Tucker Talks about Blake without Saying His Name
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Date: June 26th, 2026 9:08 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
Basically says that Charlie's death thrust Blake into a role he's not suited for and in which he has done a terrible job. But that he feels sad for him and sorry for him and knows how much pressure there must be. Doesn't talk shit or call him out for lying about his proximity to and with Charlie or for stabbing him in the back:
https://youtu.be/UxF-6puqdw4?t=7085
It's actually a pretty interesting segment starting a little before the 1:57 mark, where he makes the claim that Charlie felt about Israel very similarly to how Tucker feels currently
He also talks about whether he thinks Erika was a closeted Israel firster before Charlie's death:
https://youtu.be/UxF-6puqdw4?t=7204
The entire interview is worth listening to while jogging or gardening or cooking or whatever despite the interviewer being pretty fucking terrible (doesn't follow up on interesting answers or ask clarifying questions of interest almost ever)
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:34 AM Author: Consuela
i like the nuance of the statement: he thinks the turning point guys are in over their heads, not suited for the roles, didn't take the correct positions on iran and other things, yet that he has empathy for them on a personal level in the sense that they didn't quite choose this, that the role was thrust upon them. he says this without malice and without naming them personally
nice statement, makes me like tucker a bit more
his read on erika's motivation was surprising, she seems like a total nutjob based on her public persona
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:47 AM Author: smart ape
"Charlie was anti neocon"
Lol what? He was a YUGE neocon. He loved Trump and the establishment. He was pro Israel.
The idea that Charlie was going to become anti Israel and take the groyper pill is just crazy. Charlie was a Ted Cruz Republican and so was Tucker for most of his life until five minutes ago and so is Charles and Matt Walsh and countless other good goyim who support Israel and always have and always will. It's just plain crazy to assume that Charlie would have simply gone against the President just because. Charlie loved establishment Republicans, and he loved Israel.
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Date: June 27th, 2026 1:03 AM Author: smart ape
Didn't he die way before the Iran War? How could he be against it or are you saying he was against Operation Midnight Hammer? I forget when exactly he died.
So you really think this guy was anti Israel because he wrote a few things to a couple people questioning it? That made him anti Israel? He was extremely pro establishment his whole life but he had a few private questions about Israel and so that means he would have supported Thomas Massie and shit? I just don't think there's a ton of evidence that he was leaning that way.
MTG quit and Massie got expelled, Joe Kent resigned and Tucker made a huge shift after decades of being on top and being rich already and reading the tea leaves. Charlie would have had to give up all of his access to the President and forego his business and political empire in order to change sides. Just seems unlikely. And this is all just based on a couple of texts? I think the fact that TPUSA are all GOPe tells you everything you need to know about who Charlie was in life. Charles didn't stab him in the back, he continued the work. This is who Charlie was. He was the establishment guy, not the anti establishment guy. I'm sorry if this opinion hurts you.
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Date: June 27th, 2026 1:12 AM Author: Ape Arrogance
yes, Midnight Hammer, which was in June (he died in September). even if you don't consider that to be the start of the war, he was against war with Iran in general. he said so publicly and vehemently. I shouldn't have initially phrased it as "the Iran war" when I actually meant "war with Iran" - I edited right away after I realized that was poor wording.
I absolutely do find it likely that he was starting to turn against Israel based on the facts I laid out. not "anti Israel." I never said he was "anti Israel" at the time of his death, nor did you mention that in your initial response. you said it was crazy to think he "was going to become anti Israel." I feel like a 40 iq Redditor using the phrase "moving the goalposts" but it's what you do CONSTANTLY and it's what you did here. it's easy to forget how smart you are.
I have no idea what you're trying to say with the third paragraph, and I don't think you know either, because that was a mess.
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Date: June 27th, 2026 1:33 AM Author: smart ape
My point is that ok even if he had some anti war or anti Isreal sentiment can we at least agree that everything else in his life between his career and all the people he associated with and the number one backing of his good fortune, the President, were all GOPe to the hilt?
We will never know exactly what he would have thought or done or said. But his misgivings about the war and about Israel real though they may be just don't stack up to the mountain that was his link to the establishment. It's like throwing a pencil at Kilimanjaro. Yeah maybe if he hadn't died he would have continued down the more radical anti establishment path. Maybe. We'll never know.
But just look at Blake and Erika and the other guy. Not born to go against the grain. Not a dyed in the wool contrarian. He banned groypers from all his events because of their anti Israel stance I mean come on. It's speculation to say for certain that he would have overturned the apple cart. You can't ignore the absolutely massive amount of data that he was a lifelong establishment shill. It would have taken more than a few strongly worded text messages to turn his back on his entire life and identify and all of his business and life partners.
Here's a much more likely scenario if Charlie had really been personally tweaked about Iran and Israel. He probably would have done what Jeff Sachs, Joe Kent and JD Vance have been doing. Nominally support the President but distance themselves quietly from the unpopular war, and just kind of keep a lid on it and live to fight the next battle. That's what establishment guys are doing right now. You realize that's the opposite of what Massie did right? Massie went nuclear on the party. Charlie was not going to be the big whistle blower. He may have been a quiet dissenter.
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Date: June 27th, 2026 8:37 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface
I don't know the dude and don't think he was a Christ like figure or singular genius or anything. But "his whole life" was short. Barely out of the developmental stage. He had enough proximity to power to realize the fraud far earlier than most of us in our lives, and it seems very clear that he had decided on certain anti-establishment principles towards the end that he was not going to compromise
You simply cannot be a neocon if you don't believe in the kinetic projection of American foreign policy (Israeli firstism). You cannot even be part of the establishment if you don't believe that
It seems objectively true that, whatever his earlier beliefs, he was no longer in the Middle East diplomacy through war camp when he was killed. He was also pretty convincingly feeling that Israeli-driven foreign policy was not just a problem, but a serious impediment to what is best for America. This is all supported by texts and actions taken by Charlie in the months before he died, and Tucker says as much in this clip by saying that Charlie's views on Israel by the time of his death were essentially where Tucker is now
I don't know what's true. I don't know the guy. But something seems to have changed with him before he was killed. My suspicion is that any smart and even moderately principled person with direct access to the mid-level management (POTUS, senators, wealthy donors, etc.) will either shrink away from the evilness of the corruption or become part of it
We know he was shifting. And we know it was in a way that removed money, ratcheted up pressure, etc. You'd have to be crazy to think it was to embrace the establishment. And it took about as little time as you could hope for from someone of his age and level of dependency on NOT seeing the problems, let alone coming out against them
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