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NU student urges others not to post on xo about SBA president

My response: Sorry, but this sort of stuff shouldn't be ...
sticky slate spot
  02/07/07
sure that's not flame?
Concupiscible pearl shrine
  02/07/07
Well it was supposedly sent to the NU listserv so if it's fl...
sticky slate spot
  02/07/07
LOL
Gaped Love Of Her Life
  02/07/07
Yeah, that was my reaction too, especially to the "At t...
sticky slate spot
  02/07/07
EXACTLY. this is exactly the sort of shit people considering...
Gaped Love Of Her Life
  02/07/07
This guy is just fanning the flames. Everyone already knows...
haunting legend kitchen
  02/07/07
dude give it a fucking rest. We get it, you're a conservati...
stirring amber bbw
  02/07/07
you're losing it. no imaginative and biting "inbred cra...
angry pink newt
  02/07/07
What did the sba pres do?
clear shaky area codepig
  02/07/07
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575703&mc=...
sticky slate spot
  02/07/07
Wow... whatdawegothere? Some appealing to self-interest, ...
insanely creepy marvelous school
  02/07/07
hAHAHAHA "GRADUATE school" Fag.
Boyish Nursing Home
  02/07/07
gto, you did good.
Gaped Love Of Her Life
  02/07/07
I don't think anyone who reads this board respected NU in th...
haunting legend kitchen
  02/07/07
lol
lascivious personal credit line lay
  02/07/07
first, whothe fuck thinks capitalizing like that is effectiv...
Cyan Public Bath Travel Guidebook
  02/07/07
ok, that's just random viciousness
Grizzly domesticated crackhouse telephone
  02/07/07
I laughed.
aquamarine whorehouse
  02/07/07
You sound like TITO ORTIZ.
heady dark brunch
  02/07/07
He makes a valid point.
Topaz gas station
  02/07/07
Meanest Fish maybe?
arousing theater
  02/07/07
random viciousness!
Grizzly domesticated crackhouse telephone
  02/07/07
sup cuntface?
arousing theater
  02/07/07
talking to yourself is not a major sign of mental health.
Grizzly domesticated crackhouse telephone
  02/07/07
the SBA douchebag was actually a pretty solid writer. maybe ...
Gaped Love Of Her Life
  02/07/07
doesnt this douche realize xoxo is just 4 random douches wit...
angry pink newt
  02/07/07
Hi Machobreeze!
aquamarine whorehouse
  02/07/07
Never say that. Goddamn I hate that asshole.
angry pink newt
  02/07/07
wow, THIS guy is SUCH a fucking INBRED SMALL-DICKED LITTLE C...
stirring amber bbw
  02/07/07
based on the NU posters here and this kind of shit, that pla...
Cyan Public Bath Travel Guidebook
  02/07/07
NU: #1 in BIGCHANGESLAW
haunting legend kitchen
  02/07/07
NU: #1 in #2INCHICAGOLAW
mind-boggling useless scourge upon the earth water buffalo
  02/07/07
damn, yours was wittier
haunting legend kitchen
  02/07/07
178... ahhh fuck it, why am i gonna be stingy on this? 1...
cerise floppy tanning salon
  02/07/07
We've got a future George Luce on our hands. Also, how chee...
glittery magenta address digit ratio
  02/07/07
summary of GTO's post: "thank god people arent talking ...
provocative ape
  02/07/07
Haha nice.
autistic generalized bond
  02/07/07
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=573288&mc=18...
soul-stirring theatre
  02/07/07
Northwestern should have paid to fly the presidents of nu la...
brindle heaven ceo
  02/07/07
You think Roberts would have agreed to that?
Maroon well-lubricated party of the first part
  02/08/07
BREAKING NEWS: Cliff Zimmerman has challenged PP to a "...
splenetic maize double fault
  02/08/07
I refuse to believe that someone with "JD, Rutgers-Newa...
twinkling hell
  02/08/07
Yeah - because "JD, WUSTL, beer hall" is so much b...
lake slippery roommate hospital
  02/08/07
he is nice but he fucked up here.
appetizing white private investor den
  02/08/07
Fair enough Cliff, I guess I misjudged you. Hug?
twinkling hell
  02/08/07
That would be beyond hilarious.
splenetic maize double fault
  02/08/07
I find his "Hey, finals are almost done, gang!" e-...
splenetic maize double fault
  02/08/07
"Gang" Seriously, where does he think he works,...
twinkling hell
  02/08/07
i heard cliff was a crip before embarking on a legal career ...
appetizing white private investor den
  02/08/07


