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I've been using convert.neevia.com in the past, but it's tak...
Spruce Pit
  02/07/07
dunno about mac.. but i use broadgun pdf.
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
OS X can make PDFs automatically with the Save to PDF option...
soul-stirring kitchen love of her life
  02/07/07
Holy crap you're right. What a dumb place to put that save ...
Spruce Pit
  02/07/07
It is technically the "correct" place to put that ...
soul-stirring kitchen love of her life
  02/07/07
I think I'm going to replace my shitty PC laptop with a Mac....
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
Have you played around with vista? looks pretty nice. kinda ...
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
It looks nice, in some ways nicer than OS X. Windows still h...
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
how does this play out for the typical user? i have XP and h...
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
I still find features like expose (multiple window panes vie...
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
but that's gui, not architecture.
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
Windows still has a very bad habit of scattering files all o...
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
and how does this influence the average user?
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
a)I don't care about the average user's experience. I care a...
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
so your problem with windows is that you don't like it. not ...
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
There's plenty that's wrong with Windows.
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
such as?
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
The registry.
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
what's wrong with it? i never had a problem.
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
>In 1990 at Microsoft there were several requirements tha...
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
ok. that's not helpful.
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
Even Windows programmers acknowledge that Windows registry i...
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
I've never had a problem with the registry. Have never known...
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07
>I know this isn't proof of anything Exactly.
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
Not architecture. And Windows doesn't scatter files. Vir...
crimson bbw
  02/07/07
It is an architecture problem when registry gets corrupted a...
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
Really? Tell me about the architecture differences. I'm no...
crimson bbw
  02/07/07
http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=148820
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
You missed the point. I'm asking *you* to tell me about it.
crimson bbw
  02/07/07
I'm giving it to you straight from the horse's mouth, son.
Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth
  02/07/07
"But at least OS X has such a function as opposed to ce...
crimson bbw
  02/07/07
PDF is an open spec and Adobe can't demand licensing fees fo...
soul-stirring kitchen love of her life
  02/07/07
Examples (this shit has been going on for years): "d...
crimson bbw
  02/07/07
I'm pretty sure that there is a port of Open Office for the ...
bat-shit-crazy selfie
  02/07/07
PRIMO PDF. htfh.
lake comical market jap
  02/07/07
.pdfs blow whenever my computer is running slow, I kill acr...
Chartreuse Senate Liquid Oxygen
  02/07/07
use foxit reader.
claret mental disorder
  02/07/07
never had this issue with adobe. you need more ram, probably...
insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national
  02/07/07


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Date: February 7th, 2007 12:03 PM
Author: Spruce Pit

I've been using convert.neevia.com in the past, but it's taking forever now. Is there anything else I can use to convert to pdf, either online or downloadable to a MAC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560196)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:03 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

dunno about mac.. but i use broadgun pdf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560201)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:05 PM
Author: soul-stirring kitchen love of her life

OS X can make PDFs automatically with the Save to PDF option when you go to print.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560210)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:07 PM
Author: Spruce Pit

Holy crap you're right. What a dumb place to put that save function. Thanks man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560215)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:25 PM
Author: soul-stirring kitchen love of her life

It is technically the "correct" place to put that function because of the way it works, although I agree that it is not entirely keeping with Apple's philosophy of keeping things intuitive.

But at least OS X has such a function as opposed to certain other operating systems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560303)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:27 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

I think I'm going to replace my shitty PC laptop with a Mac. MB or MBP?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560314)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:28 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

Have you played around with vista? looks pretty nice. kinda like os x

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560323)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:31 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

It looks nice, in some ways nicer than OS X. Windows still has a crappy architecture, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560333)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:32 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

how does this play out for the typical user? i have XP and haven't had any problems with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560339)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:40 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

I still find features like expose (multiple window panes viewed simultaneously) and spotlight (instantaneous search) more useful. There are just too many little things about Windows that grate on my nerves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560385)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:41 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

but that's gui, not architecture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560392)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:43 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

Windows still has a very bad habit of scattering files all over the place upon installation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560403)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:45 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

and how does this influence the average user?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560418)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:48 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

a)I don't care about the average user's experience. I care about mine.

b) Having said that, too many people I know had problems with files and registries getting corrupted and having problems uninstalling programs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560444)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:49 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

so your problem with windows is that you don't like it. not that there's anything wrong with it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560456)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:52 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

There's plenty that's wrong with Windows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560477)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:54 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

such as?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560491)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:55 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

The registry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560495)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:56 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

what's wrong with it? i never had a problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560501)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:57 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

>In 1990 at Microsoft there were several requirements that drove the registry. The number of third party applications and application writers was growing very fast. Making this worse, a new object system was on the horizon which could dramatically increase the number of independently-authored "components" that needed to be registered. There was a need to store state in a segregated manner so that apps wouldn't stomp on other app's information. Also there was a "new" notion of remote manageability for the objects, so the access method should be easily remotable early in the boot process. Also the OS needed a place to store lots of very small data items.

