How bad is the stigma against early-mid 30s single women?
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 2:39 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
Who have never been married? If they do end up married, do people snigger behind their backs at the wedding ceremony about how it took them so long to seal the deal with someone?
Really. I'm curious about IRL here, not just virgin XO aspie basementdwelling opinion.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1976553&forum_id=2#20934315)
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 2:50 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
So you're single and 30s and have no friends that you talk to?
Do you notice that the only doods who are interested in you are like 45 year olds?
I'm sure people don't come up to you and make you feel like shit on a day to day basis, but don't you ever fear that if you do get married, people will say something like "she didn't get married until 36, she must be some shit pure shit woman, poor dood."
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 2:59 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
I'm in NYC.
A girl I was talking to had this legitimate concern. She is 31, turning 32 soon. She was contemplating moving back to her home (think city with a pro football team in flyover country) to meet a dood because she doesn't want to be one of these girls who gets married at 37.
She said she'd rather get married to the wrong dood in a year and just work hard to make things work than get married to the love of her life in 4-5 years and have the wedding announcement say she's 37 and that this is her first marriage.
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 3:16 AM Author: big rough-skinned roast beef
,..,,,,...,,,,...,,.,.,.,.,,., killing it ITT. women are trolled so easily
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 3:50 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
Yes.
If she really is 'beautiful' (and few women at that age can still be called 'beautiful'), people will wonder why she's still single. I've met a few chicks like this in my time and the first question on my mind is why the hell hasn't some dood voted with their feet to snap her up!
She will do very well if she limits her dating pool to 40+ doods - and she could catch a few great ones in this age group. Just like a 5'6" asian dood who is a banker and has all of the preftige points that Asians like will do very well with Asian women, the 30 year old 'beautiful' girl has to know her market, and that market is 40+ doods who don't want an immature 24 year old.
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 3:59 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
I say go for it, if only so you know what it feels like. You're now at an age where it's not creepy to go that much older, even if it's uncommon.
Dating a decade up isn't for every girl, but it's something you'll have to find out for yourself. Some girls prefer it, some girls can't deal with it, and some girls don't care one way or another.
My advice is not to knock something until you've tried it.
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 4:11 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
So here's your choice. WAIT to meet those guys that you're attracted to (which runs the risk of being single for longer), or downplay your need to be attracted to someone.
Think of things this way - Pick one of the following: having a 90% chance of getting married to a great dood within 2 years' time that you're not attracted to, or having a 40% chance of getting married within 8 years' time to an amazing dood who you're insanely attracted to and does everything for you.
I used to be a lawyer. I don't date that much. Maybe one or two dates a year. But I've had a few LTRs as well as shorter term relationships.
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 4:21 AM Author: Odious Infuriating Theater Giraffe
which option do you want to pursue? seems like you're advocating for the former, which means you don't have to be alone forever... or a more substantial period of your life.
I think you're right that you do have to love yourself, as cliche as that sounds, and in a way I'm really glad I chose to stay single for so long. Why? Chances are, given my issues, I would have been dumped/hurt & single soon enough anyway. Guys aren't going to stick around with crazy chicks, no matter how hot they may be - they can get OK looking, sane girls who aren't so much trouble. And guys don't like stressful girls... so looking at it pragmatically, it was prob for the best anyway. I feel like I learned a lot of things on my own though, so sometimes I wonder when my 'issues' are really solved and when I'm ready to date. I think at some point u just have to go for it though... at this point I feel willing to embrace my faults and accept the many skills and talents I do have, and need to just try the dating thing out again... I'm just scared as I'm starting as a first year associate.. it will be really time-consuming obv, intense, in an area of law I'm not even sure I'll like... i'm scared of the added stress of dating, but if I find the 'right guy' maybe (for once) he won't make things more stressful but rather support me. Worth a shot perhaps...?
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 4:43 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
It honestly sounds like you have a few issues you have to deal with. It's OK to be frustrated by the lack of eligible suitors coming in and out of your life, and it's OK to have some insecurities as to how aspects of your background will be perceived.
But it sounds like you have this lack of confidence about the 5 years you spent single since your last relationship and this is sabotaging your confidence. When I say that girls define themselves by their relationships, I meant not just romantic relationships. Who are your friends? Family? Colleagues? People you know through interest groups? You may be single, but you're not a hermit. Focus on the people that you know in day-to-day life who love you for who you are, faults and all. There are plenty of people out there who haven't been in a serious LTR in the past 5 years. I don't see that as weird, deviant, or indicative of a major character flaw. A lot of doods I know had never been in a serious LTR until they met the girl they ended up marrying.
