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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/21/20
Why did you delete this?
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/21/20
For this who missed it the first time: https://i.ibb.co/t...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/21/20
lmao she comes so close to some kind of an anagnorisis, t...
Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party
  07/21/20
That's a great word. I'm literally ESL. What is she sayin...
Well-lubricated garrison mad cow disease
  07/21/20
she's rejecting the implication that she might have any agen...
Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party
  07/21/20
Ty. Womens lib has been such a huge negative influence but t...
Well-lubricated garrison mad cow disease
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Maroon bawdyhouse
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Frum harsh ratface ticket booth
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Lavender razzle boistinker
  07/21/20
By definition, a sociologist cannot be over-educated.
charismatic mildly autistic property goyim
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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/21/20
Dr. Darwin @HelanaDarwin · 3h I am super open to ...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/21/20
This will also be the type of women who believes house-hold ...
Well-lubricated garrison mad cow disease
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Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party
  07/21/20
she's right about Start Ur Own Business being boomer flame (...
Histrionic pontificating pervert
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dark bateful native affirmative action
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angry knife
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This has to do with the debasement of universities and the c...
Balding Talented Quadroon
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provocative territorial crackhouse
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Johnstone Ekaru @EkaruJohnstone Replying to @HelanaDarwi...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
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provocative territorial crackhouse
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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/21/20
lol
dark bateful native affirmative action
  07/21/20
srsly?
provocative territorial crackhouse
  07/21/20
lmao he is 100% accurate thouh for academia you need to b...
wonderful underhanded parlor
  07/21/20
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1235585586624450562/cL1...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/21/20
lmao
provocative territorial crackhouse
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First generation college bound students terrified to receive...
Balding Talented Quadroon
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provocative territorial crackhouse
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Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
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obsidian pit gunner
  07/21/20
"en par" lmao
bisexual pale locale
  07/21/20
Dr. Darwin @HelanaDarwin · 3h #Trans friends, I...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/21/20
She got absolutely torched in DMs with a trans-activist-domm...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/21/20
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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/21/20
i have no idea what they are saying in those DMs
cerise aromatic abode
  07/23/20
She made some comment about men's penises being threatening ...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/23/20
If it's penis-havers, rather than men, who are potential rap...
bisexual pale locale
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Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
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kathleen kuehn @kathleenkr · Jul 21 Replying to ...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/22/20
But, but... consider NZ?
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/22/20
it's narcissism
passionate forum french chef
  07/22/20
of course this would be more convincing if xo hadn't spent t...
Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party
  07/22/20
"We need to like care about like disparate impact and i...
Bonkers diverse space
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Seth ☧ @seth586 · 5h Replying to @HelanaDar...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/22/20
I think she deleted the post. Sad! Hilariously, it was the t...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/23/20
Dr. Darwin @HelanaDarwin For the benefit of trans people w...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/23/20
this is every woman by her mid 20s
Impressive range halford
  07/23/20
Well this is somewhat unexpected. She's got an XO marriage! ...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/23/20
holy shit @ this comment. everything about it is amazing
Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party
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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/23/20
strong odds that the 14-years-older "hubby" is a t...
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Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
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dark bateful native affirmative action
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https://twitter.com/HelanaDarwin/status/1183749451132952577
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
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Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker
  07/23/20
kinda hot actually
Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party
  07/23/20
Maybe if you find cultural appropriation attractive, WRONGTH...
Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig
  07/23/20


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Date: July 21st, 2020 11:05 AM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639002)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 8:54 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

Why did you delete this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40641989)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 9:10 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

For this who missed it the first time:

https://i.ibb.co/tKjVyKZ/1595343737601.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40642068)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 11:07 AM
Author: Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party

lmao

she comes so close to some kind of an anagnorisis, then turns off at the last exit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639014)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 11:10 AM
Author: Well-lubricated garrison mad cow disease

That's a great word.