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Date: February 7th, 2007 1:28 AM
Author: sticky slate spot

My response:

Sorry, but this sort of stuff shouldn't be kept hidden, precisely *because* it influences the school's reputation. Prospective law students considering multiple T14s absolutely should know about this whole situation so they can take it into account in their decision making process.

Also, I don't see the problem with putting some sunshine on the whole thing -- for one thing, having the story "out there" will reduce the sort of misinformation that's apparently spread through word of mouth in Chicago's legal community. Furthermore, both sides shouldn't have a problem with people knowing about this dispute -- if the NU administration acted correctly, there is nothing to fear by making this thing known, and if the administration did not act correctly, outside pressure should help them reverse course and do the right thing here.

Original email:

-----

My dear classmates,

I don't like spamming the listserv, but I'm making a small request pretty please-- kindly refrain from publishing information onto the xoxohth.com messageboard. Not only are those messages going to be archived (like forever) that could potentially upset individuals' careers but it looks like "certain" students are being targeted and humiliated in this messageboard and this is appalling, psychologically disruptive, and not to mention, perhaps defamatory.

Believe it or not, the recent NU Law events as of late are already spreading to law firms...I'm serious. I've heard "interesting and twisted versions" of the story coming from California and it sounds like Chicago has already gotten serious wind of it. This is OUR school-- whether you are a 1L, 2L, or 3L, or LLM student, the way in which WE portray our school and ourselves now ultimately affects your future and the respect and dignity you seek from your employer or potential employer. Perhaps a law firm will second-guess whether to come to our school for OCIs; or maybe a judge will be hesitant to seek out NU Law students based on our behavior as a community. After all, their reputation to the legal community is on the line as well.

Continuing to belittle a classmate's intelligence or slam an individual's character is a bit unprofessional, no? It does not matter if you are doing it anonymously or not. I thought most of us "worked" for some time before we came to GRADUATE school. So before you send a sarcastic email or make fun of someone's intelligence or humiliate them in a messageboard...ask yourself: if i were in a business or working environment, would it be acceptable and would i feel comfortable sending out this email to my ENTIRE copmany or posting this message on the Company's cafeteria fridge? Hopefully you would consider using the same discretion over these "airwaves" as well. After all, just like Peter's emails came to haunt him, your comments on the listserve or in a messageboard like xoxohth could as well...whether it is anonymous (seriously anything can be traced back to the sender) or not.

We are a community and this is our school and we are classmates, colleagues, and friends. I respect how everyone feels-- no doubt, we are all going through a rough patch right now. But fueling this fire by inviting other individuals to comment on hearsay about SPECIFIC individuals is unwarranted and frankly, disrespectful. You can help stop this by practicing self-control (ie, not posting Peter's emails on this messageboard to making false character assessments about specific classmates) or finding other activities (like running or discussing over coffee w/ friends) to let out your concerns/frustration. It's YOUR RIGHT to be frustrated. Absolutely YES. But it's not fair to slam one another without 100% of the facts and with utter disrespect. How would you feel if this were happening to you? And it's only going to hurt you back in the end when the school you pay $40,000 in tuition to a year is looked down upon by your future colleagues and potential employers.

At this point, I feel that we, students, need to UNITE as a community and WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION to solve this recent bout of events. So please, let's practice building from this situation and not destructing each other. I love NU Law and I have had such an AMAZING experience here...I hope you have too or that you have the chance to also. Let's work with this administration and learn from these recent events and re-build our community once again.

