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Is sucking dick consistent with vegan philosophy?
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Date: June 5th, 2013 4:19 PM Author: Hyperactive Contagious Police Squad Bawdyhouse Humans are animals. By sucking dick and inhaling cum, a person consumes animal byproduct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23334976) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 4:30 PM Author: vivacious turquoise skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335035) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 5:00 PM Author: Hyperactive Contagious Police Squad Bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335259) |
Date: June 5th, 2013 5:49 PM Author: Insane House This is a very interesting question, one that has brought me to realize how insensitive I’ve been to all my intimate partners’ dietary needs. Semen is technically an animal byproduct which is a no go for vegans.
But, although ingesting bodily fluids goes against the conduct of vegans, this case might be an exception to the rule because she has the approval of the particular animal whose byproducts are involved. |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 5:50 PM Author: Odious karate theater So long as you don't swallow it's OK. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335570) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 5:52 PM Author: Navy multi-colored toilet seat tanning salon as alluded to above, the vegan animal rights argument (at least as summarized by peter singer, but ultimately derived from aristotle's on souls and kant's grounding for metaphysics of morals) is predicated upon consent. thus, if your bf isn't a feral, or even domesticated, animal and he can pass the turing test, then by all means swallow away! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335578) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 5:53 PM Author: Odious karate theater Animals by their very nature give you implied consent to eat them. What kind of shit argument is this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335586) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:00 PM Author: Navy multi-colored toilet seat tanning salon Vegetables by their very nature give you implied consent to eat them. What kind of shit argument is this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335614) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:27 PM Author: Hyperactive Contagious Police Squad Bawdyhouse Does a tomato say eat me because I'm red? Does a woman say fuck me b/c I have a wet pussy? No, they don't. It's implied that red tomatoes are eaten and wet pussies get fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335727) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:01 PM Author: drab offensive cruise ship lol. Tyft. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335615) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:34 PM Author: magenta church "Animals by their very nature give you implied consent to eat them. What kind of shit argument is this."
No, they don't. They fiercely resist being killed and having members of their family killed. |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:38 PM Author: Twinkling Twisted Stage Internal Respiration Not fiercely enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335790) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:51 PM Author: Odious karate theater I fiercely resist having my soul sucked out of me everyday as I go into my shitty biglaw job, but yet I consented to it. People consent to suffering all the time bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335871) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:52 PM Author: magenta church I know you're trying to be funny, but the truth is that there is no tenable counterargument to what I'm saying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335887) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:14 PM Author: stimulating fat ankles market Plants resist being killed. Some animals actually don't resist being killed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23336068) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:16 PM Author: magenta church In a loose sense, yeah. But there's no evidence I've seen that they feel pain or suffer.
Name a commonly-eaten/factory-farmed animal that doesn't resist being killed? |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:18 PM Author: stimulating fat ankles market Its all based on whether you think the plant/animal has consciousness. If you think its just all reactions without thought, plants are the same as animals. Animals are just louder and less helpless, but plants also resist being killed. try chopping down a huge oak tree one afternoon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23336113) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:22 PM Author: magenta church You don't need "consciousness" in a human sense to suffer. Farm animals have the same pain receptors we do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23336144) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:33 PM Author: magenta church Veganism is based on refraining from actions that cause conscious beings to suffer. Dick sucking doesn't usually cause other conscious beings to suffer. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335757) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:39 PM Author: Hyperactive Contagious Police Squad Bawdyhouse I have several problems with this. First, it requires that the vegan know an animal is suffering. Second, it requires that the vegan know that the physical acting of eating, killing, maiming, whatever the animal is actually suffering.
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:46 PM Author: magenta church It is actually not hard to know when an animal is suffering. It involves very basic inductive reasoning. Google or YouTube factory farming (e.g., http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShNFRLCW2as) and tell me if you still have these "problems."
Ever own a pet? |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:49 PM Author: Hyperactive Contagious Police Squad Bawdyhouse LOL at being able to tell when an animal suffers. LOL at being able to make such a judgement accurately 100% of the the time. LOL at refraining from animal products because of a preconceived notion of suffering. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335865) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:55 PM Author: Sienna mother rehab cr. anthropomorphic fallacy FTW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335903) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:58 PM Author: magenta church Wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335925) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:57 PM Author: magenta church Cow and pigs' nervous systems are functionally identical to humans'. Their endocrine systems and stress hormones are functionally identical to humans'. They scream and writhe when they're injured and dying. Just like humans.
The only explanation for not perceiving that as suffering is that you don't want to perceive it as suffering. |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:04 PM Author: Hyperactive Contagious Police Squad Bawdyhouse Is that why man created the automobile and pigs are in cages? I think you need to read up on what nervous systems are. They usually involve the brain which is fundamentally different in humans, cows, and pigs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335974) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:08 PM Author: magenta church non-responsive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23336010) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:05 PM Author: Odious karate theater tcq is why you care whether a pig suffers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335990) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:09 PM Author: magenta church Because I have empathy. Why would I care any less--or significantly less--when a human suffers?
Have you ever had a dog or a cat? If so, were you indifferent to its suffering? |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:24 PM Author: Odious karate theater there's a difference between suffering for a purpose and senseless suffering. we are bothered by our pets' suffering because it does nothing for us. in fact, it does the opposite. pets are supposed to bring us joy by being cheerful and shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23336157) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:27 PM Author: magenta church Farm animal suffering is senseless suffering. Humans don't need animal products. I've been a vegan for almost four years, and I'm healthier than I ever was as an omnivore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23336170) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:47 PM Author: Olive home twinkling uncleanness http://youtu.be/sEDw9xgSmSc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335848) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 8:33 PM Author: magenta church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23336594) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 6:52 PM Author: Sienna mother rehab as long as the dick doesn't belong to an animal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335881) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:05 PM Author: Exciting Property can cum feel pain? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23335985) |
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Date: June 6th, 2013 10:49 AM Author: Hyperactive Contagious Police Squad Bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23339804) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 7:22 PM Author: crimson thriller locus i think it's the cornerstone of vegan philosophy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2274236&forum_id=2#23336145) |