I'm literally ESL. What is she saying about individual discourse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639024)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 11:13 AM
Author: Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party

she's rejecting the implication that she might have any agency for anything bad that ever happens to her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639036)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 11:18 AM
Author: Well-lubricated garrison mad cow disease

Ty. Womens lib has been such a huge negative influence but they'll refuse to acknowledge that too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639060)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:57 AM
Author: Maroon bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40644158)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 10:19 AM
Author: Frum harsh ratface ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648668)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 11:15 AM
Author: Lavender razzle boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639043)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 11:16 AM
Author: charismatic mildly autistic property goyim

By definition, a sociologist cannot be over-educated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639047)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 11:19 AM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639071)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:30 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

Dr. Darwin

@HelanaDarwin

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3h

I am super open to leads and advice on how to pursue work outside of academia. But I do not enjoy math, so qual methods preferred. And “start your own business” advice will never appeal to me, as someone who watched both of my self-employed parents struggle w the hustle for life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639382)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:34 PM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639403)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:37 PM
Author: Well-lubricated garrison mad cow disease

This will also be the type of women who believes house-hold chores are beneathe her.

"I have a phd".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639410)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:40 PM
Author: Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639426)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 1:06 PM
Author: Histrionic pontificating pervert

she's right about Start Ur Own Business being boomer flame (for people who don't have successful parents to show them the ropes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639590)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 1:07 PM
Author: dark bateful native affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639597)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 1:41 PM
Author: angry knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40649753)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:32 PM
Author: Balding Talented Quadroon

This has to do with the debasement of universities and the commodification of degrees and credentialism. I would wager that major academic achievement has been sucked out of the system now as these degrees have become increasingly worthless and talismanic - so even though someone may have advanced degree's they are fucking DUMB and lack practical life skills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639394)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:46 PM
Author: provocative territorial crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639455)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:51 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

Johnstone Ekaru

@EkaruJohnstone

Replying to

@HelanaDarwin

Okay. We gotta be honest with each other here. You hold non-STEM degrees from third rate institutions. Honestly, even with a PhD, you’ll find it hard. At the very least, top 50/100 QS ranked unis would get you somewhere.

2:16 PM · Jul 20, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639485)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:52 PM
Author: provocative territorial crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639490)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:52 PM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639492)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:54 PM
Author: dark bateful native affirmative action

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639501)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 12:57 PM
Author: provocative territorial crackhouse

srsly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639518)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 1:04 PM
Author: wonderful underhanded parlor

lmao he is 100% accurate thouh

for academia you need to be like top 10 to 15 program.ranking, plus stem, plus publications to get a decent job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40639571)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 5:39 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1235585586624450562/cL1vlbtd_400x400.jpg

He ranks higher than she does on the grievance scale (see photo), so she answered him politely (see below). If it had been a white dude I'm sure he would've been permabanned:

Dr. Darwin

@HelanaDarwin

·

Jul 20

Replying to

@EkaruJohnstone

I wouldn’t call Stony Brook third rate. It’s an R1 en par with UC Davis. I agree that pedigree matters but I take issue with the individualism in your framing. First gen ppl may not have the guts to apply to Ivies even if they have the GPA and that limits every school thereafter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40641047)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 5:40 PM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40641051)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: provocative territorial crackhouse

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40641052)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:21 PM
Author: Balding Talented Quadroon

First generation college bound students terrified to receive free, almost instantaneous admission any ivy of their choosing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40641575)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:39 PM
Author: provocative territorial crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40641654)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 8:54 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40641986)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 9:26 PM
Author: obsidian pit gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40642158)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 9:55 PM
Author: bisexual pale locale

"en par"

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40642256)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 9:13 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

Dr. Darwin

@HelanaDarwin

·

3h

#Trans friends, I am sorry that I omitted the “cis” prefix in a recent tweet referring to the threat of penises during rape interrogations. I should have said cismen, not men. I accept accountability for my words and their impact and am open to you pointing out when I cisslip

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40642088)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 9:19 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

She got absolutely torched in DMs with a trans-activist-domme.

https://twitter.com/MistressSnowPhD/status/1285697582174474240?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40642116)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 9:22 PM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40642140)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 9:38 AM
Author: cerise aromatic abode

i have no idea what they are saying in those DMs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648527)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 11:21 AM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

She made some comment about men's penises being threatening and the trans-activists lost their shit over the fact that she didn't specify "cis men" since of course as we all know, trans men don't have penises!

(Or "cismen"--there was also a separate blowup over her not putting the space in there. Really.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648989)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 9:58 PM
Author: bisexual pale locale

If it's penis-havers, rather than men, who are potential rapists, then shouldn't she have said "cis men and non-op trans women"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40642273)



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Date: July 21st, 2020 11:28 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40642777)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:39 AM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

kathleen kuehn

@kathleenkr

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Jul 21

Replying to

@HelanaDarwin

1) academia is a hamster wheel that no matter what your position/pay grade/pub list, you'll always feel 2nd rate (well, if yr a woman); 2) you have kids? you didnt do your 20s wrong...

