EDIT: student sent campus-wide email including pictures of his car's slashed up soft top.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7833459)

First Cassady and Green investigate it, then they send it to McCoy who prosecutes it, then Arthur Branch says something witty. That's how it goes, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7833607)

No. No they haven't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7833627)

emphasis added

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834031)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834829)

wranglers are hot, manly cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7835182)

Are they sure it wasn't a transient?

And by a transient, I mean a scorned lover.

And by a scored lover, I mean ICE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834288)

yes means in the butt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7837644)

There is no way Skeletor didnt get that email and think of XOXO.

We know you are not fixing your roof!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7845588)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834285)

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=29897&pid=1571

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7839705)

130.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834131)

March 27, 2007

To the University Community:

Washington and Lee University prides itself on traditions centered

around honor and civility. Our mission asserts "the importance of

the individual, personal honor and integrity [and] harmonious

relationships with others." Members of our community have recently

raised concerns about actions directed toward gay and lesbian

students inconsistent with those values.

As we use our campus conduct processes to investigate, understand

and determine what has happened, many in our community feel

vulnerable and question our ability to live up to what we believe. I

write to remind everyone of what we stand for; and I write to

encourage a dialogue that speaks to our fundamental commitments to

civility and tolerance. I write also to remind students who have

concerns about any specific actions to speak with a CAIR resource,

the Associate Dean for Student Services at the Law School, Dean of

the Law School or any member of our Dean of Students' Office staff,

or any member of this administration. All are prepared to connect

students with the appropriate University resources and to assist

with using the University's conduct system as appropriate.

I abhor acts of violence and aggression toward others no matter the

motivation. When those occur, we will carefully and deliberately

gather facts and adhere to the highest standards of due process. And

as our community discussions move forward, I hope they remind us

that the strength of this community depends upon the shared virtues

of tolerance, respect, and fairness.

Kenneth P. Ruscio, President

Dear Students:

By now, you have received President Ruscio's message to the student body. I wish to affirm his statement entirely and make totally clear that the administration of the law school under no circumstances condones hateful speech or hateful behavior of any kind. Specifically, there can be no place for taunting, mean-spirited, derisive comments or actions against our own students or anyone else. It is unacceptable for anyone aspiring to be an attorney and officer of the court to engage in callous attempts to demean others and thereby isolate and exclude them from the University's educational mission and community. I called yesterday's meeting in order to raise the question of intolerance and incivility at Washington and Lee, and to begin a public dialogue. I did not want to comment on a specific incident out of due process concerns, and I will not comment about the incident here, now that official processes are underway. We must respect due process as one of our core values too, and I ask you to remember that. At the same time, let us underscore the point that we are a community, and we should not let discriminatory behavior mar the fabric of the law school. Thanks to all of you who have taken part in the dialogue thus far; please continue to do so, as we strive to live up to the values of the University. Please, if you have information relating to incidents of insult or intimidation based on sexual orientation, race, gender, or any of our protected categories, let the administration know. Please come forward and help us improve the nature of our atmosphere for all our students. This is a learning environment, and we strongly wish it to be free of discrimination in any and all forms. We have adjudicative processes to respond, and they need to be used. Aside from these processes, we all need to respond to instances of discriminatory behavior that we witness. To our majority students, I would say: help shoulder this responsibility by objecting to language and actions that you hear or see and that violate the values of the University.

Brian C. Murchison

Acting Dean

Fellow students and administrators:

I am horrified that the administration has allowed this situation to escalate to this point. Rather than a call to action against homophobia and violence, the administration called a forum so we could discuss our feelings about "inclusiveness." I am FURIOUS that a law school in the top 25 would accept so-called "professional" students that act in such a dehumanizing and disgraceful manner.

For those of you who don't believe it, well you better start believing that this is the reality of being gay at W&L. Yes, two openly-gay people were physically assaulted last weekend. Open your eyes beyond the haze of the law school social scene. If someone attacked your child, mother, father, brother sister, how would you feel? If someone attacked someone of color, would you feel more obligated to say something then? This is absolutely unacceptable, and something needs to be done. For those of you from religious backgrounds who disagree morally with homosexuality, I am not asking for a change in your position. However, no matter what the situation, an environment of violence should NOT be tolerated. At no point did God or Jesus ever preach violence to his people. Only peace, love, and understanding.

