office George Luce, thats who (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10087666) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 11:55 AM Author: fluffy trust fund tanning salon tragic.
this is almost as good as "bla bla bla"
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:12 PM Author: Onyx hairraiser sweet tailpipe The pink shirt and the hair transplants might bring it about even. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113248) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:01 PM Author: Heady casino This is the best law review at NU will get you?
HAHA. Where's Joe_Vaj when we need him? |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:03 PM Author: Lime Galvanic Church Building He might not have been on law review at Northwestern. In fact, he could have had bad grades. He just said that he got a paper published on the NU law review. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110676) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:05 PM Author: Heady casino True. I posted that mostly to bring Joe_Vaj out of the woodwork for some trolling fun.
You could be law review at Harvard, but if you're a giant douchebag like that dude no one will want to hire you. I think we all know someone like that. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:02 PM Author: vigorous area immigrant holy crap. I know that guy. I graduated in his class at NU. He was a 2005 grad so he has been out of work for awhile. He was weird, although not as weird as Zve Rosenberg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110668) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:06 PM Author: Ocher insanely creepy reading party Fat? He sounds fat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110703) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:07 PM Author: vigorous area immigrant no. really skinny. The funny thing is that the two weirdest people in our class were George (the oldest) and Zve (the youngest) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110716) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:08 PM Author: Ocher insanely creepy reading party Is his speech impediment really noticable? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110723) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:12 PM Author: vigorous area immigrant George's? no, not particularly. I assumed he would get a job somewhere. He didn't even look that old. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110751) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:09 PM Author: Heady casino Zve Rosenberg sounds like a fundamentalist Jew of some sort. Was he? That would explain the weird. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110730) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 12:11 PM Author: vigorous area immigrant no. he just had a really strong lisp and stutter and was amazingly hard to communicate with. very nice guy though, just was in a different world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6110744) |
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Date: August 13th, 2006 2:40 AM Author: tan massive rehab Subject: That's incorrect, ttboy Close but wrong. In the 2005 class, Zvi was the third youngest. Hudson Hollister was younger than Zvi and Mike Lawyer was the youngest in the class.
Btw, from what I heard from another 1L in our section at the time, George Luce got a C+ in Civ Pro with Hoskins. I wonder if that's true. Anyways, he sure was a nice, friendly guy. I'm sorry to see him getting so publicly pwned. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 4:47 PM Author: Aromatic Toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113086) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 4:56 PM Author: Onyx hairraiser sweet tailpipe 99th percentile LSAT --> NU?
Law review + clerkship --> Ding at Texas oil firm?
LIFEPWN3D |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:08 PM Author: lilac cuckoldry meetinghouse I think upon reading closely, you'll see that those accomplishments you say he has were slightly inflated.
He wasn't necessarily ON LR, but had his note published. He didn't have a clerkship, but from what I read, it was an externship. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:14 PM Author: Onyx hairraiser sweet tailpipe It reads as if he did an externship AND a clerkship.
And not even student editors would publish an 85 page note about nothing important for someone who wasn't on LR. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:15 PM Author: lilac cuckoldry meetinghouse I didn't see anything about a clerkship, I'll have to read it again.
EDIT: Ok, saw that paragraph. RCPWNED. Damn, what a douche |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:21 PM Author: Heady casino His email is at Louisiana Middle District. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113331) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:19 PM Author: Heady casino It doesn't appear that he was on LR. At least, he was never an editor.
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/lawreview/editorialboard/editorialboard2004-2005.html |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:27 PM Author: Onyx hairraiser sweet tailpipe Holyfuckingshit. The NU law review publishes 85 page crap on employment law from non-lr members? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113389) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:49 PM Author: Heady casino Unless all NU LR members don't become members, apparently yes.
With most journals, everyone becomes some sort of editor. Can any NU students confirm this is true on NULR? |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 6:23 PM Author: Bronze university i have never heard of a non lr student getting published in the lr. This is a first to my knowledge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113842) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 6:25 PM Author: Heady casino But if he'd been on LR, his name would have been listed as some sort of editor for one of the years he was on it, correct? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113856) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 6:27 PM Author: Bronze university he would either be listed as an editor during his 3L year or a staff member during his 2L year. sometimes though, people write on and their names don't make the first edition of the staff member section. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113871) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 6:28 PM Author: Heady casino OK, I didn't see staff members listed anywhere, but he was never listed as an editor. So does that mean he wasn't on LR? Or that he may have been on as a 2L but quit as a 3L or something?