Respect is the best way to get the message across and the safest way to get a respectful message back. Have a wonderful evening and I hope you do not make fun of my email... :-)

Take care,

[redacted]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558761)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:34 AM
Author: Concupiscible pearl shrine

sure that's not flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558790)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:38 AM
Author: sticky slate spot

Well it was supposedly sent to the NU listserv so if it's flame we'll likely know soon enough. However given the source and given the length of the email I'd be amazed if it was flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558809)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:38 AM
Author: Gaped Love Of Her Life

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558814)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:47 AM
Author: sticky slate spot

Yeah, that was my reaction too, especially to the "At this point, I feel that we, students, need to UNITE as a community and WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION to solve this recent bout of events."

Given that the NU administration apparently caused this whole problem in the first place and hasn't really shown any signs of remedying the situation in a positive way, it's pretty weird for this guy to just want everyone to shut up and "unite" to "work with the administration."

Furthermore you'd think that the fact that this story is being widely disseminated and makes NU look bad would be a sign to everyone involved that the administration screwed up royally and needs to change its position on this issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558876)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:51 AM
Author: Gaped Love Of Her Life

EXACTLY. this is exactly the sort of shit people considering NU Law should know. the moral of the story is that if you don't want people to know about the idiotic shit you do, then don't do idiotic shit. i think you hit the nail on the head: the administration and students have absolutely nothing to worry about if they acted appropriately here. like i said below, you did good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558902)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:53 AM
Author: haunting legend kitchen

This guy is just fanning the flames. Everyone already knows about this controversy, it was on the WSJ blog. The best thing to do know is shut up about it and let it die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558917)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:58 AM
Author: stirring amber bbw

dude give it a fucking rest. We get it, you're a conservative. This isn't about that. The guy was a fucking retard; even George Allen would be embarrassed at his lack of discretion.

It's not the administration's fault. The guy fucked up in his official capacity as the SBA president. If they did nothing, what right do they have to take part in any student affairs at all? You're losing it pal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558937)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:17 AM
Author: angry pink newt

you're losing it. no imaginative and biting "inbred cracker faggot" comments to throw in there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559036)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:15 AM
Author: clear shaky area codepig

What did the sba pres do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559016)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:18 AM
Author: sticky slate spot

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=575703&mc=217&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559039)





Date: February 7th, 2007 4:40 AM
Author: insanely creepy marvelous school

Wow... whatdawegothere?

Some appealing to self-interest, arguing that everyone will be better off with a coverup.

Some not too subtle threats against those who post and are outed.

A few irrelevant attempts at 'well, what if YOU'D seriously screwed the pooch--would YOU want to have to face totally legitimate consequences for that?!'

Some fucking insulting and Big Brotheresque attempts to tell fellow students about their feelings and what they should do with them...

Yeeeaaaah... so glad I shitcanned Northwestern's offer to apply. Sounds like a hole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559379)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:42 AM
Author: Boyish Nursing Home

hAHAHAHA

"GRADUATE school"

Fag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558846)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:48 AM
Author: Gaped Love Of Her Life

gto, you did good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558879)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:49 AM
Author: haunting legend kitchen

I don't think anyone who reads this board respected NU in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558882)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:50 AM
Author: lascivious personal credit line lay
Subject: lol

some people just can't handle a breakfast with the chief justice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558890)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:52 AM
Author: Cyan Public Bath Travel Guidebook

first, whothe fuck thinks capitalizing like that is effective writing?

second, that sounds suspiciously like madame cunt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558912)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:55 AM
Author: Grizzly domesticated crackhouse telephone

ok, that's just random viciousness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558925)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:01 AM
Author: aquamarine whorehouse

I laughed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558947)





Date: February 7th, 2007 10:45 AM
Author: heady dark brunch

You sound like TITO ORTIZ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559871)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:53 AM
Author: Topaz gas station

He makes a valid point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558914)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:55 AM
Author: arousing theater