3) I'm 42, childless, divorced, still paying student loans, full time Uni senior lecturer AND teach yoga 15+ hrs/wk to eat/use my heat pump when i want. That's literally my extravagance; 4) Your work is fab; 5) Consider NZ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40644078)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:57 AM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40644155)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:07 AM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

But, but... consider NZ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40644195)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:08 AM
Author: passionate forum french chef

it's narcissism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40644201)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:05 AM
Author: Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party

of course this would be more convincing if xo hadn't spent the last 15 years whining that a 169 LSAT score and "T14" degree didn't guarantee us all chill 30 hour per week partnerships with plenty of golfing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40644181)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:06 AM
Author: Bonkers diverse space

"We need to like care about like disparate impact and inequality"

"Yeah like the disparate impact and inequality created by credentialism. Like at universities."

"REEEEEEE"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40644190)



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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:06 AM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

Seth ☧

@seth586

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5h

Replying to

@HelanaDarwin

This is why

You have no skills that provide value to others

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdhaboHWoAAyYGr.jpg



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40644191)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 9:14 AM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

I think she deleted the post. Sad! Hilariously, it was the trannies who finally got her, not all the people pointing out that her "PhD" is a useless credential when it's in sociology from a TTT.

....

Dr. Darwin

@HelanaDarwin

I wasn’t going to post anything today, but I can’t stand the thought of being bullied into silence. The most agonizing part of the sexual abuse I experienced during my PhD program was the intimidation and silence. I am entitled to my voice. My challenge is to do minimum harm w it

9:30 AM · Jul 22, 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648414)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 9:19 AM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

Dr. Darwin

@HelanaDarwin

For the benefit of trans people who didn’t already unfollow me- I want to repeat and emphasize that I am truly sorry I wrote a tweet that conflated gender with genitalia. It was careless and it hurt you. And I am sorry. I hope you accept my apology so we can move forward. (1/4)

People have mentioned my defensiveness. I cannot be convinced that this person who screenshotted my old tweet & then a DM between us was acting out of a space of caring abt trans rights. She derailed my tweet w a personal attack for fun. I defended myself against a bully. (2/4)

And while I am truly sorry about the cissexism in the offensive tweet, I take issue with the fairly massive accusation of transphobia based on a linguistic slip. Hence why I asked if the accuser had read my work. I think it’s clear that I am not transphobic. They hadn’t. (3/4)

I am grateful to people who point out when I mess up, if it isn’t done performatively and centered around the public shaming of me and discrediting my corpus. None of this is going to help trans rights. That’s all ego.

I am sorry. AND I can’t keep groveling. Both are true (4/4)

4:58 PM · Jul 22, 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648441)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 9:26 AM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648479)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 9:20 AM
Author: Impressive range halford

this is every woman by her mid 20s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648443)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 9:29 AM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

Well this is somewhat unexpected. She's got an XO marriage!

Bouillabaisse Sky

@Bouilla44451856

·

15h

Is your concern, at the moment, a financial one, or more one of being productively occupied?

Dr. Darwin

@HelanaDarwin

Replying to

@Bouilla44451856

Not financial. Hubby's a good earner. I'd like to have a plan for financial independence for when he dies though. But hopefully that's awhile off (he's 14 years older)

6:13 PM · Jul 22, 2020·Twitter Web App

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648490)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 10:11 AM
Author: Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party

holy shit @ this comment. everything about it is amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648649)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 10:12 AM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648651)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 10:14 AM
Author: Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party

strong odds that the 14-years-older "hubby" is a tenured prof she met as a grad student

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648658)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 10:16 AM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648664)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 11:15 AM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40648957)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 11:32 AM
Author: dark bateful native affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40649053)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

https://twitter.com/HelanaDarwin/status/1183749451132952577

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40649064)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 11:35 AM
Author: Garnet spectacular school candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40649070)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 11:35 AM
Author: Aggressive twisted lettuce reading party

kinda hot actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40649075)



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Date: July 23rd, 2020 4:01 PM
Author: Blathering Marvelous Station Pozpig

Maybe if you find cultural appropriation attractive, WRONGTHINKER.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4588992&forum_id=2#40650453)