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Widener student responds to insulting Widener professor
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Date: October 8th, 2006 6:08 AM Author: mahogany hideous forum telephone Professor Dimino: I read your original post and all the comments. I understand the tension between the desire of a professor to offer the best education in the way he or she thinks is best and the desire of law students to pursue their education in the way they think works best for them. While I by no means condone the behavior of a student who is repeatedly unprepared I think you owe your students and the law school an apology. I have often heard of and personally experienced your blatant disrespect for Widener University School of Law and its students through comments essentially meaning “You're at Widener, don't bother applying for ..." or “go back and talk to your 5th grade English teacher because most of you didn’t learn how to write.” Your approach in class of "fear me for I am thou your professor" was at first terrifying and then absolutely insulting. Your attitude has been and now continues to be demeaning and degrading. You have no business teaching a class of students who predominately are eager to learn an unbiased and respectful approach to the law when you cannot hide your own vulgar distaste for those students and your own personal agenda as to how the Supreme Court should or should have decided cases. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT WE ARE LESS THAN STELLAR? You have no personal knowledge of why your students chose a certain law school. Maybe someone came to Widener because they were impressed by your resume. How disappointed they must now be. Maybe someone came to Widener because it was close to Harrisburg and wanted to start a life in the area. Maybe someone came to Widener because they have or had a career in Harrisburg that they are seeking to advance by adding a law degree to their resume. Maybe someone came to Widener because they had a bad day when they took the LSAT and appreciate that Widener gave them a second chance. Maybe someone came to Widener because they didn't take undergraduate school seriously, but have since realized the value of education. Maybe someone came to Widener because they wanted to for any reason unknown to you and your disrespectful assumption that they HAD TO BECAUSE THEY WERE LESS THAN STELLAR. I agree with your realization that better prepared students will only increase the reputation of their school. There are many of us out there doing just that. (Funny how it took your students to remind you of that.) If our professors think, like you state, that we are less than stellar (and thus clearly incapable of succeeding in the real world) no wonder the school's reputation and the confidence of your students is where it is. Please don't go publicly demeaning me by demeaning my school or its students again. I was proud of my time at Widener and impressed by nearly all of my professors and the supporting staff and the education I paid for, struggled for, earned and received. Just to let you know, I got a coveted job in a firm that respects, as I do, my education from Widener. At least they thought of me, and thus Widener, as stellar.
Posted by: Not less than stellar | Oct 8, 2006 12:05:00 AM
http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2006/10/the_virtues_of_.html#comments |
Date: October 8th, 2006 6:12 AM Author: up-to-no-good site flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749107) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 6:55 AM Author: Salmon Razzmatazz Gaming Laptop Piazza LOL. get a life and a job, faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749126) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 9:59 AM Author: sooty arousing dingle berry legend "Maybe someone came to Widener because they were impressed by your resume. How disappointed they must now be. Maybe someone came to Widener because it was close to Harrisburg and wanted to start a life in the area. Maybe someone came to Widener because they have or had a career in Harrisburg that they are seeking to advance by adding a law degree to their resume. Maybe someone came to Widener because they had a bad day when they took the LSAT and appreciate that Widener gave them a second chance. Maybe someone came to Widener because they didn't take undergraduate school seriously . . . "
maybe not.
you affirm the safe assumption that you're stupid. |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 10:02 AM Author: Beady-eyed mexican In all seriousness, I respect this student. Who the fuck is the Prof to label them idiots? Yes, they'll never work for STB or DPW, but someone has to work in Smalltown, USA and help Billy Joe and Fannie incorporate their Main Street grocery store. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749208) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:28 AM Author: sapphire big therapy messiness i mean the averages for the school are public. We can guess that the school isn't 80% locals who scored 170+ on their lsats but chose to stay near the family.
I think its objectively fair that on average wideners students are less than stellar. Just because its fair and true though doesn't mean a prof should be blogging about it... He's basically insulting his customers. |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:33 AM Author: cheese-eating fanboi A snobby professor! OMG! What a shocker that intelletual anal-retentivism helps foster an awful personality. My whole world is upside down.