I ask you all to stand in support of the LGBT community now. When you hear derogatory comments about gay people, have the courage and the voice (that law school should be teaching you to have!) to tell that person to think before they speak. Violence against the gay community affects our academic, social, and family lives, and I ask the student body to remember that it is hard enough to be gay in today's world, to come out openly to ones probably also religious family, without having the additional strain of constant judgment by fellow students and the apprehension of physical attack.

With kindest regards,

[REDACTED]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834245)

What a douchebag. Great job bringing up your school's ranking in a protest letter. I can only assume that the first draft of the letter said "top 22", but once the 2008 US News rankings were known, it had to be edited to "top 25."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834796)

He said "DING! Fag."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834313)

I can't read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834325)

He probably could read the "hate crime free zone" sign in the school parking lot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834429)

NNNNNAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834323)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834677)

Or, rather, they would.

If anyone there could read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834688)

the subject matter of the argument was about being gay

the "attacker" has a reputation for being less than tolerant about such issues

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7834883)

...NOW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7835168)

After the tournament, you guessed it, there is more drinking and a live band where the tournament took place in front of the school. Most people go to afterparties, and the incident happened at one of the Dean's Cup after parties.

The fight didn't happen until about 2am, and by that point, everyone involved was completely hammered. I know the people who fought, and they were both very intoxicated.

It was very simple: two people who were shit-housed started running their mouths and it escalated. Nothing more, nothing less. It was not because one of the people is gay. In fact, the openly gay students at W&L are treated exactly like everyone else. If you're a douchebag, you're treated like a douchebag. If you're friendly and modest, you are respected. Anyone who attended or attends the law school can attest to that. Even the students who came to the admitted students weekend probably picked up on it.

It's unfortunate that anytime a fight or something like what happened occurs it mushrooms into some huge controversy if one of the participants were gay or different in some way. Who cares? Part of treating everyone equally includes taking things at face value, and at face value what happened is exactly what I described above, nothing but two drunk idiots running their mouths and throwing punches. Nothing more, and nothing less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7836984)

The point is that people aren't perfect. They aren't perfect anywhere, not Harvard law school, not a homeless shelter, nowhere. I completely stick by what I stated earlier.

In all of my extensive experience with W&L I have witnessed nothing but homosexuals being treated the same as everyone else. There are numerous people, gay, straight, white, asian, indian, female, male who people simply do not like because they are not likable people. There are gay people at W&L who I am sure fit that profile, and that could very well explain some of the incidents below.

As I said before, people are people, regardless of where they are, and one common trait that exists among virtually all of us, no matter the culture or era, is that they point out differences during confrontations to belittle the other person. Just like people are made fun of for being gay, they are made fun of for being fat, ugly, black, asian, Jewish, white, bald, slutty, etc. etc.

If you don't like this fact, you might as well buy a horse and move to the mountains, because no matter where you go, you are going to have to deal with human defects.

Below, a brief list of incidents brought to the attention of W&L within the last few years.

* At a social gathering, one student had food thrown at him/her and was called a "F-ing dyke"

* The pervasive use by students and staff of the terms "gay" and "fag" as synonyms for "stupid" or "lame."

* Repeated questions in crowded social gatherings regarding homosexual sex such as: "How do gays/lesbians have sex? Isn't sex just gross for you?" and "How can you do that?" The invariable response to any reply is: "Man, that's just gross" or "Gay people can't really have sex."

* Blatant homophobic comments such as: "homosexuals are immoral."

* Several weeks ago, a group of undergraduates with a house adjacent to the school hung a large banner, visible to passing traffic, which read, "Honk If Dan Is Gay."

* Immediately prior to Spring Break at the Fitness Center, several groups of students moved to the area where an openly gay student was working out, and began discussing which of them was the gayest. The conversation elevated to the point where the students were shouting "faggot" at one another in voices loud enough to be heard anywhere in the facility. Despite the presence of University employees throughout the facility, none of the men were addressed regarding their actions. The student has since been forced to reschedule his workouts in order to avoid his harassers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7837326)

That is all.

Date: March 29th, 2007 1:21 PM

Author: anonymous08L

Subject: Yeah, welcome to people.

First of all, you've listed six total incidents over "a few years." If you go to any workplace, school, public meeting place, or even church (of any denomination), you are going to find at least as many, if not more, events that are similar to what you listed below.

The point is that people aren't perfect. They aren't perfect anywhere, not Harvard law school, not a homeless shelter, nowhere. I completely stick by what I stated earlier.