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:44 PM Author: appetizing ticket booth They were too dumb for me. My lack of "experience" in law reviews is more than compensated for by my general intelligence! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113521) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:01 PM Author: misunderstood sick stage Fish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113159) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:01 PM Author: spruce high-end circlehead national Fish is one or two years behind this guy (I think). He's working in NYC as a summer associate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113163) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:05 PM Author: lilac cuckoldry meetinghouse I live for threads like this.
Does "library widow" even make sense? |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:15 PM Author: balding locus hissy fit perhaps the 161 is accurate after all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113275) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:19 PM Author: lilac cuckoldry meetinghouse I'm glad this joke will never get old. ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113313) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:08 PM Author: Vibrant Khaki Site I commend GTO as the OP, and every single comment contained herein. This is why I love xoxo more than irl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113216) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:08 PM Author: Exciting double fault whorehouse WOW! This is Big Tex quality douchebaggery.
I can't believe he put his LSAT % in the letter. Is he fucking insane? And what was with all his IT bullshit?
Offering to get a hair transplant though is what pushes him over the cliff for me. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:14 PM Author: lilac cuckoldry meetinghouse I like the pink shirt line, with the (very important) caveat that his wife picked it out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113264) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:16 PM Author: Exciting double fault whorehouse Which basically says he can't pick his own clothes out, but was concerned enough about it to seek to distance himself from the decision by throwing her under the bus.
Classy guy. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:18 PM Author: lilac cuckoldry meetinghouse ti,oc,tcr.
The continued and unnecessary use of parentheses also made this very difficult to read |
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Date: July 1st, 2006 12:46 PM Author: Mustard home LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6117623) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:22 PM Author: Boyish Slimy Stag Film "The career clerk in my judge's chambers has 20+ years of experience, so she knows a lot of things that I don't know. But she is not in my league as a legal analyst and writer."
Better hope the clerk's office doesn't get wind of this statement before the firm calls to re-check his credentials. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:27 PM Author: Exciting double fault whorehouse After rereading the email, I now think this has to be flame. How about when he says Lawyers are risk averse. Why say something so stoopid? I mean that is like right off XO.
And he says, "At risk of sounding arrogant ..." Who would say something so stoopid.
If not flame, something like this should really ruin his career if their was any justice in the world. |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:28 PM Author: Heady casino >>Who would say something so stoopid.
Have you ever talked to a nontrad? |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:30 PM Author: Exciting double fault whorehouse Sure. Some dood in my section is 30-35 and he is one of the nicest, coolest, most laid back doods in school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113412) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:31 PM Author: Heady casino Where do you go to school? I'm going to send a team of anthropologists to observe him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113421) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:32 PM Author: Exciting double fault whorehouse I really don't think this dood is indoicative of any class of people, other than the douchebag class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113430) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:51 PM Author: Heady casino No, I definitely can think of at least four nontrads I graduated with who would do something like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113576) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:31 PM Author: Onyx hairraiser sweet tailpipe Obiously worse even than LLMs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113423) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:33 PM Author: lilac cuckoldry meetinghouse The best part about this thread is that someone reading this thread is going to, at some point, run into "George Luce" during the course of his/her career. And promptly burst out laughing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113438) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:47 PM Author: appetizing ticket booth bla bla bla (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113539) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 5:57 PM Author: talented disturbing station alpha I can't believe it's real; it's just too perfect for xoxo...but if it's fake, it was incredibly elaborate to research the names of 4 V&E junior associates who were the original forwarders, etc...
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Date: June 30th, 2006 6:24 PM Author: Bronze university wow are people at my law school such douchetards? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113851) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 6:27 PM Author: lilac cuckoldry meetinghouse See, for example, Reade_Seligmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113869) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 6:28 PM Author: Bronze university getting into b-school wipes away all my sins (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113876) |
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Date: June 30th, 2006 6:29 PM Author: lilac cuckoldry meetinghouse You may be right about that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6113881) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 5:56 PM Author: Racy self-absorbed mood Subject: Confidentiality You know, Someone should tell Ms. Chatman it is not a good idea to blast stuff like this in e-mail to people you can't trust (or period for that matter) without deleting some names or something. It would be funny if someone let some partners of this firm know about what was going on. I don't think I'd want Ms. Chatman working for me knowing that she can't keep her mouth shut or take measures to insure confidentiality.
