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advice for xoxo virgins and guys with no luck with women

here's what worked for me. used to have shitty luck/skills ...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
do u pat their butts if u want them to sit down
Talented haunting tanning salon fanboi
  10/19/09
no don't be stupid. if you want a dog to sit down or lie do...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
Oh my god. I just realized my bf does that.
gold hyperventilating double fault psychic
  10/19/09
congratulations, you've been trained!
sticky rusted crotch queen of the night
  10/19/09
its natural. humans are social animals not at all unlike do...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
what kind of body language?
bat shit crazy swashbuckling locus roast beef
  10/19/09
see my posts below
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
You know you like it.
frum magenta property messiness
  10/19/09
likewise, doing this to guys is pretty effective as well.
charismatic yarmulke
  10/19/09
its effective for all human relationships where you want to ...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
you just discovered this?
charismatic yarmulke
  10/19/09
no i didn't just discover this. but i did have horrible luc...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
lol at the thought of some xo virgin beta petting a girl's h...
pea-brained offensive hairy legs
  10/19/09
http://blog.robbiecooper.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/weev...
charismatic yarmulke
  10/19/09
petting is a normal way of communication through touch. but...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
bump for the virgins
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
Fine, I'll bite. Outside of eye contact and being controlli...
heady indian lodge
  10/19/09
no see telling her where you're going is normal language and...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
b00r?
submissive theatre boiling water
  10/19/09
wtf this is extremely credited advice. smiling is good, b...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
"wtf this is extremely credited advice." yes...
submissive theatre boiling water
  10/19/09
Dogs don't smile...
floppy halford
  10/19/09
yes they do, and they laugh too, but the laughing is almost ...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
several of the images in that google result are obvious phot...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
No, I mean that they LOOK like they're smiling, but it's jus...
floppy halford
  10/19/09
call it what you want. the point is that they do something ...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
this thread has great potential
charismatic yarmulke
  10/19/09
MAKE SURE TO BARE YOUR TEETH!!
heady indian lodge
  10/19/09
in other words smile.
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
I think OP is actually serious tho
bat shit crazy swashbuckling locus roast beef
  10/19/09
why wouldn't i be?
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
even better. this is like the old don barzini thread in...
charismatic yarmulke
  10/19/09
...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
as a basement virgin, i agree with all of the above. ive not...
Thriller international law enforcement agency really tough guy
  10/19/09
only on xo would virgins disagree with the suggestion that g...
submissive theatre boiling water
  10/19/09
...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
this should be perpetually bumped for the benefit of the xox...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
this is all a load of shit. i interact with people like this...
poppy nofapping parlor dragon
  10/19/09
embarrassed = un-confidant/submissive HTH you can dominat...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
...
poppy nofapping parlor dragon
  10/19/09
why the hate dooder? why are you resorting to ad hominem an...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
The thing that gets me about this is not everyone is capable...
Vigorous mint senate
  10/19/09
yes granted it is only one tool. as i believe i said above....
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
this is right. it only ends up looking comical, and the more...
poppy nofapping parlor dragon
  10/19/09
clearly if a guy who wants to utilize this advice has a body...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
...
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/19/09
i think this is about right. 4 those of you who haven't fig...
Adulterous provocative friendly grandma principal's office
  10/19/09
I wouldn't say you have to dominate them or anything. But p...
frum magenta property messiness
  10/19/09
tuesday morning bump for the xoxo virgins.
rambunctious meetinghouse
  10/20/09


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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:17 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

here's what worked for me. used to have shitty luck/skills with girls. then i started to treat them like dogs. I DO NOT MEAN POORLY. i know the colloquial use of "treat like a dog" means "treat shitty", but literally treat them like an animal. communicate more with body language, posture, etc. than with words. this involves many subtleties. if you have dogs and you're good at training them you will pick on quicker. it involves literally dominating them with your commanding presence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032147)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:18 PM
Author: Talented haunting tanning salon fanboi

do u pat their butts if u want them to sit down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032151)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:19 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

no don't be stupid. if you want a dog to sit down or lie down you tower over it in a menacing way. make it know that you're bigger and you make eye contact. subtly threaten it like that it will capitulate and show its belly in a sign of submission. same for women. make sure you exert yourself in a way that your normally always towering over them in an aggressive way

try to avoid situations where you are literally beneath them, and never break eye contact first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032165)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:24 PM
Author: gold hyperventilating double fault psychic