In all of my extensive experience with W&L I have witnessed nothing but homosexuals being treated the same as everyone else. There are numerous people, gay, straight, white, asian, indian, female, male who people simply do not like because they are not likable people. There are gay people at W&L who I am sure fit that profile, and that could very well explain some of the incidents below.

As I said before, people are people, regardless of where they are, and one common trait that exists among virtually all of us, no matter the culture or era, is that they point out differences during confrontations to belittle the other person. Just like people are made fun of for being gay, they are made fun of for being fat, ugly, black, asian, Jewish, white, bald, slutty, etc. etc.

If you don't like this fact, you might as well buy a horse and move to the mountains, because no matter where you go, you are going to have to deal with human defects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7837748)

Note what is missing from this list:

african american and hispanic

No wonders you went to W&L law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838223)

Below, a brief list of incidents brought to the attention of W&L within the last few years.

* At a social gathering, one student had food thrown at him/her and was called a "F-ing dyke"

* The pervasive use by students and staff of the terms "gay" and "fag" as synonyms for "stupid" or "lame."

* Repeated questions in crowded social gatherings regarding homosexual sex such as: "How do gays/lesbians have sex? Isn't sex just gross for you?" and "How can you do that?" The invariable response to any reply is: "Man, that's just gross" or "Gay people can't really have sex."

* Blatant homophobic comments such as: "homosexuals are immoral."

* Several weeks ago, a group of undergraduates with a house adjacent to the school hung a large banner, visible to passing traffic, which read, "Honk If Dan Is Gay."

* Immediately prior to Spring Break at the Fitness Center, several groups of students moved to the area where an openly gay student was working out, and began discussing which of them was the gayest. The conversation elevated to the point where the students were shouting "faggot" at one another in voices loud enough to be heard anywhere in the facility. Despite the presence of University employees throughout the facility, none of the men were addressed regarding their actions. The student has since been forced to reschedule his workouts in order to avoid his harassers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7837249)

this is pretty pervasive among america's young ppl, closely followed by the use of "ghetto" to mean something subpar.

remember, calling something lame demeans the handicapable.

I guess things should be referred to as either cool or uncool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7837308)

If this is the "victim," please keep in mind that if you do sue, any settlement will be financed through a raise in the tuition of students who had no part in this incident.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7837422)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7837531)

In the strictest sense, homophobia means fear of homosexuals. Granted, it more commonly connotes general lack of tolerance towards homosexuals. But even under the more expansive definition, how in the world can an expression of personal opinion about the morality of homosexuality be considered homophobic? I thought the whole point of the gay rights movement was that "morality" should be defined individually and not by society. It seems quite reasonable for an individual to personally find homosexuality "immoral" while at the same time tolerating it and exhibiting no fear or animosity towards gays.

OK I'll get down off my strict-textualist soapbox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7837502)

hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7837527)

Gay at W&L = stupid

Not to put to fine a point on things, but going to W&L if you are a non-log cabin republican homosexual (I am sure right wing homosexual would be fine) makes about as much sense as going to Berkely if you are a Regent/Liberty U. evangelical. Not that it should be prohibited or anything like that, but W&L is not south beach/castro friendly and a flamboynat person would stand out and not in a good way. Anyone who willingly subjects themself to this is clearly stupid or did absolutely no research prior to attenting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838130)

You think W&L is bad try Bob Jones/Regent/Liberty/BYU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838206)

As for UCBerk, Boalt is a much larger law school that is part of a huge university with something for everyone, including the blazered and minked.

Date: March 29th, 2007 3:35 PM

Author: easydater

Do you think the republican kids wearing blue blazers [or mink coats] at Cal get treated any better?

You think W&L is bad try Bob Jones/Regent/Liberty/BYU.

Date: March 29th, 2007 3:20 PM

Author: easydater

The pervasive use by students and staff of the terms "gay" and "fag" as synonyms for "stupid" or "lame."

Gay at W&L = stupid

Not to put to fine a point on things, but going to W&L if you are a non-log cabin republican homosexual (I am sure right wing homosexual would be fine) makes about as much sense as going to Berkely if you are a Regent/Liberty U. evangelical. Not that it should be prohibited or anything like that, but W&L is not south beach/castro friendly and a flamboynat person would stand out and not in a good way. Anyone who willingly subjects themself to this is clearly stupid or did absolutely no research prior to attenting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838649)

I dont know anything about W&L, but gays shouldnt be discouraged from attending the best school they got into just because other people can't control themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843462)

Secrecy is what allows things like this to continue to happen.