Just don't think limiting thoughts. It's not eccentric to have not dated someone in 5 years. And no one is 'perfect' or 'normal'. Everyone has skeletons.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1976553&forum_id=2#20934523) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 3:31 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
I think that for as long as there is an age that is considered the drop-dead date for women, there will be words written (fictional or non) about women who approach and surpass this particular age.
The marriage plot was the driving force behind Austen's novels.
I agree that people are single for all different reasons, but I do think that among a certain subset of people (namely urban, professional women), the reasons why they are single at a certain age are very particular. There are always those girls who are always in relationships and those girls who are always single. The girls in relationships have something that the chronically single girls lack, and it isn't always looks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1976553&forum_id=2#20934416) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 3:46 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
Want to know my real opinion?
Being single has nothing to do with looks, age, personality (to some degree), cheerfulness, or your dating market value.
It has everything to do with two things: (1) how often you meet other eligible people and (2) your definition of eligible, i.e. what you want out of a relationship.
Someone who really values genuine compatibility as opposed to companionship and good values might have a harder time finding someone they really like. The girl that always falls into relationships may just really enjoy relationships and having a guy around. She may be able to catch feelings for a dood simply because he's interested in her and is a nice guy. Contrast that with another girl who might be 10x more attractive, but really needs to feel like a dood understands her and vice versa for her to catch feelings. Who's going to win the race to the altar?
We also can't lie about age and how important it is. Once a girl hits 30, she doesn't have the option of dating doods around her age, give or take 3-4 years. Many will already be in relationships and those who are still on the market will much prefer younger chicks. There are exceptions to this rule, but a 30 year old dood dating a 30 year old chick is like a 30 year old chick dating a 40 year old dood.
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 3:52 AM Author: Odious Infuriating Theater Giraffe
that's exactly it. I went for drinks with a girl friend of mine today and she endorsed this opinion as well... she basically said i need to lower expectations/not be picky and settle if i really want to marry within a few months or years, but it won't mean i'll be happy. It was really interesting though because I told her about how I rejected my ex-bf basically just because of the way he asked me out again (he messaged me assuming i was single, would just automatically go out with him again once he broke up with someone else... I don't know, i just felt it showed a lack of self-respect..) but she said considering he's good-looking, we had chemistry, and it wasn't a bad breakup, and that she had no other options (would be different if she did), she would have went for it. It just completely changed my view of dating - I never settled for a guy just because I had "no other options". I'm completely comfortable being on my own, because that's usually the default for me unless it's a guy that really catches my interest. But there's other girls (like her) that just think completely differently, prob the majority of girls, and it's so alien to my view of dating... I think if I want to be successful in finding a relationship I need to adopt her view.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1976553&forum_id=2#20934447) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 4:07 AM Author: Crimson bossy hospital
Think of things this way. Singlehood isn't terrible. It can make life very convenient if you're in a position where you have to make a lot of life-changing decisions. It's much easier to make these kinds of decisions if you don't have a SO to consult. And I think it's healthy for people to spend some time single so they can work on certain aspects of their life, especially if they need to get therapy to deal with a particular issue, or have certain goals they want to accomplish before they feel ready to undertake a relationship. You have to love yourself before you can be in a position to let someone else in your life, and if you're not in a position to love yourself then please stay single and deal with your shit alone until you can.
But being in a relationship - even a boring, fuss-free, kind of mundane one where the butterflies aren't there and sex is something to be endured - is much, much better than spending your later years alone. Not everyone gets the kind of relationship where you're still madly in love and fucking like rabbits until you're 80. Where you're genuinely the other person's best friend, and you two have this "you and me against the world" mentality. If that's what you want, be prepared to be single for a lot longer because that's much harder to find. Don't settle for someone emotionally abusive, but please do consider settling for the nice guy who may not light a fire in your heart but who does all of the little things right.
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 11:58 AM Author: Fragrant immigrant station
"There is a definite stigma to girls who aren't on a marriage track relationship by 31/32."
Absolutely, even in NYC. At the very least, you wonder why they aren't getting out of the house enough. Given internet dating where you can theoretically meet someone at 2 AM on a Wednesday night, there's no excuse. I can understand a decent girl being single at that age if she spent a year or two holed up in the 'burbs caring for a sick parent or if she spent a year deworming third world orphans, but not if she was living in NYC.
The biggest reason why people remain single is if they don't get lots of opportunities to meet new people. No excuse for that in NYC.
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 1:03 PM Author: splenetic razzle locale fat ankles
,..,,,,...,,,,...,,.,.,.,.,,., in the fight of his life to find a hot 33 year old woman who, in a state of desperation over her eggs, deign to touch his little pee pee.
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Date: June 22nd, 2012 11:06 PM Author: Anal spectacular knife
stigma maintained mostly by teens/<23 yo guys
otherwise, early 30 yo chicks are doing a-ok
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