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Alasdair MacIntyre: “the new dark ages which are already upon us”

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me. “...
useless digit ratio
  02/16/21
link plz
confused den
  03/29/21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue
useless digit ratio
  03/29/21
"construction of local forms of community within which ...
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crystalline irradiated double fault
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*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*
Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
  02/16/21
this is a second Renaissance
supple really tough guy resort
  02/16/21
just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory towe...
Navy arousing box office
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Harsh but fair
useless digit ratio
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heady crotch
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marvelous twinkling uncleanness
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heady crotch
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After Virtue is 180
Cerebral menage
  02/16/21
he is 180
Seedy odious pozpig sandwich
  02/16/21
That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs ...
useless digit ratio
  02/16/21
link? what books of his have you read?
Seedy odious pozpig sandwich
  02/16/21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue https://you...
useless digit ratio
  02/16/21
The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans
twinkling location preventive strike
  02/16/21
Hard to make a distinction by the end.
useless digit ratio
  02/16/21
only of you're a drunk Roman
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useless digit ratio
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Lol @ premils
Metaphysics Is solved
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useless digit ratio
  03/29/21
quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient h...
Geriatric Flickering Crackhouse
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It is always dangerous to draw too precise parallels between...
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even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empi...
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passionate mahogany theater stage
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i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude ...
comical canary partner
  10/07/21
dominicans are unironically natsoc
confused den
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https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSdnESSU-WRTBliI5nWkh_dlW...
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every age deals with this and it's the MONASTIC communities ...
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Date: February 16th, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: useless digit ratio

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me.

“A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead often not recognizing fully what they were doing—was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition is correct, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us.”

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41954317)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: confused den

link plz

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183785)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: useless digit ratio

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183802)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 11:14 PM
Author: mint office

"construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained"

move to the sticks and make good with everyone you can.

sounds good to me.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43258556)



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Date: March 14th, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#47493724)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:14 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957356)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: big trump supporter hominid



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957366)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: crystalline irradiated double fault



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957369)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:18 PM
Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)

*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957375)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:26 PM
Author: supple really tough guy resort

this is a second Renaissance

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957423)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:28 PM
Author: Navy arousing box office

just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory tower reading classical bullshit and seeing vandals and visigoths everywhere when he ventures outside the campus. charles taylor is tcr communitarian

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957439)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:30 PM
Author: useless digit ratio

Harsh but fair

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957810)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: heady crotch



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42335600)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: marvelous twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42336156)



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:52 PM
Author: heady crotch



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#46393680)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:40 PM
Author: Cerebral menage

After Virtue is 180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957508)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: Seedy odious pozpig sandwich

he is 180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957816)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:34 PM
Author: useless digit ratio

That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs really drove home the point.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957825)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: Seedy odious pozpig sandwich

link?

what books of his have you read?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957902)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: useless digit ratio

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

https://youtu.be/7_ssRpso9e8?t=2626

This little snippet really drives it home though and makes the leap from seemingly magical tech to us being in a full fledge culture extinction.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41958239)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:44 PM
Author: twinkling location preventive strike

The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957873)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:46 PM
Author: useless digit ratio

Hard to make a distinction by the end.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957881)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:37 PM
Author: Vibrant sticky theater travel guidebook

only of you're a drunk Roman

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41958115)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:38 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41963755)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:39 PM
Author: Metaphysics Is solved

Lol @ premils

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41963758)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41979325)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: Seedy odious pozpig sandwich



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41979396)



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Date: March 2nd, 2021 12:19 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42034897)



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Date: March 18th, 2021 12:02 AM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42123274)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183777)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:27 PM
Author: Geriatric Flickering Crackhouse

quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient history...it's not the same

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183780)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: confused den

It is always dangerous to draw too precise parallels between one historical period and another; and among the most misleading of such parallels are those which have been drawn between our own age in Europe and North America and the epoch in which the Roman empire declined into the Dark Ages. Nonetheless certain parallels there are. A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead–often not recognizing fully what they were doing–was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us. And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time, however, the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43308041)



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Date: April 14th, 2021 10:16 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42282143)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:15 AM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42335581)



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Date: April 30th, 2021 7:19 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42379335)



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Date: October 1st, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43206172)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:42 AM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235648)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:48 AM
Author: comical canary partner

even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empire now have to admit that there is, by any description, no shared purpose. all the "good" things that can happen these days are things that would benefit you or your family. Get comparatively rich, get a better job, etc. No one even considers benefits to the community or "America". And sure as shit no one will accept personal detriment for America's improvement.

This has to be a clear sign that it's over. Im reminded of those videos of Army doods all saying "lol fuck the Army, my recruiter lied, this sucks", rating it as they would a job or college. Imagine asking enlisted men to consider their lives as contributing to America's glory

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235671)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:53 AM
Author: passionate mahogany theater stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235690)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: comical canary partner

i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude got pulled out of line. "are you dominican?" they asked him

The dude got all worked up, "me?! Dominican as fuck! Pure blood. Dominican to my core!" etc

Tried to imagine someone being so insulted and prideful about being american, lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235780)



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:12 PM
Author: confused den

dominicans are unironically natsoc

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#48015989)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:29 AM
Author: useless digit ratio

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSdnESSU-WRTBliI5nWkh_dlW_H3tOaxC

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235846)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43258178)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:45 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43308017)



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Date: March 3rd, 2022 7:03 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:32 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: pink market chad



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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:47 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



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Date: April 25th, 2022 1:27 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



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Date: June 3rd, 2023 6:48 PM
Author: sooty base



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:03 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:30 PM
Author: Honey-headed death wish station

every age deals with this and it's the MONASTIC communities who carry the flame when the wheels come off.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#46393785)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 8:33 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: walnut razzle site



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



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Date: July 9th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: useless digit ratio



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Date: October 21st, 2026 1:49 PM
Author: useless digit ratio



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