For those that do not know, the school works like this:

Person screws up or is accused of it.

Everyone knows that person screw up or is at least accused of it, but they do not really talk about it.

Honor board or judicial committee says person, "you screwed up, guity or not, withdraw now and transfer with our help and no one will no about it. Go to a hearing and we will ruin you for life."

Person leaves. Everyone knows the person left and assume the worst, but there is no record of it.

Person's name is posted under a notice that says So and So withdrew prior to hearing.

Life goes on in old Lex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838080)

Date: March 29th, 2007 3:10 PM

Author: easydater

STFH

Secrecy is what allows things like this to continue to happen.

For those that do not know, the school works like this:

Person screws up or is accused of it.

Everyone knows that person screw up or is at least accused of it, but they do not really talk about it.

Honor board or judicial committee says person, "you screwed up, guity or not, withdraw now and transfer with our help and no one will no about it. Go to a hearing and we will ruin you for life."

Person leaves. Everyone knows the person left and assume the worst, but there is no record of it.

Person's name is posted under a notice that says So and So withdrew prior to hearing.

Life goes on in old Lex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838737)

I am a 1L, and while I personally have been shaken by the rumors and events that have come to our attention this week, and while I am usually the first to blame it on the dixie culture(this is the furthest South I've ever been), I have been encouraged by the openness and willingness on the part of the administration to participate in dialogues and keep the student body abreast of information. I do not agree, at all, that the law school has been secretive. It is just simply untrue.

It cannot be emphasized enough that the two acts of violence (three, if you count the vandalism) that have been alleged to have been motivated by bigotry are currently undergoing investigation by the school. For those of you who don't go here, W&L Law is tiny (size of student body and also, literally, the size of the building), and we all know each other. Intimately. In order for our investigatory and judicial processes to work fairly, or to work at all, it is ESSENTIAL that individual privacy and confidentiality be respected. I would like to remind all law students and would-be law students on this board that to declare that an individual has committed an act of violence against another motivated by homophobic beliefs, before any investigation is complete and before any sort of hearing has taken place, is grounds for a libel action. On a personal note, if you want to ruin a fellow student's reputation through slanderous anonymous (read: cowardly) postings, take it somewhere else. That is not what this school is about.

As all of the W&L Law Students know, but as I'd like to share with the rapt audience on this board, "two local juvenile suspects" (read: not W&L students) have been identified in connection with the vandalism of the W&L student's car. Our Dean has just sent an update. I'm sure investigations will be ongoing.

While I completely understand, and share, the outrage and fear that the alleged events of last weekend - and this past semester - have raised, I feel the need to adamantly emphasize that this board or any like it are NOT the appropriate forums to channel that energy. The law deans have been amazing about meeting/speaking with any student who wants to express concern/ideas/etc re: these incidents, and both faculty and students are organizing to address the issue of bias/hate on a community level. Get involved. I think that whether or not it turns out that the bias incidents/attacks alleged are actually rooted in discriminatory and hateful behavior, that W&L Law now has an obligation to address these issues, and I truly believe that they are attempting to do so. If you think I'm wrong, email a dean. A great thing about going to a school this small is that the administrators will make the time to talk to you.

Finally, I just want to emphasize the hypocrisy of violating the trust of our community by posting emails and (false) "facts" on this board and then declaring a dissatisfaction with the state of the school's treatment of gay/lesbian/bi students. If you actually cared about the culture/climate of the school, you would put your efforts into improving it; and one of the ways, probably the most important way, to do so is by encouraging tolerant and diverse students to come to W&L Law. Posting unsubstantiated accusations not only of certain students, but of the student body in general, is completely antithetical to a desire for change.

I encourage any other law students who would like to represent the true nature of our school to prospectives to post accordingly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838065)

Anti gay bigotry = bad

Anti black bigotry = good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838156)

Elaborate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838683)

Its not what your school is about, but it is what xoxo is about. Welcome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838696)

This board is a public, open discussion. If you don't like it, don't read it.

You are a 1L. You know nothing about libel or what constitutes libel. Go back to your Gilbert's outline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838723)

www.reputationdefender.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7838844)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7839748)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7840413)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843734)

Edit: The poster above was under the impression that the university didn't have any weekly publications, I thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843770)

Ladies and Gentlemen:

In reference to my letter of Tuesday, this past weekend an alleged assault occurred involving two law students, one of whom was gay. A criminal complaint was filed with the city and its proceedings are underway.