Not that I disagree with you, but what are his customers going to do? Take their business elsewhere? Probably not. |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:36 AM Author: Shimmering business firm indeed; their situation is probably best summarized as pwn3d. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749445) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 1:33 PM Author: tan laughsome theatre depressive Verily. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6750010) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 12:36 PM Author: sapphire big therapy messiness no probably not...but from a pure business perspective, i'm sure widener administrators aren't too happy when their profs are publically proclaiming he mediocrity of their students.
i think i'm just about done thinking about widener this week though. |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 12:49 PM Author: cheese-eating fanboi I assume he has tenure, so he probably doesn't give a fuck what the admin thinks. Now if he doesn't have tenure.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749770) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 10:10 AM Author: Aromatic house Obviously those people are the minority of the class, but I don't think that means they don't exist. The point is that it's not safe to assume that EVERY student is shitty. At any rate, if ANYONE should be invested in treating the students as though they are first-rate, it is the professor.
It's just hard to get around that Domino is an incredibly shitty professor. Unlike the students, I think we can safely assume that. |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:31 AM Author: sapphire big therapy messiness now the prof said 'student quality is less than stellar' which refers more to the average student than the exception.
he didn't say - every single student here is less than stellar. note that he also didn't say that they were subpar - just not "stellar." If widener student quality was stellar than how exactly would we refer to HYS student quality? |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:32 AM Author: Shimmering business firm the boundary of truth and the boundary of prudence, though, do not always coincide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749424) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:36 AM Author: sapphire big therapy messiness agree of course.
just separating out the actual truth of the statement.
attack him for being insensitive but don't attack him for being a liar. |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:33 AM Author: Red Fragrant Trump Supporter Puppy "fear me for I am thou your professor" not sure what this means. this quote, at a minimum, is less than stellar. |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:34 AM Author: Aromatic house Agreed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749437) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:34 AM Author: cheese-eating fanboi haha. 167. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749438) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:35 AM Author: Shimmering business firm yes, i chuckled at that too. either it's less than stellar or it's expressing truths too deep for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749440) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:38 AM Author: sapphire big therapy messiness there should probably be an 'art' between thou and your for added dramatic effect.
its possible this was left out by mistake.
its funnier to think the student actually thought that this is how you construct the phrase...so i will go with that assumption. |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:39 AM Author: irradiated brilliant keepsake machete station Why would "art" make this disaster better? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749458) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:42 AM Author: Shimmering business firm art is what separates man from beast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749470) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 12:24 PM Author: Misanthropic fear-inspiring persian hahahaha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749655) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 12:33 PM Author: sapphire big therapy messiness 171 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749696) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:42 AM Author: sapphire big therapy messiness hmm actually it wouldn't...but i think he was going for something like that.
he was trying to construct something really dramatic, then realized he didn't know what he was doing, so just wrote 'your'
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:43 AM Author: Shimmering business firm LESSTHANSTELLARPWN3D (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749477) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 12:51 PM Author: godawful swashbuckling filthpig he meant "Fear me, for I am the LORD thy professor." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749779) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:33 AM Author: Shimmering business firm "The comments to this entry are closed."
heh |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:34 AM Author: Aromatic house I love how it ended on that note. Fuck the prof. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749439) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 11:36 AM Author: Adventurous jewess "How disappointed they must now be." Better go back to your 5th grade English teacher. |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 12:34 PM Author: fishy french goal in life national Subject: this prof is great he graduated law school 5 years ago, spent like 3 years clerking (only as high as DC app) and then began teaching in 2004.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:xlUkNK__F9cJ:www.law.widener.edu/faculty/hb/dimino/bio.shtml+Michael+Dimino&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1 |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 12:52 PM Author: godawful swashbuckling filthpig Since when does "less than stellar" = "retard"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749784) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 12:56 PM Author: Cream address Widener student does have a point. This prof TEACHES at Widener. Glass houses brotha. Glass houses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749807) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 1:04 PM Author: cheese-eating fanboi Which I imagined was the reason why he feels so strongly about student ability: he's bitter about teaching at a shite school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&forum_id=2#6749851) |
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Date: October 8th, 2006 1:40 PM Author: unhinged location mother Subject: Emailed him: To: mrdimino@mail.widener.edu From:Xoxo Hth Re: Bitter b/c you teach at a shite school in your 40's? I'd be too...
I'm sure your students love having their tuition dollars go to a professor who publicly brands them as lackluster and worries it'll hurt his reputation in academia. Dude, if you were going to have a reputation in academia you wouldn't be teaching at Widener at your age. Now why don't you mellow out, settle back into that warm comfortable blanket of mediocrity, and enjoy coasting out the rest of your days producing legions of ambulance chasers. Peace, Xoxohth (links to our thoughts on you and your blog) http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=502415&mc=33&forum_id=2&PHPSESSID=90e41a0c8a76e7ea705227e857558612 |