It would have been best to use the file system, but the file system at that time was FAT which could not store small data items efficiently. The registry was the first API common between Windows 3 and OS/2 (and also NT), which was a goal at the time. Of course it quickly went out of control, since there was no rational security or ownership model. The registry was kept very very simple in order to maximize the likelihood that the next file system (either the object file system or NTFS) would be able to implement it, including in the NT kernel (which had a very simple API model). It was also the first API from Microsoft that had unused parameters for future features, such as context ids for security, query features, and other stuff. Unfortunately much of that didn't work as planned since very few applications paid attention to the requirement to set them to 0L!

I didn't expect it to be so massively overused, nor for it to survive beyond Windows 3.x. It was supposed to be superceded by an object file system (that was designed and implemented several times, but never released.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560507)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:57 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

ok. that's not helpful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560511)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:02 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

Even Windows programmers acknowledge that Windows registry is a POS. What more do you need?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560526)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:09 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

I've never had a problem with the registry. Have never known anyone that has, except for people who decided to tinker with it. I know this isn't proof of anything, but the fact that programmers complain about the registry is about as relevant to me as car enthusiasts complaining that a car's gear switches at 3500 rpm's instead of 3000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560588)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:11 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

>I know this isn't proof of anything

Exactly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560597)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:48 PM
Author: crimson bbw

Not architecture.

And Windows doesn't scatter files. Virtually everything Windows itself uses is in C:\WINDOWS.

Third party programs scatter files when they want to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560441)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:54 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

It is an architecture problem when registry gets corrupted and you have no way of uninstalling a problem app cleanly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560488)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:34 PM
Author: crimson bbw

Really? Tell me about the architecture differences. I'm not asking about GUIs. I'm asking specifically about architecture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560348)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:47 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=148820

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560431)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:49 PM
Author: crimson bbw

You missed the point. I'm asking *you* to tell me about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560454)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:52 PM
Author: Racy pearly area scourge upon the earth

I'm giving it to you straight from the horse's mouth, son.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560481)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:38 PM
Author: crimson bbw

"But at least OS X has such a function as opposed to certain other operating systems."

There are about 72.9 trillion free print-to-PDF converters for Windows.

Adobe is the one that got pissy about letting MS have export to PDF features. They wanted licensing fees for Windows features and applications (but not for MS's Mac products).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560371)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:03 PM
Author: soul-stirring kitchen love of her life

PDF is an open spec and Adobe can't demand licensing fees for it. Basically this is one of many instances of Microsoft valuing its relationships with third-party developers over its users. You have to give Apple some respect for not going along with this and trying to deliver the best integrated user experience possible (maybe not to you personally, but certainly to the people who like it). Another example is Steve Jobs demonstrating his willingness to crack the media industry's grip with iTunes, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560537)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:07 PM
Author: crimson bbw

Examples (this shit has been going on for years):

"due to legal objections from Adobe Systems, Office 2007 will not have PDF support out of the box, but rather as a separate free download" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2007

Adobe wants the software giant to remove the PDF "save as" feature from its beta version of Office 2007 or to charge a fee for it, whereas Microsoft wants to offer that feature for free, said Dave Heiner, the deputy general counsel who oversees Microsoft's antitrust cases.

"The 'save as PDF' feature is the second most popular request we get from customers," Heiner said, adding, "Adobe has told the world that PDF is an open format...and (rival) products OpenOffice, WordPerfect Office and Apple (Computer's applications) already support PDF and tout it as a selling feature. Microsoft should be able to support PDF as well."

http://news.com.com/2100-1012_3-6079320.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560573)





Date: February 7th, 2007 12:32 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy selfie

I'm pretty sure that there is a port of Open Office for the Mac. It converts really quickly/well between *.doc and *.pdf.

http://download.openoffice.org/index.html

It's also a free/better version of office and everyone in the world should use it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560342)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:08 PM
Author: lake comical market jap

PRIMO PDF. htfh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560576)





Date: February 7th, 2007 1:12 PM
Author: Chartreuse Senate Liquid Oxygen

.pdfs blow

whenever my computer is running slow, I kill acrobat and the problem goes away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7560604)





Date: February 7th, 2007 9:34 PM
Author: claret mental disorder

use foxit reader.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7563454)





Date: February 7th, 2007 9:35 PM
Author: insanely creepy embarrassed to the bone national

never had this issue with adobe. you need more ram, probably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=576506&forum_id=2#7563461)