I write once again to affirm our commitment to a community of inclusion and tolerance. Our actions and response as a University are always guided by concerns for members of the community and respect for individual rights.

Immediately after the incident was reported to us, the University investigated and the matter is now in the hands of a university conduct body.

The student who reported this incident also reported that the convertible top to his automobile had been slashed sometime Monday night. Lexington police have initiated proceedings against two suspects accused of this vandalism who have no affiliation with Washington and Lee.

Again, the University is emphatic that we will not tolerate acts that contradict our fundamental values. We have confidence our internal conduct processes will reflect the long-standing commitment of the University to fairness and civility. The University will remain engaged in ongoing dialogue about fulfilling our highest aspirations.

Thank you.

Ken

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7840558)

Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843684)

please tell me you did not take it literally. oh wait...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843724)

i don't think law students care about the undergrad's conservative rep, we just want our school to not be a place where things like this happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7842802)

don't you think the best test of how much hostility towards gays there is at this university is how the gays themselves feel? rather than how YOU feel about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843084)

I have nothing to do with this, and am very LGBT-friendly myself, but it's worth pointing out that the answer to your question is a RESOUNDING "no." God help us all, this is the worst conceivable way to EVER test such a concept, because what it invariably results in is oversensitive minorities hijacking all discourse and bending it to fit their own ridiculously particular standards. This is perfectly analogous to Muslims enforcing an ad hoc ban upon printing images of Mohammed (and receiving liberal cover for rioting and murder) because THEY felt it was offensive to their religion. Well too bad, touchy Muslim doods, that doesn't mean that the rest of the world has any reason to find such a thing offensive. You're just going to have grin and bear it if you enjoy living in the Western world.

So no, the opinion of how gay people feel is of no particular value in deciding how "hostile" an environment is towards gays, and is in fact more likely to be one of the worst possible measures of such. The proper test would be a quasi-objective "community standards" test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843598)

if you don't think it's prevalent, then why do the gay students here feel intimidated and/or scared? are they just being irrational? you must know a lot better than them what it feels like right, being a white straight male?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843397)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843814)

I hear it's the w&l way for straight white males to cover each others backs</i>

Wow. Good thing we don't have an axe to grind.

Frankly, why so much hostility toward people you've probably never met and have no real knowledge of? That sounds like real prejudice right there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7899947)

XXXXXXX, a Wahington & Lee law student, is a gay & Miata torturer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843422)

it's pretty clear that the incident wasn't isolated. i'm not saying everyone here hates gays. and i don't even know if i'd characterize hostility towards the LGBT community here as "prevalent" but i DO thing that the best indicator of that would be how the LGBT community itself feels. and i don't think they're very comfortable right now at our school. and that is unfortunate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843502)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843751)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843844)

Teens Who Taped Themselves In Vandalism Cases Arrested

Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:15 PM CDT

You can’t double your fun when it comes to crime.

A group of Rockbridge County teenagers were apparently trying to do something along those lines by videotaping their vandalism spree over the past several months that spread throughout Lexington, Buena Vista and the county.

The fun ended last Tuesday, March 27, when Lt. Darrell Slagle of the Buena Vista Police Department responded to a reckless driving report on 23rd Street. Not only were the juveniles allegedly driving recklessly, but they were taping themselves in the act.

When Buena Vista Investigator Randy Chittum played the tape, he said he discovered the juveniles had also been spending time shoplifting from local retail stores, cruising for unlocked vehicles and bragging about stealing cars. They had been breaking vehicle windows, ____cutting convertible tops____ and rummaging through unlocked vehicles, all for the camera, he said.

“The vandals were caught … on tape,” Buena Vista Police Capt. A.J Panebianco said. The tape helped Buena Vista police together with investigators from Lexington Police Department and the county sheriff’s office clear over $50,000 in recent vandalism cases from the books from all three jurisdictions. “It was textbook police work and cooperation,” Panebianco said.

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Multiple charges are pending against at least five teens, both young men and women, as the investigation continues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7843991)

I think the important thing here is that will I be able to get a job? Why is the placement so TTT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7901426)

The issue was resolved by the two students. They've worked things out and nothing is going to happen with the "attacker" - no expulsion or anything like that. I know both guys and they are both pretty cool people.

While I don't know specifics, probably can chalk it up to drunken stupidity and a misunderstanding from some unrelated incident that was thought to be related in the immediate aftermath (the car slashing).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=603763&forum_id=2#7920738)