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Date: April 26th, 2007 1:47 AM Author: chocolate slap-happy temple ... fucking run away, you fucking chickens.
How many of you can genuinely say that you will stand up for this board?
You fuckers yield the benefits, but have absolutely no fucking loyalty |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 1:49 AM Author: Comical Dingle Berry I would run away, rather than have my name and reputation attached to this shithole. I would be out like a light. Fold like a piece of paper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008563) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 1:49 AM Author: amethyst adventurous background story idea he suggested You're an idiot if you'd stake your reputation for this piece of shit board and it's piece of shit administrators (ie: GTO....I won't pass judgement on rach at this point).
GTFOI. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 1:50 AM Author: Ruddy Arousing University STFU fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008566) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 1:51 AM Author: Startling cracking plaza toaster do you live in China or something? Who is this "they?" Are you talking about the owners?
If GTO and Rach want to shut it down they will and they wont ask any of us so there will be no opportunity to stand up for shit, but nobody can really force them to do it at the end of the day. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 1:52 AM Author: arrogant partner There's a collective action problem because despite the (IMO) large benefit of having this board, the benefit is dispersed among the many people who come here, so each of us only benefits a little.
I said this is another thread, but there is only a very small incentive for any of us to post here (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/I_did_it_for_the_lulz ) so it'd only take a small risk of negative consequences to send a chilling effect throughout the board. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 1:58 AM Author: Startling cracking plaza toaster This is a serious post so please dont bash me for my ignorance.
I've never heard anyone call this a "collective action problem." Is this a term of art like "moral hazard" thats used a lot but that I was just to stupid to pickup in law school or did you just invent it now?
I agree with you. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:00 AM Author: mewling outnumbered water buffalo you should have learned about collective action problems in business organizations/corporations, at the very least
the easiest example is shareholder voting, if you've got a widely held, dispersed company none of the very small shareholders really stand to gain enough to make it worth their while to monitor the firm |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:02 AM Author: Startling cracking plaza toaster I never took that class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008616) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:05 AM Author: mewling outnumbered water buffalo well you should, it's one of those classes that I think everyone is expected to take at some point, but isn't necessarily a 1L class
like evidence or admin (your mileage may vary by school, obviously) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM Author: Startling cracking plaza toaster I took as many of those types of courses as I could but you cant take all the "bar" courses during 2L and 3L no matter how much you want to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008659) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:04 AM Author: arrogant partner I was trying to think if there was a more specific term for what I was describing, but I couldn't think of it. It's kind of like the flipside of free-riding, kind of like the prisoner's dilemma, is a bit related with externalities, but whatever, it's late and my command of buzzwords is a bit diminished. Regardless, it is certainly *a* collective action problem: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/free-rider/#1
This is more an economics thing than law school, although I think I owe my (obviously limited) knowledge of such things to a CLS course that is unfortunately no longer required (Regulatory State). |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:05 AM Author: carmine bipolar senate selfie tragedy of the commons? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008630) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:06 AM Author: mewling outnumbered water buffalo is there a race to the bottom here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008633) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM Author: Bearded 180 nowag wagecucks LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008662) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM Author: carmine bipolar senate selfie suboptimal equilibrium point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008663) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:10 AM Author: arrogant partner Tragedy of the commons is more how everybody exploits a resource because there's no single person would benefit from their use. Same basic idea of a collective action problem but not really what's going on here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008658) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:13 AM Author: Startling cracking plaza toaster another way of saying tragedy of the commons is moral hazard and again you are right this isnt that for a bunch of reasons.
I thought collective action was different am I wrong? |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:16 AM Author: carmine bipolar senate selfie moral hazard and tragedy of the commons aren't the same thing. tragedy of the commons specifically refers to communal property rights and overexploitation. moral hazard is what happens when you give people incentives to act badly - for instance, your car is insured, so you're not as careful when driving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008690) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:20 AM Author: Startling cracking plaza toaster you should tell this to my *** law professor because he uses the two interchangeably. Though I guess medicaid creates both problems at the same time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008707) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:18 AM Author: carmine bipolar senate selfie if you step away from the textbook example of tragedy of the commons it is. in the tragedy of the commons case, no one has any incentive to stop exploiting a resource because they would lose even though society would be better off. here, no one would have any incentive to act because they would lose, while everyone else would be better off. the only difference i see is stopping action (t of c) and starting action (this board) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008701) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:23 AM Author: arrogant partner All collective action problems are basically variants of the prisoner's dilemma. So yes you can say that this is not too different from a tragedy of the commons, except the whole point of having the term "tragedy of the commons" is to talk about a specific situation, and that situation is not what we have here.
It's a little more like free-riding, which would be the case if one of us did try to stand up for the board but couldn't find anybody to go along with him or her. But again that's also a little different than this situation. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:25 AM Author: carmine bipolar senate selfie i'm thinking a concept like synergy might best describe it - where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008731) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:02 AM Author: Bearded 180 nowag wagecucks You, Hazelrah, are a true genius.
Edit: Holy fucking shit- Valen's post has made me realize why you explained this very simple concept so thoroughly. My apologies. |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:05 AM Author: Startling cracking plaza toaster Its obvious without the long explanation I just wanted to know if its a commonly used term like moral hazard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008629) |
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Date: April 26th, 2007 2:15 AM Author: Haunting Stain this whole sub-thread reeks of pseudo-intellectual law student douchebaggery. hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008684) |
Date: April 26th, 2007 2:22 AM Author: chocolate slap-happy temple Fuck all of you, you fucking scared shit-eating niggers. Go back to your fucking ghetto, fucking Africa turds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=620963&forum_id=2#8008715) |