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Dear white people: is it possible for a flag to symbolize different things?
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Date: September 18th, 2016 7:39 AM Author: opaque bbw That is, your symbol of courage, valor, and military service might also be a symbol of shared values, justice, and equality for others? Why is it that the former is the only acceptable interpretation of the Star Spangled Banner/Flag? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3355523&forum_id=2#31434278) |
Date: September 18th, 2016 8:03 AM Author: Thriller Ratface Sure as long as you admit the confederate flag can symbolize different things than hate and racism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3355523&forum_id=2#31434303) |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 8:10 AM Author: opaque bbw You mean like treason? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3355523&forum_id=2#31434309) |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 8:12 AM Author: Glittery messiness rigor not helping your point here breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3355523&forum_id=2#31434312) |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 8:15 AM Author: opaque bbw I'm all for Southerners who take pride in their traditions and heritage.
But the Confederate flag was the chosen symbol of an uprising against the US that resulted in the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Americans. You can try usurp it to mean Southern pride, but so long as you still call it the Confederate flag it's still treason against America |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 8:17 AM Author: cerebral navy senate Stop erasing their experiences. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3355523&forum_id=2#31434323) |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 8:17 AM Author: Glittery messiness rigor still not helping your point breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3355523&forum_id=2#31434327) |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 8:23 AM Author: opaque bbw Not following you.
The symbol can mean whatever you'd like it to, but that doesn't erase it's history.
Nobody is trying to rewrite the history of the American flag by seperating its imagery from military service. There're trying to amend it to mean a country worth fighting for |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 8:26 AM Author: Cheese-eating diverse digit ratio gaming laptop Some things can't be amended friend. It's literally the only thing that ties our country of misfits together. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3355523&forum_id=2#31434337) |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 8:33 AM Author: Glittery messiness rigor possibility one is that a flag means multiple things in that it means different things to different people so to a vet it could mean military, etc. and to a hoodrat it could mean oppression so to kaepernick it means oppression, and not honoring veterans or however else a vet might see it. fine. so the confederate flag can represent southern pride to the southerner, the other associations notwithstanding. possibility two is that a flag represents multiple things to everyone and some people choose to respond to particular associations or prioritize some associations over others. so kaepernick prioritizes the oppression view. fine. southerners can prioritize the southern pride view of the confederate flag. --- you're not giving equal treatment here if you say that we have to respond to the confederate flag in one particular way because of one of its particular associations, but don’t give the us flag the same treatment. |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 9:42 AM Author: twisted partner piazza That uprising was entirely caused by the North.
Don't rewrite history and claim all the sudden that you're the non-violent one. |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 9:59 AM Author: alcoholic peach jewess No one can force you to betray your country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3355523&forum_id=2#31434603) |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 10:23 AM Author: twisted partner piazza Their "country" was determined to make their private property (most of a person's net worth, in some cases) instantly worthless, and they correctly deduced its actors were on a moral crusade instead of reaching a practical political and compensatory solution like literally every other country who dealt with the slavery issue.
But tell me against about the moral high ground of burning every home in the South to the ground, Yankee scum. |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 10:25 AM Author: alcoholic peach jewess Only the very wealthy owned slaves, not exactly a "moral" issue that benefited the impoverished men who actually fought in the war.
The South is luckily that they weren't roundly massacred after the war |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 11:26 AM Author: twisted partner piazza It doesn't matter how many people owned slaves in the context of who could have avoided a war. It matters that there were plenty of alternate paths for the arrogant Yankees to take and they didn't take them. Plain and simple. And when you essentially endorse them being massacred, you prove you didn't give a shit about anything involved except for sticking it to people you called "treasonous" for not being loyal to a country they didn't recognize.
No wonder the fucking North keeps shoving its shit policies down the South's throat today; it's all they ever knew. |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 11:29 AM Author: alcoholic peach jewess "not being loyal to a country they didn't recognize."
See, that's the thing. You cant just choose to not recognize your government. I'd love to stop paying taxes, but I'd go to jail |
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Date: September 18th, 2016 9:54 AM Author: Learning disabled stead Yes. For example, in a war, the friendly side will see a flag as a symbol of one's own side, while the enemy will see the it as a symbol of the enemy's side.
That's why it's a little troubling that libs all seem to see America as the enemy, and cheer it's downfall. |
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