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Is the commerce clause being interpreted as it was intended?
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:11 AM Author: Bespoke Chapel Ratface Would this country be in better financial shape if it were? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130018) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:12 AM Author: Aqua temple azn obviously not; no (less obviously). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130031) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:12 AM Author: Cobalt flatulent black woman native we need the commerce clause to be a general police power so liberals can write really long fucking articles in their fancy schmancy law reviews. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130033) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:13 AM Author: Beta windowlicker no. it was clearly intended to cover gun sales on school grounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130039) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:45 AM Author: razzle forum philosopher-king gun possession fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130853) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:15 AM Author: tan violent ape No it is not, and yes parts (at least my part) of the country would be in better shape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130059) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:17 AM Author: nudist tanning salon persian "and yes parts (at least my part) of the country would be in better shape."
doubtful |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:41 AM Author: tan violent ape Why do you say that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130365) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:42 AM Author: nudist tanning salon persian there are efficiencies that come with uniformity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130370) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:12 PM Author: Appetizing garrison N. Korea is about as uniform as it gets. Check out their efficiency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132062) |
Date: July 1st, 2009 1:14 AM Author: nudist tanning salon persian the more fully national the economy the better in the long run i'd think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130046) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:16 AM Author: Bespoke Chapel Ratface srsly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130070) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:16 AM Author: nudist tanning salon persian of course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130075) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:17 AM Author: Walnut Mother Seeing as it covers single site restaurants and goods that have never crossed state lines, I'd say the interpretation is pretty fucked up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130091) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:25 AM Author: Henna friendly grandma giraffe titcr. commerce clause = permission for congress to regulate anything they want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130184) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:27 AM Author: Concupiscible out-of-control ticket booth Nah dude, there are like, totally limits and stuff. You know...like, it's got to have substantial effects or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130205) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:46 AM Author: razzle forum philosopher-king BUT IS IT IN THE AGGREGATE OR NOT? OMFG I CAN'T TAKE THIS MY BRAIN SPLODES "splatter" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130857) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:25 AM Author: Concupiscible out-of-control ticket booth No way. No, not better financial shape, but we'd be better off overall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130180) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:36 AM Author: soul-stirring office deer antler Lulz. No.
And I've never heard someone seriously claim that it is. |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:39 AM Author: Bespoke Chapel Ratface What do liberals have to say about this? And I'm not joking
EDIT: I'm not too sure, but wouldn't social security, medicare, most government agencies etc. be unconstitutional under the original meaning? Not that this would necessarily be bad, just wondering |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:41 AM Author: nudist tanning salon persian if the founders were as stupid and inflexible as you take them to be we'd have no reason to heed their words (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130359) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:44 AM Author: Walnut Mother The founders created a method for amending the Constitution. This is preferable to congressional usurpation that gets rubber stamped by judicial fiat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130388) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:45 AM Author: nudist tanning salon persian nah i'd rather live with the rules we make by majority vote. but in any event not clear that the founders were as dumb as you take them to be--of course those debates should be merely academic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130401) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:07 PM Author: Twinkling Blathering Home if you want to just live by majority rule, why bother having a constitution at all?
the founders definitely contemplated that the constitution would undergo significant change. I just think they expected the change to be done through open, legal, and democratic means rather than backdoor deals and regulatory creep. |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:46 PM Author: Mind-boggling puppy resort You don't understand. The main purpose of the Constitution is not to set a foundation for limited government. The main purpose of the Constitution is that we can use it as a source for dreaming up endless whiny individual rights in order to justify MORE government power, not less. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132414) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:46 AM Author: Bespoke Chapel Ratface I didn't say I agree. I was just curious if that was the original understanding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130407) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:49 AM Author: nudist tanning salon persian the folks around at the time likely didn't contemplate federal regulation on a contemporary scale. they also likely didn't contemplate anything like a modern economy. perhaps they would've come to different views on what federalism might entail down the line if they had (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130427) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:03 AM Author: soul-stirring office deer antler WTF is the relationship between for first and second sentences? Contrasting? Complementary? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130559) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:46 AM Author: nudist tanning salon persian reasonably clear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130859) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:11 PM Author: Bipolar pit I don't think this is an excuse for ignoring the document they wrote and calling yourself loyal to it. What liberals have done is push an illegal agenda using majroity vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132053) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:06 PM Author: Twinkling Blathering Home social security, medicare, and most government agencies are really just spending programs, not regulation of commerce. They don't rely upon the commerce clause for their authority, but rather upon Congress's power to "lay and collect taxes [and spend them] to provide for the general welfare." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132021) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:13 PM Author: insanely creepy red house juggernaut titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132068) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:36 PM Author: exciting location coffee pot I thought SS/medicare were general welfare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132320) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 3:02 AM Author: Stimulating Hairy Legs Senate lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130907) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:13 PM Author: opaque infuriating point no way to know dooder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132072) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:43 PM Author: Hairraiser talking dilemma quadroon Enjoy!
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