Oh my god. I just realized my bf does that.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032223)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:25 PM
Author: sticky rusted crotch queen of the night

congratulations, you've been trained!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032230)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:27 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

its natural. humans are social animals not at all unlike dogs. in fact, there's a reason why dogs are man's best friend. we communicate very similarly.

women naturally are submissive to males in the relationship. that doesn't mean a man should control everything the woman does. but a woman does want a man that takes control. this isn't a sexist statement, but it is realistic regarding a normal healthy male-female relationship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032256)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:56 PM
Author: bat shit crazy swashbuckling locus roast beef

what kind of body language?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032593)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:57 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

see my posts below

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032606)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 11:04 PM
Author: frum magenta property messiness

You know you like it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13033464)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:27 PM
Author: charismatic yarmulke

likewise, doing this to guys is pretty effective as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032260)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:28 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

its effective for all human relationships where you want to establish authority and a commanding presence. body communication is much more important for social communication than language is, which is really just a means of communicating information and not subtle emotional cues.

that is we use language to say where food is, to say where water is, to say where enemies are, but we use body language to say who is chief, who is bottom of the totem pole, who is happy, who is relaxed, who is mad etc

think of how many times you first realized someone was happy or mad because they said, "I am happy." or "I am mad." it just doesn't happen that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032275)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:36 PM
Author: charismatic yarmulke

you just discovered this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032364)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:37 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

no i didn't just discover this. but i did have horrible luck with girls til i learned to start communicating more with body language. i was explaining that body language is an important part of basic social interaction, and if it is not be fully utilized in dating then you are making things harder than they need to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032381)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:26 PM
Author: pea-brained offensive hairy legs

lol at the thought of some xo virgin beta petting a girl's head in a bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032241)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:28 PM
Author: charismatic yarmulke

http://blog.robbiecooper.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/weev410.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032272)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:32 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

petting is a normal way of communication through touch. but it tends to be very intimate and not typically done in private.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032319)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:35 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

bump for the virgins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032354)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:36 PM
Author: heady indian lodge

Fine, I'll bite. Outside of eye contact and being controlling (tell her where you're going rather than ask her where she wants to), what do you reccomend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032362)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:40 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

no see telling her where you're going is normal language and not body communication.

for starters, here are some basics. you know how dogs lick your face? they do it as a sign of submission. kissing is a sign of submission. i'm not saying don't do it ever, but take this into account: when kissing try to place more emphasis on her neck. playfully biting the neck is a sign of dominance in dogs. they bite the neck to show that they can rip the throat open if they want to, but they aren't going to. so when kissing lick, lightly bite, and suck the neck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032407)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:41 PM
Author: submissive theatre boiling water

b00r?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032417)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:44 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

wtf this is extremely credited advice.

smiling is good, because it is a sign of relaxation and that a dog is comfortable. dogs smile when they are confidant in their surroundings and have no insecurity of being attacked.

if you smile you are displaying a dominance by establishing that you are not intimated by her or potential threats. you must show teeth however.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032444)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:44 PM
Author: submissive theatre boiling water

"wtf this is extremely credited advice."

yes...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032452)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:58 PM
Author: floppy halford

Dogs don't smile...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032612)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:59 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

yes they do, and they laugh too, but the laughing is almost inaudible to us.

http://images.google.com/images?q=smiling%20dog&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032619)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:01 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

several of the images in that google result are obvious photoshops. many are not, and i think you will easily recognize the non-photoshopped smiles. but here is a good one.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://positivepsychologynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/smiling_dog.jpg&imgrefurl=http://positivepsychologynews.com/news/miriam-akhtar/200904281850&usg=__aZIix9IJfBCLv-CNyF5DiZ73qHQ=&h=414&w=500&sz=131&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=6vNJGYXUSVNubM:&tbnh=108&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsmiling%2Bdog%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032628)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:06 PM
Author: floppy halford

