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If they threaten to shut down this board, I bet most of you ...

... fucking run away, you fucking chickens. How many of y...
house-broken locus
  04/26/07
I would run away, rather than have my name and reputation at...
Submissive Hospital Windowlicker
  04/26/07
You're an idiot if you'd stake your reputation for this piec...
Yapping Kitty Cat Kitty
  04/26/07
STFU fag
disgusting excitant hominid
  04/26/07
do you live in China or something? Who is this "they?&q...
Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask
  04/26/07
There's a collective action problem because despite the (IMO...
smoky massive cruise ship
  04/26/07
This is a serious post so please dont bash me for my ignoran...
Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask
  04/26/07
you should have learned about collective action problems in ...
Blathering jet doctorate
  04/26/07
I never took that class.
Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask
  04/26/07
well you should, it's one of those classes that I think ever...
Blathering jet doctorate
  04/26/07
I took as many of those types of courses as I could but you ...
Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask
  04/26/07
I was trying to think if there was a more specific term for ...
smoky massive cruise ship
  04/26/07
tragedy of the commons?
irradiated step-uncle's house double fault
  04/26/07
is there a race to the bottom here?
Blathering jet doctorate
  04/26/07
LOL
Titillating nursing home legal warrant
  04/26/07
suboptimal equilibrium point.
irradiated step-uncle's house double fault
  04/26/07
Tragedy of the commons is more how everybody exploits a reso...
smoky massive cruise ship
  04/26/07
another way of saying tragedy of the commons is moral hazard...
Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask
  04/26/07
moral hazard and tragedy of the commons aren't the same thin...
irradiated step-uncle's house double fault
  04/26/07
you should tell this to my *** law professor because he uses...
Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask
  04/26/07
if you step away from the textbook example of tragedy of the...
irradiated step-uncle's house double fault
  04/26/07
All collective action problems are basically variants of the...
smoky massive cruise ship
  04/26/07
i'm thinking a concept like synergy might best describe it -...
irradiated step-uncle's house double fault
  04/26/07
You, Hazelrah, are a true genius. Edit: Holy fucking shit...
Titillating nursing home legal warrant
  04/26/07
Its obvious without the long explanation I just wanted to kn...
Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask
  04/26/07
this whole sub-thread reeks of pseudo-intellectual law stude...
Deep Roast Beef
  04/26/07
Fuck all of you, you fucking scared shit-eating niggers. Go ...
house-broken locus
  04/26/07


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Date: April 26th, 2007 1:47 AM
Author: house-broken locus

... fucking run away, you fucking chickens.

How many of you can genuinely say that you will stand up for this board?

You fuckers yield the benefits, but have absolutely no fucking loyalty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008553)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:49 AM
Author: Submissive Hospital Windowlicker

I would run away, rather than have my name and reputation attached to this shithole. I would be out like a light. Fold like a piece of paper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008563)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:49 AM
Author: Yapping Kitty Cat Kitty

You're an idiot if you'd stake your reputation for this piece of shit board and it's piece of shit administrators (ie: GTO....I won't pass judgement on rach at this point).

GTFOI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008564)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:50 AM
Author: disgusting excitant hominid

STFU fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008566)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:51 AM
Author: Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask

do you live in China or something? Who is this "they?" Are you talking about the owners?

If GTO and Rach want to shut it down they will and they wont ask any of us so there will be no opportunity to stand up for shit, but nobody can really force them to do it at the end of the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008569)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:52 AM
Author: smoky massive cruise ship

There's a collective action problem because despite the (IMO) large benefit of having this board, the benefit is dispersed among the many people who come here, so each of us only benefits a little.

I said this is another thread, but there is only a very small incentive for any of us to post here (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/I_did_it_for_the_lulz ) so it'd only take a small risk of negative consequences to send a chilling effect throughout the board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008570)





Date: April 26th, 2007 1:58 AM
Author: Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask

This is a serious post so please dont bash me for my ignorance.

I've never heard anyone call this a "collective action problem." Is this a term of art like "moral hazard" thats used a lot but that I was just to stupid to pickup in law school or did you just invent it now?