Here are the e-mails (all at velaw.com): rschick, sdavis (PARTNER), jdavidow, dharvin (PARTNER), epipkin, nkornegay, pmehta, grmurphy (PARTNER), jhodge, jreeder (PARTNER), cchatman (the e-mailer herself), kheld (PARTNER), clawson, jpowers, aomar. Then there are the folks that Ms. Chatman sent the e-mail to that most likely leaked it: hrumbaugh, pdennis, tlankau.
Ms. Chatman, If you are reading this... You chose the wrong people to trust. Next time take out names and such before you forward this around. |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 5:58 PM Author: spruce high-end circlehead national Go right ahead, jackass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269279) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:08 PM Author: ultramarine razzle-dazzle foreskin theater Hi George.
P.S.: What the hell were you thinking? |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:15 PM Author: Racy self-absorbed mood I just didn't understand why they didn't hire me and wanted them to reconsider. I was perfect for that job. I just thought that showing them how much I wanted the job they would maybe reconsider. I'm sure I'm smarter than you... You obviously have nothing better to do than sit on a computer and put down other people all day. Get a fucking life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269417) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:17 PM Author: passionate dilemma giraffe I suggest dropping this whole thing now before you make it any worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269427) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:18 PM Author: ultramarine razzle-dazzle foreskin theater It actually wasn't a bad letter until you got to the paragraph asking why they didn't hire you and listing all of your insecurities. If you had left that paragraph out (and the line about being smarter than your co-clerk), you wouldn't be the laughing stock of the legal world - there's no way they would have reconsidered and given you the job, but at least you wouldn't have made a fool of yourself.
Also, FYI, telling everybody how smart you are is not the way to get a job, make friends, or accomplish anything else in life. |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:19 PM Author: Sadistic dopamine point You are either wonderful flame or the best new poster in ages. Welcome! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269454) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:19 PM Author: drab unholy dragon generalized bond Welcome, George!!!
Oh my God... |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:50 PM Author: cracking house-broken coffee pot i think it's jess_w3@hotmail.com
see the last comment http://prdifferently.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/07/what_not_to_do_.html |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 7:23 PM Author: drab unholy dragon generalized bond He seems to have admitted that he's George, or at least flaming as George. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269990) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 7:59 PM Author: cracking house-broken coffee pot email the addy above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270212) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:22 PM Author: Sadistic dopamine point Um, what was the confidential information that she disclosed here? And how would your judge feel about your insulting his career clerk in an email to a bunch of "the wrong people to trust"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269480) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:29 PM Author: spruce high-end circlehead national Good catch. I was wondering about that.
As for the "career clerk" slight, that's just BS. I wish there was some way of that getting into the hands of the judge (not the career clerk). |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:31 PM Author: Sadistic dopamine point I don't think there's much to be gained by getting this email in the hands of the guy's judge. He's a douchebag, but he's doing a good enough job of self-pwning that there's really no reason to add fuel to the fire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269539) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:33 PM Author: spruce high-end circlehead national I was leaning toward that conclusion. You are a calm voice in these troubled times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269559) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:15 PM Author: spruce high-end circlehead national Google is now aware of this thread: http://www.google.com/search?q=george%20luce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269414) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:20 PM Author: Sadistic dopamine point Beautiful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269462) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 10:22 PM Author: dashing plaza digit ratio It's number 4 on google. Let's try to make it #1 by tonight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6270949) |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 10:28 PM Author: mauve nibblets blood rage a good way to do that is to click on the link after searching george luce. also links to this thread on other websites help.
remember when searching miserable failure pointed you at the white house site? thats how they did it. |
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Date: July 21st, 2006 6:46 PM Author: henna greedy corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6269689) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:33 AM Author: mauve nibblets blood rage How long till this email shows up in law blogs like the hudson river girl/other email blunders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271742) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:39 AM Author: ultramarine razzle-dazzle foreskin theater http://www.legalreader.com/archives/003352.html http://drunklaw.blogspot.com/2006/07/schadenfreude.html |
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Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:45 AM Author: mauve nibblets blood rage nice. hopefully it will make its way into the higher traffic blogs and eventually a newspaper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271814) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:44 AM Author: Emerald Titillating Toilet Seat It's already been forwarded around by my school's career services. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271810) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:45 AM Author: mauve nibblets blood rage thats awesome. what kind of introduction did it come with? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271818) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 7:33 PM Author: Mustard home It seems to be picking up some momentum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308350) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2006 1:09 AM Author: Shivering Exhilarant Forum Sound Barrier he was a computer programmer in his past life? well, it certainly shows in his douchey letter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6271938) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 7:47 PM Author: Ungodly abode SOMEONE PWN GEORGE LUCAS WITH A WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE COMPLETE WITH PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!1
pwn3d!!!! |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 7:49 PM Author: Ungodly abode THIS THREAD IS NOW #1 ON GOOGLE FOR GEORGE LUCE!!!! SOMEONE SEND A LINK TO DRUGEREPORT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOL worldwide pwn georgie-boy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308441) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 7:50 PM Author: Ungodly abode how did google get wind of this so fast? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308449) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 8:34 PM Author: stirring burgundy resort karate Does anyone know which judge he clerked for? I have a feeling it's the same judge I interned for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6308696) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:11 PM Author: Charcoal hall You know, except for the paragraph about his experience as an extern, most of this isn't THAT bad. The last paragraph is probably a bit embarassing, but sometimes people make rash decisions.