No, I mean that they LOOK like they're smiling, but it's just because due to adaptive evolution, they're face structures make them look like they're smiling when they open their mouths.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032673)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:07 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

call it what you want. the point is that they do something very similar to a human's smile when they are happy and relaxed and confidant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032697)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:46 PM
Author: charismatic yarmulke

this thread has great potential

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032485)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:47 PM
Author: heady indian lodge

MAKE SURE TO BARE YOUR TEETH!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032492)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:48 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

in other words smile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032503)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:48 PM
Author: bat shit crazy swashbuckling locus roast beef

I think OP is actually serious tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032497)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:48 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

why wouldn't i be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032509)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:54 PM
Author: charismatic yarmulke

even better.

this is like the old don barzini thread in which he talked about black chicks with pink nipples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032572)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:52 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032546)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 9:57 PM
Author: Thriller international law enforcement agency really tough guy

as a basement virgin, i agree with all of the above. ive noticed that chicks like to stare at my crotch/dick whenever i stare them down. wgwag, oh fo so!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032602)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:00 PM
Author: submissive theatre boiling water

only on xo would virgins disagree with the suggestion that girls like eye contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032626)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:04 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032658)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:06 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

this should be perpetually bumped for the benefit of the xoxo noobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032678)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:07 PM
Author: poppy nofapping parlor dragon

this is all a load of shit. i interact with people like this all the time, who have bought into this idea that you can make a study of how to communicate "confidence" and project "dominance," etc. they can't seem to tell the difference between someone who is intimidated by them and someone who is just fucking embarrassed for them that they are carrying on that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032688)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:09 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

embarrassed = un-confidant/submissive HTH

you can dominate someone in multiple ways and at varying levels. you can obviously dominate someone until they begin to cry, until they become visibly embarrassed/upset, or you can dominate just to the point where they accept your authority etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032712)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:12 PM
Author: poppy nofapping parlor dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032752)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:13 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

why the hate dooder? why are you resorting to ad hominem and not discussing the validity of my hypothesis? i think i've given some pretty credited examples/statements above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032764)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:16 PM
Author: Vigorous mint senate

The thing that gets me about this is not everyone is capable of intimidation. A rail thin dude who has never set foot in the gym will not dominate me with body language. Ever. An unattractive guy will not dominate an attractive woman, no matter what he does. I can see this working when the dominant party is capable of domination...but that is sort of a no-brainer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032798)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:18 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

yes granted it is only one tool. as i believe i said above. non-verbal communication is an integral part of human relationships. if you aren't expressing yourself fully you're failing to utilize a powerful tool, but it is of course only a tool -- and one among many at that.

this is more advice for those who are able to land those first dates or can get a girl interested for a bit, but ultimately repel them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032827)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:21 PM
Author: poppy nofapping parlor dragon

this is right. it only ends up looking comical, and the more physically impressive person has the option of stoically allowing the other guy to reveal himself for the fraud that he is.

as Freud said, "physiognomy is fate."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032857)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:23 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

clearly if a guy who wants to utilize this advice has a body-frame that is comically thin/weak, then nothing will help him short of bulking up a bit and looking like a man. after that though, body-language conveys more in a relationship with a woman than normal language. if you're saying perfectly fine things but are using submissive, weak body-language then you will get shut down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13032893)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:39 PM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13033161)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 10:42 PM
Author: Adulterous provocative friendly grandma principal's office

i think this is about right. 4 those of you who haven't figured out existence yet it will seem a little strange.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13033186)



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Date: October 19th, 2009 11:09 PM
Author: frum magenta property messiness

I wouldn't say you have to dominate them or anything. But physical contact is credited. Put your hand on the small of her back when you want to lead her somewhere, brush her arm when you leave her for a second, start a date with a hug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13033523)



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Date: October 20th, 2009 9:28 AM
Author: rambunctious meetinghouse

tuesday morning bump for the xoxo virgins.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1115219&forum_id=2#13035843)