I agree with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008593)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:00 AM
Author: Blathering jet doctorate

you should have learned about collective action problems in business organizations/corporations, at the very least

the easiest example is shareholder voting, if you've got a widely held, dispersed company none of the very small shareholders really stand to gain enough to make it worth their while to monitor the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008606)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:02 AM
Author: Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask

I never took that class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008616)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:05 AM
Author: Blathering jet doctorate

well you should, it's one of those classes that I think everyone is expected to take at some point, but isn't necessarily a 1L class

like evidence or admin (your mileage may vary by school, obviously)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008632)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask

I took as many of those types of courses as I could but you cant take all the "bar" courses during 2L and 3L no matter how much you want to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008659)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:04 AM
Author: smoky massive cruise ship

I was trying to think if there was a more specific term for what I was describing, but I couldn't think of it. It's kind of like the flipside of free-riding, kind of like the prisoner's dilemma, is a bit related with externalities, but whatever, it's late and my command of buzzwords is a bit diminished. Regardless, it is certainly *a* collective action problem: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/free-rider/#1

This is more an economics thing than law school, although I think I owe my (obviously limited) knowledge of such things to a CLS course that is unfortunately no longer required (Regulatory State).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008623)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:05 AM
Author: irradiated step-uncle's house double fault

tragedy of the commons?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008630)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:06 AM
Author: Blathering jet doctorate

is there a race to the bottom here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008633)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: Titillating nursing home legal warrant

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008662)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: irradiated step-uncle's house double fault

suboptimal equilibrium point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008663)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM
Author: smoky massive cruise ship

Tragedy of the commons is more how everybody exploits a resource because there's no single person would benefit from their use. Same basic idea of a collective action problem but not really what's going on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008658)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:13 AM
Author: Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask

another way of saying tragedy of the commons is moral hazard and again you are right this isnt that for a bunch of reasons.

I thought collective action was different am I wrong?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008681)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:16 AM
Author: irradiated step-uncle's house double fault

moral hazard and tragedy of the commons aren't the same thing. tragedy of the commons specifically refers to communal property rights and overexploitation. moral hazard is what happens when you give people incentives to act badly - for instance, your car is insured, so you're not as careful when driving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008690)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:20 AM
Author: Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask

you should tell this to my *** law professor because he uses the two interchangeably. Though I guess medicaid creates both problems at the same time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008707)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:18 AM
Author: irradiated step-uncle's house double fault

if you step away from the textbook example of tragedy of the commons it is. in the tragedy of the commons case, no one has any incentive to stop exploiting a resource because they would lose even though society would be better off. here, no one would have any incentive to act because they would lose, while everyone else would be better off. the only difference i see is stopping action (t of c) and starting action (this board)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008701)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:23 AM
Author: smoky massive cruise ship

All collective action problems are basically variants of the prisoner's dilemma. So yes you can say that this is not too different from a tragedy of the commons, except the whole point of having the term "tragedy of the commons" is to talk about a specific situation, and that situation is not what we have here.

It's a little more like free-riding, which would be the case if one of us did try to stand up for the board but couldn't find anybody to go along with him or her. But again that's also a little different than this situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008717)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:25 AM
Author: irradiated step-uncle's house double fault

i'm thinking a concept like synergy might best describe it - where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008731)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:02 AM
Author: Titillating nursing home legal warrant

You, Hazelrah, are a true genius.

Edit: Holy fucking shit- Valen's post has made me realize why you explained this very simple concept so thoroughly. My apologies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008613)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:05 AM
Author: Flickering chartreuse bawdyhouse pocket flask

Its obvious without the long explanation I just wanted to know if its a commonly used term like moral hazard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008629)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:15 AM
Author: Deep Roast Beef

this whole sub-thread reeks of pseudo-intellectual law student douchebaggery. hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008684)





Date: April 26th, 2007 2:22 AM
Author: house-broken locus

Fuck all of you, you fucking scared shit-eating niggers. Go back to your fucking ghetto, fucking Africa turds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008715)