You don't trash / insult the abilities of others though. That's classless. |
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Date: July 28th, 2006 12:33 PM Author: salmon school cafeteria community account Subject: *bump* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6321966) |
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Date: July 31st, 2006 11:06 AM Author: buff market I missed this thread when it first came out. I am very grateful to have seen it now. Thank you, xoxo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6343265) |
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Date: August 13th, 2006 5:25 PM Author: Peach heaven people who are hurt Did he go to a TTT undergrad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#6431428) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 11:20 AM Author: Jet hunting ground BASH, BASH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747238) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 11:22 AM Author: Jet hunting ground GTO google-bombed George Luce: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22george+luce%22 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747245) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 11:30 AM Author: mischievous trip principal's office Just read a post from a year ago but ill comment anyway...
This guy wasnt hired because he wasnt qualified or because of his age. He wasnt hired becuase hes a COMPLETE DOUCHEBAG. God who wants people like him as co-workers. He'd be a total cancer to the firm and bring down everyones morale and work product. |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:51 PM Author: walnut rigor stage He didn't show up on Martindale, think he is employed anywhere? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#7747610) |
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Date: June 9th, 2007 2:41 PM Author: Sinister field looks like he may still be clerking... ?
http://www.lsba.org/membership/LSBA_Membership.asp?ID=2006569
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 5:44 PM Author: Jet hunting ground Sucks to not get a job, huh GTO? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8055602) |
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Date: June 8th, 2007 7:09 PM Author: Spectacular fantasy-prone travel guidebook shrine thing is, *he* probably got a firm job eventually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8232177) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2007 6:01 PM Author: Duck-like Stimulating Spot Selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8055691) |
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Date: June 9th, 2007 12:41 PM Author: White base Wow... just came across this thread...
I was in George's section in my first year law class. George is a terrific guy and I hate to see this happening to such a genuinely good person (No, I am not George).
George may have made an error in judgment. If we were all judged solely by the worst decisions we made, none of us would look good in a thread such as this one.
In the event that prospective employers may read this in the future, take it from someone who attended law school with him: George is an industrious, bright guy. He made a mistake and I'm sure he has learned from it. |
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Date: June 9th, 2007 1:16 PM Author: Unhinged goal in life filthpig "(No, I am not George)" - hi george (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8234446) |
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Date: June 9th, 2007 1:21 PM Author: godawful mother titcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8234467) |
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Date: June 9th, 2007 2:07 PM Author: dun cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#8234604) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2008 7:01 PM Author: razzmatazz juggernaut The real villian in this whole affair was that mean bitch Carliss Chatman that forwarded the email with snarky comments. Yeah, the guy Luce is nuts but Chatman showed TERRIBLE judgment in the way she handled it. Luckily V&E got rid of that bitch but now she is at Morgan Lewis, even a bigger TTT.
Carliss Chatman, I wouldn't hire you to fight a $20 traffic ticket. You suck.
http://www.morganlewis.com/index.cfm/personID/757ea85c-989f-45a3-ad0f-f616844b73fa/fromSearch/1/fuseaction/people.viewBio |
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Date: August 22nd, 2008 7:27 PM Author: adventurous police squad i was gonna jump on board until i noticed she was black. pretty atypical for a black person to be a snarky passive-aggressive bitch. she must have some white blood as a creole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10087787) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2008 7:36 PM Author: bateful hairy legs affirmative action I would hope you wouldn't hire anyone to fight a $20 traffic ticket. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10087807) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2008 11:47 PM Author: pungent clown Seems like guy ended up finding a job in his home state and actually was on LR - good for him (sort of). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=445136&forum_id=2#10088679) |