Meanest Fish maybe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558926)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:57 AM
Author: Grizzly domesticated crackhouse telephone

random viciousness!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558931)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:57 AM
Author: arousing theater

sup cuntface?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558935)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:59 AM
Author: Grizzly domesticated crackhouse telephone

talking to yourself is not a major sign of mental health.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558941)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:58 AM
Author: Gaped Love Of Her Life

the SBA douchebag was actually a pretty solid writer. maybe this guy is one of the spurned URMs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558936)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:59 AM
Author: angry pink newt

doesnt this douche realize xoxo is just 4 random douches with 5000 monikers apiece?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558939)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:02 AM
Author: aquamarine whorehouse

Hi Machobreeze!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558955)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:18 AM
Author: angry pink newt

Never say that. Goddamn I hate that asshole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559045)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:00 AM
Author: stirring amber bbw

wow, THIS guy is SUCH a fucking INBRED SMALL-DICKED LITTLE CUNT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558943)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:08 AM
Author: Cyan Public Bath Travel Guidebook

based on the NU posters here and this kind of shit, that place must be a fucking zoo. what the fuck do they teach there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7558977)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:14 AM
Author: haunting legend kitchen

NU: #1 in BIGCHANGESLAW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559008)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:15 AM
Author: mind-boggling useless scourge upon the earth water buffalo

NU: #1 in #2INCHICAGOLAW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559018)





Date: February 7th, 2007 2:17 AM
Author: haunting legend kitchen

damn, yours was wittier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559031)





Date: February 7th, 2007 7:49 AM
Author: cerise floppy tanning salon

178...

ahhh fuck it, why am i gonna be stingy on this? 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559445)





Date: February 7th, 2007 8:31 AM
Author: glittery magenta address digit ratio

We've got a future George Luce on our hands. Also, how cheesed off does this SOB have to be seeing his email posted here now. Someone post his name, email, future firm, facebook picture, cellphone number, girlfriend's cup size and his genetic markers for predisposition to testicular cancer please.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559501)





Date: February 7th, 2007 10:14 AM
Author: provocative ape

summary of GTO's post: "thank god people arent talking about the Penn shooter anymore!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559760)





Date: February 7th, 2007 10:15 AM
Author: autistic generalized bond

Haha nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559762)





Date: February 7th, 2007 10:17 AM
Author: soul-stirring theatre

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=573288&mc=18&forum_id=2#7559472

It IS a little odd that he waited a week to weigh in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7559767)





Date: February 7th, 2007 11:17 AM
Author: brindle heaven ceo

Northwestern should have paid to fly the presidents of nu law's ethnic orgs to dc to have breakfast with roberts.

problem solved and their whining would have stopped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7560012)





Date: February 8th, 2007 2:48 PM
Author: Maroon well-lubricated party of the first part

You think Roberts would have agreed to that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567393)





Date: February 8th, 2007 2:46 PM
Author: splenetic maize double fault

BREAKING NEWS: Cliff Zimmerman has challenged PP to a "walk off", to be held at the bar review tonight. I've heard Cliff can't turn left, though.

This whole thing is so fucking retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567386)





Date: February 8th, 2007 2:51 PM
Author: twinkling hell

I refuse to believe that someone with "JD, Rutgers-Newark University" is anything less than an intellectual heavyweight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567411)





Date: February 8th, 2007 2:55 PM
Author: lake slippery roommate hospital

Yeah - because "JD, WUSTL, beer hall" is so much better

Cliff is actually a really nice guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567431)





Date: February 8th, 2007 2:57 PM
Author: appetizing white private investor den

he is nice but he fucked up here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567439)





Date: February 8th, 2007 2:59 PM
Author: twinkling hell

Fair enough Cliff, I guess I misjudged you.

Hug?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567453)





Date: February 8th, 2007 3:01 PM
Author: splenetic maize double fault

That would be beyond hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567474)





Date: February 8th, 2007 3:00 PM
Author: splenetic maize double fault

I find his "Hey, finals are almost done, gang!" e-mails to be cheesy and disturbing at the same time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567463)





Date: February 8th, 2007 3:04 PM
Author: twinkling hell

"Gang"

Seriously, where does he think he works, Penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567493)





Date: February 8th, 2007 3:14 PM
Author: appetizing white private investor den

i heard cliff was a crip before embarking on a legal career to "make a difference".

probably vestigial terminology for him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576376&forum_id=2#7567545)